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Old 08-23-2013, 04:34 PM   #16261
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

Fuck all of you. Remember reactions when Ledger was cast as the Joker? Afleck will work as Batman. And I'm on my phone and drinking so can't care if I spelled their names correctly.
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And you did. Hooray for drunk writing.
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Fuck all of you. Remember reactions when Ledger was cast as the Joker? Afleck will work as Batman. And I'm on my phone and drinking so can't care if I spelled their names correctly.
I never said a "bad" thing about Ledger being the Joker. I actually loved it from the beginning. He was great in that series on Fox, way back... can't remember the name, but it was around the 15-1600's... had druids and early Christians... really great show that was cancelled way too early. That and he made 10 Things I Hate About You watchable.

Seriously, has Aflac ever made anything watchable? Everything I've watched him in, he's actually made it worse than it actually should have been.
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

Ben could probably be better as Batman than Jamie Foxx as Electro.

I mean come on...
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Jamie seems like he would make a pretty awesome Electro, I'm quite looking forward to it.
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Seriously, has Aflac ever made anything watchable? Everything I've watched him in, he's actually made it worse than it actually should have been.
Given that your definition is watchable, not also good (which is a fine term for superhero movies because they rely on lore and action more than acting):

Good Will Hunting
Dazed and Confused
Dogma
Mallrats
Chasing Amy
Sum of All Fears
and hell, he didn't put a dent in Shakespeare in Love.

I haven't seen Argo or The Town, but generally positive vibes around those movies. He also is a decent screenwriter and director. He's bringing a bit more pedigree than some other moops who've played Batman.

Arguably, as well, movies like Daredevil, Reindeer Games and Pearl Harbor were just bad movies that no one could have salvaged.

I'm warming up to Ben Affleck as Batman. I think what sticks with me is just the age. With the relaunch of Superman, I would have preferred a younger Batman, given that it will be a relaunch for him as well - Nolan's effort is done. But, here we are. (Also been reminded of the furor over Michael Keaton cast as Batman. He was basically a romantic comedian known for such hits as Mr Mom. And well, that worked out beautifully.)

And be honest, the most important thing to Batman is the chin. He's got the chin. It is a fine chin.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:03 PM   #16268
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Given that your definition is watchable, not also good (which is a fine term for superhero movies because they rely on lore and action more than acting):

Good Will Hunting
Dazed and Confused
Dogma
Mallrats
Chasing Amy
Sum of All Fears
and hell, he didn't put a dent in Shakespeare in Love.

I haven't seen Argo or The Town, but generally positive vibes around those movies. He also is a decent screenwriter and director. He's bringing a bit more pedigree than some other moops who've played Batman.

Arguably, as well, movies like Daredevil, Reindeer Games and Pearl Harbor were just bad movies that no one could have salvaged.

I'm warming up to Ben Affleck as Batman. I think what sticks with me is just the age. With the relaunch of Superman, I would have preferred a younger Batman, given that it will be a relaunch for him as well - Nolan's effort is done. But, here we are. (Also been reminded of the furor over Michael Keaton cast as Batman. He was basically a romantic comedian known for such hits as Mr Mom. And well, that worked out beautifully.)

And be honest, the most important thing to Batman is the chin. He's got the chin. It is a fine chin.
I completely disagree with you. Robin Williams made Good Will Hunting watchable. Haven't seen Mallrats, Dazed and Confused, nor Chasing Amy (completely all the way through). Dogma, just a terrible movie all around, except for Jay and Silent Bob. And Sum of all Fears, you can pick from the many wise-cracks about that movie and insert it here.

And Batman isn't about the chin. What separates the successful Batmans from the unsuccessful ones is the deep voice for Batman. Keaton, Bale, and Conroy were able to do this. Kilmer and Clooney were not. Do you seriously think that high-pitched, squeaker of voice Alfac has can register at least a full octave lower? Because I don't.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:05 PM   #16269
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

Am not saying that Ben is a bad actor, obviously am not a fan but i don't hate him either. All am saying is that his a terrible choice.

Probably am being emotional about this and here is why; I didn't like the latest Batman movie series, i did not like anything in those inter 3 movies except for Heath ledger's acting as the Joker, So ever since Bale's were done i was looking forward for a new better Batman and that chance was announced in the new batman & superman movie.

This Superman & Batman cinimatic teamup was long awaited by the entier fandom, And for those who also didn't like Christian Bale as batman..we were hoping for a better Batman choice to play the role and take it to the future next Batman movie series as well. Ben Afleck is in no shape or form to fit that role..

I mean lets be fair, obviously the dark knight is gonna have a more sophisticated role in the upcoming movie other than a manly chin sticking out of a mask or growling like a goddamn mountine gorilla to cover the lack of it. it needs someone with the quality and class to be the multimillionaire smug by day and the goddamn incarnation of manliness and justice by night.

Plus there is going to be alot of (how to put this?) chemistry and interaction between the two poles of DC's superheros, that is the main attraction of the movie..not the usual fight against the villain, it's the Batman/superman relationship. They teamup and work together but they have their differences. They have a mutal relation of respect and mistrust..probably stronger from Batman's side with the mistrust part therefore a toptier acting skills is required here and i simply can not see Ben Afleck fit for that, I've never even seen him play anything even remotely close to how sophisticated this role is and i doubt that he'll pull it off to my heart's content.

To people playing the heath ledger card, i'll say because it worked once doesn't mean at all that it will work every damn time. I have a right to freak here. and just for the record, when this movie turn out to be a disappointment i hope people wont hang it on the directing like they did with the daredevil or for whatever else reason other than Ben Afleck not fitting in a superhero's suit..let alone the goddamn Batman's.
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No Batman film will ever be as good as the Adam West movie, or as bad as Dark Knight Rises.
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

Ahhh, I see. You wanted movies that Ben Affleck made watchable above anyone else in the movie? Well, shit. We could have this argument for days (and quite frankly, the interplay between Damon and Affleck is the only reason to watch Dogma. It's pretty great. They also had the best scene in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, which was horrible in every sense). I pretty much listed watchable moves with Ben Affleck, meaning he didn't wreck them.

Which comes down to another point - the acting required for Batman and Superman is minimal. They are carried by special effects, dialogue and, most importantly, the villains. They are good guys who save the day. For all our love of Batman, his story is pretty cut and dry and it is the fact that he has awesome villains that raises his appeal. Why was the Dark Knight one of the best Batman films? Heath Ledger.

But hey, if you think Ben can't lower his voice to sound serious and menacing and THAT will be what ruins a Superman Movie (Remember, this is a Superman Movie. They all pretty well suck), good luck to you, sir. I would direct you to the best Batman of all time, Kevin Conroy, and note he didn't need to do a lot in the terms of voice alteration to make his Batman believable and distinct from Bruce Wayne. Surely not as far as Bale went.
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But hey, if you think Ben can't lower his voice to sound serious and menacing and THAT will be what ruins a Superman Movie (Remember, this is a Superman Movie. They all pretty well suck), good luck to you, sir. I would direct you to the best Batman of all time, Kevin Conroy, and note he didn't need to do a lot in the terms of voice alteration to make his Batman believable and distinct from Bruce Wayne. Surely not as far as Bale went.
This is where you're wrong, no one said that, it's like saying that the avengers is an Ironman movie. Batman vs super man is going to be a separated series, it's not a part of the man of steel series thus Batman is going to stand as an equal with superman not as a major sidekick, therefor he should be properly portrayed by a better fitting actor. Jon Hamm and Michael Fassbender would be on the top of my alt list.
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Ahhh, I see. You wanted movies that Ben Affleck made watchable above anyone else in the movie? Well, shit. We could have this argument for days (and quite frankly, the interplay between Damon and Affleck is the only reason to watch Dogma. It's pretty great. They also had the best scene in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, which was horrible in every sense). I pretty much listed watchable moves with Ben Affleck, meaning he didn't wreck them.
You say poe-tay-toe, I say pah-tah-tah. You have your opinion, and I have mine. But to clarify, mine is shared by a bigger group of people.

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Which comes down to another point - the acting required for Batman and Superman is minimal. They are carried by special effects, dialogue and, most importantly, the villains. They are good guys who save the day. For all our love of Batman, his story is pretty cut and dry and it is the fact that he has awesome villains that raises his appeal. Why was the Dark Knight one of the best Batman films? Heath Ledger.
No one is going to argue with you about Ledger... only an idiot would. But worldwide numbers differ with you on the success of Nolan and Bale's success in that triology. Money doesn't lie.

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But hey, if you think Ben can't lower his voice to sound serious and menacing and THAT will be what ruins a Superman Movie (Remember, this is a Superman Movie. They all pretty well suck), good luck to you, sir. I would direct you to the best Batman of all time, Kevin Conroy, and note he didn't need to do a lot in the terms of voice alteration to make his Batman believable and distinct from Bruce Wayne. Surely not as far as Bale went.
Actually, Conroy did alter his voice between the two characters. If you listen to clips, the voice he used for Bruce Wayne is a bit more light and airy, if you will. The voice he uses for Batman is a bit lower and has more grit and gruff.

Darth-Nero is right. This just isn't a Superman movie. It's supposed to be the lead-in movie to other movies that will bring about The Justice League. Marvel did the same thing with IM and Robert Downey, Jr.

Can you honestly see Ben "Aflac" being the Batman for the Justice League movie? Don't be argumentative. Be brutally honest with yourself. It would have been a nice homage of Warner to pay tribute to Nolan by having Gordon-Levitt play Batman; but I agree with D-N, Hamm seems to be a better choice for Batman than both Gordon-Levitt and Aflac. Liam McIntyre would be a good choice as well.
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Re: The Longest Thread Ever v28

I was going to respond but apparently I have to brutally honest with myself about movies. Brutally. Like, strip me down and make a base judgement on the core of my being honest whether or not I like the outcome... and... yes. Hollywood is a stupid money, popularity game. Yes, I can see Ben Affleck being Batman. Which is really all this is, our opinions be damned.

Whether or not he's good will actually have to wait until the movie. A lot of your perfered choices would be the exact same. But hey, hate is easy.

However, the point on Conroy was that there was far more relation between the voices. yes, different, but you could tell they were similar. A far cry from the whatever Bale did. Yell hoarsely, mostly.
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