Numinous

You are assuming Japanese people act like US people. They are by average much more nationalistic than the US and normally the authors/editors behind pieces of media make decisions based on the Japanese market/fanbase alone, not even acknowledging a worldwide market/fanbase. Heck, many franchises with a good chunk of worldwide following have rushed their endings because they were doing poorly.

Furthermore, the cash cow goalpost of the manga media now is One Piece, which racks up 100~150 million per year on Japan ALONE and outsold Dragonball years ago (and let's not even talk about the absolute batshit insanity around One Piece that has taken Japan by assault). That's what mangakas and manga magazines are after now, and even some have emulated aspects of One Piece to try to steal some thunder (Kishimoto included, with the failure of a humor he has been coming up with since the Armadillo Dick incident). I'd even dare to say most of them have no idea One Piece lacks the punch it has in Japan outside of it borders.

So I'd only find the claim of your friend at least veritable if it was a comic book author from the US/Europe who would want to buy Dragonball and make it a cash cow outside of Japan. Or a mangaka/magazine on the brink of bankruptcy and desperate for a last stand.

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jekyl_hyde

Not disagreeing with you one bit. But it's been proven that if a studio/publisher wants to make money, they do it outside of Japan. That's why I'm not including One Piece with Bleach, Naruto, and Dragonball. One Piece basically sucks outside of Japan compared to those three. It arguably has more die-hard fans, but definitely not as many casual fans. Also, if you take into account inflation, considering what Dragonball was pulling in over 10 years ago compared to today... all it is going to take is a decent storyline and someone will try to push it.

Remember Dragonball: Evolution... a promising development with potential that was brutally murdered creatively and acting-wise.... It's happened once already.

Numinous

The figures you posted earlier already take inflation into account.

The hacks behind DB:E only paid the image rights as many doujinshi out there did too, they did NOT buy the rights of Dragonball like your friend claimed someone was trying to do. There's a world of difference there.

Also, shouldn't DB:E be evidence enough that the transition is more probable to fail and make no decent cash than the contrary?

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jekyl_hyde

Actually, those weren't... they were bottom line figures from what I remember reading from a convention by Toyota in Mississippi.

I agree with you... it was a complete failure. With that said, it made $$$$. That's why I said $$$$ talks and bullsh!t walks. It's an appropriate phrase for this situation. Remember, you have to think of casual fans, not diehards.

Numinous

Okay, although the difference is not that big from the numbers I know about.

No, it didn't. It barely recovered the money that was spent on that travesty. I'll be damned if that's considered making the dollar.

And don't underestimate the casual fans. Again, DB:E is proof that they're not the "anything eaters" people paint them to be (although some still are).

In summary, I'm not saying that's impossible for a Dragonball full-front revival in this day and age, but it's not as easy to pull as you seem to think. A lot of tact and sense of timing is crucial, along with needing the right tools to even attempt it.

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jekyl_hyde

Inflation has at least doubled in the U.S. since 9/11/2001. I remember when the first Dragonball Z Budokai PS1 game cost a measly $29.99 brand new. The new Budokai game is expected to be released @ $59.99 in the U.S. market, with many gaming experts predicting the new gen console games to be an extra $10-$20 brand new.

Depending on who your source is, the figures thrown out about how much it cost to make the movie ranged from $30-$100 Million. I do agree that no producer/studio is going to say that it had to have a higher budget when the movie grossed such a small amount, but at the theater, the movie grossed over $57 Million. That's not including DVD sales, blu-ray sales, and rental rights. The shitty movie made money. Imagine what they will be able to do without the limitations of reality in a manga.

I bolded that, because I do honestly agree with the vast majority of your statements in regard to this subject. And like I said, some of the info I have isn't concrete, and could be (probably is) speculation, but from what I've been told, there are several top people in the publishing world looking to possibly take on this... venture if Toriyama won't. I'm not saying it will make millions, but remember, Viz Media did try a spin-off graphic novel geared towards kids of the DB:Evolution movie.

ask me anything

The price of those games has little to do to inflation. There are several government websites you can check to find out the rate of inflation. Since 2001 it's gone up by ~30%.

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NeoKakarott023

Plus PS1 technology is going to be worlds cheaper than current PS3/PS4/XBox 360 + the newer version coming out. All new games cost that much, its a travesty that pisses me off. Thats why i generally wait for it used unless I love tha game. Hell never played on a PS3, about to get the PS4 when i comes out. Also the newer XBOX will have the Connect Module integrated supposedly.

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apparently this is it.

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Vengeance

So basically SSJ God mode is what was the original concept of SSJ from before it was officially introduced in the manga?



PS: Yes SSJ originally came from the DBZ movies first appearing in Lord Slug(Or Super Saiyan Son Goku for Japanese title) lmao.

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Screenshot from Shingeki no Kyojin.

Check out this awesome manga called Magi.

killerrabbit9

Well I guess the carried over the red theme from SS4 but without the body hair. Also resembles Evil Goku from few fanimations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01hdeGnn4Q4

Well except for the clothes

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One Piece: The manga you wait 600 chapters to start reading.

Dagoro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0sCC2qh1Rfk

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NeoKakarott023

Hot good to see the Z Fighters again, even though being owned with chopsticks should be disrespectful to Tenchinhan, but hell DBZ is one of the few mangas where if you're power level ain't adequate, chances are you will die. Thank god for Dragonballs they say every episode, and movie.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag0wHaTQYqY

New movie clip.

How much of a boost will this new mode be ? SSJ3 got owned with absurd ease.

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

Your not kidding. Hope Goku's new level will not be tacky like poor Stark's ended up. Cannot wait to see this movie, love that new DBZ is still being made. Naruto and bleach were always just to fill the void DBZ left so this is wonderful.

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