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Old 09-07-2013, 04:58 PM   #10516
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

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Like trying to convince a pokemon to say anything other then it's name. And in your case, Asssosore...
Meowth says hi, dumbass.

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Common sense eludes you.
I think you're confused here.

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: If one can heal without the use of hand seals, which are the willing activation of that healing. Then, the only thing left that could possibly be happening is that the healing is AUTOMATIC your poor delusional little fellow
No. It means that it doesn't require hand seals. Tsunade has shown this with her Byakugo, which Madara compared to Hashirama's ability to heal without hand signs. It doesn't mean that it's an automatic thing. That was clearly shown by Hashirama being willing to kill himself with seppuku.

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I without a doubt proved using Mnaga panels and FEATS that hashirama ONLY has the ability to automatically heal small wounds, cuts, bruises, ect. Which is why he was in such bad shape after the madara fight, but still had plenty enough chakra to control the buddha, to control the Kyuubi and bring them both back to Konoha, yet could not heal those wounds.
Um...wat? Hashirama was just as exhausted when he finished off Madara. As seen by him falling to his knee after he stabbed Madara. The buddha/kyuubi/everything else you said wasn't even in the picture.

And, again, the manga has flat out stated that Hashirama is the strongest of them all, even Madara. Aside from Obito currently. Minato wouldn't be able to do shit to him, even with all of his speed. You have to understand, Tobirama, the guy that Minato took FTG from, was Hashirama's brother. You don't think he would've figured out counters to S/T techs?
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:50 PM   #10517
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

[QUOTE=kael03;2137988] Lol, you and common sense... That will be the day..


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No. It means that it doesn't require hand seals. Tsunade has shown this with her Byakugo, which Madara compared to Hashirama's ability to heal without hand signs. It doesn't mean that it's an automatic thing. That was clearly shown by Hashirama being willing to kill himself with seppuku.
Your drawing the conclusion that regeneration without the use of hand signs is not AUTOMATIC because hashirama can be killed by a Kunai is so completely flawed it is ridiculous...
How does that cme off as valid much less sound reasoning?

All your doing is trying to alter the meaning of "regeneration without the use of hand signs" as something other then what it could ONLY be, AUTOMATIC regeneration.

And the FACT that Obito, who has a hashirama clone body was able to AUTOMATICALLY heal his arm wounds shown here: But I guess you ignored that, right...

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Um...wat? Hashirama was just as exhausted when he finished off Madara. As seen by him falling to his knee after he stabbed Madara. The buddha/kyuubi/everything else you said wasn't even in the picture.
Proof that Hashirama dropped to one knee from exhaustion? If you look at hashirama's eyes, it looks like he is very emotional after having to actually KILL his friend meaning he did not drop form exhaustion Because he clearly had enough power to control the buddha to bring the Kyuubi back to Konoha which was far away so he was definitely not out of chakra.

So your premise does not fit what the manga shows.

LMAO, Madara was just hyping hashirama while Kabuto contradicted himself saying hashirama>Madara despite the FACT Kabuto admitted he did not know what madara is actually capable of in his prime... And that is you best evidence... contradicting HYPE Vs Minato and his clone's FEAT of brushing off the attack of the shinobi that owned tobirama so easily, was confirmed stronger then hashirama too... All while busy focusing on his new jutsu too lol.

But that means nothing for some reason..

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Aside from Obito currently. Minato wouldn't be able to do shit to him, even with all of his speed. You have to understand, Tobirama, the guy that Minato took FTG from, was Hashirama's brother. You don't think he would've figured out counters to S/T techs?
1). AGAIN, MINATO EASILY BRUSHED OFF THE ATTACK OF V1 JUUBITO WHO IS CONFIRMED STRONGER THEN HASHIRAM AND OWNED TOBIRAMA IN AN INSTANT EASILY. ALL WHILE BUSY FOCUSING ON HIS NEW JUTSU, SHOWN HERE:
(Minato and his clones hands are up with the hand sign for "focus" beucase they are busy preparing to use the new jutsu and yet still tracked, the brushed off V1 Juubito speed spin kick)


2). Ninjutsu will not work on Juubito thus hashirama is boned and his SM jutsu can be sealed with prea paths power, but Physical attacks work on Juubito. ANd since minato's attacks are so fast that Obito cannot even REACT and Juubito cannot grow a head back or regenerate organs. Minato could actually land a Killing blow.

How can you guys not understand how effective super raw speed so fast the enemy cannot touch you or react to defend against your attacks...
Once Minato tags you, you are done... that much is common knowledge...

3). Minato's Hirashin>>Tobirama's. You really think that hashirama can counter Hirashin of 3 different levels just because his brother could use a much less effective version of mInato's level 1?
Where is the logic in that statement?

Speed is the most effective ability when it comes to striking/taijutsu/ninjutsu, not power/strength. Thus why Minato is top tier and needs to be holding back with sympathy and guilt along with a failed Kunai defense against the strongest shinobi since the rikudou sage himself just to touch him.

And yet you think hashirama will possibly counter Minato's time space jutsu and touch him while not being touched by Minato.... I mean come on, how can you underestimate Minato so much?

Remeber perfect cell Vs super trunks? Super trunks far surpassed cell in power and strength, However, he was way to slow to hit cell while being able to defend against cells attacks thus lost.
Simply because no matter how POWERFUL/STRONG you are. If you cannot CATCH your Enemy, all you power is no more effective then a squit gun if it cannot hit anything.
And if You cannot possibly TRACK/REACT to your enemies attacks, then how can you possibly stop him from owning you at will...
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:37 PM   #10518
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Ok, seriously, when in the flying fuck did "hiraishin level 3" ever get mentioned in the manga? Post the exact page where it said he can do beyond teleporting to a still flying kunai.
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:24 PM   #10519
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

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Ok, seriously, when in the flying fuck did "hiraishin level 3" ever get mentioned in the manga? Post the exact page where it said he can do beyond teleporting to a still flying kunai.
Hiraishin Level 1:
Teleporting to a stationary Kunai... Usually the ones he throws, or when he tags a person directly. However, while tobirama can ONLY teleport one thing away at a time and with direct contact. Minato can teleport an entire army of people at once and doe snot need direct contact. Just indirect as shown when he was able to teleport away the Kyuubi and his Bijuudama by touching gamabunta, who was touching the kyuubi, who was touching the Bijuudama...[IMG][/IMG]

And was able to teleport the bijuudama to a different location then where he and the Kyuubi were. Meaning he has the ability to teleport two different things to two different locations at once, with indirect contact too...

SHown here:


Hriashin Level 2:
Teleporting to a MOVING Kunai... shown against MS Obito during their fight 17 years ago.


Hiraishin Level 3: Using the Kunai seal to create a time space barrier to draw things in just like Kakashi's Kamui. However, he can teleport whatever he draws into his time space barrier to ANY seal/tag. Thus, Minato can teleport things/people without even having to place a tag on them using level 3 time space barrier..
ANd best of all, Minato can use his t/s barrier to draw in attacks form the enemy or his own/summons/allies and then teleport them back onto the enemy instantly if they are already tagged or by using level 2 by throwing a kunai seal directly to them to teleport the attack onto the enemy.
SHown here against the Kyuubi:


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ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT TOBIRAMA'S HIRAISHIN IS JUST AS GOOD AS MINATO'S NEEDS A CAT-SCAN

Anyways...
It's common sense... Since when does it have to be mentioned in the manga when the time space hiraishin is a whole level above level 2, thus must be a level 3.
You should know that drawing a conclusion on the absence of a statement is an argument form silence fallacy and you do not want to go there do ya...
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:31 PM   #10520
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

That's not Hiraishin. Hiraishin is just him warping to a kunai/seal. What he used on the kyuubi was a space/time barrier, akin to a wormhole. It even says so on the bottom of the page you're claiming is your evidence "That was a space/time BARRIER technique". Hiraishin is more akin to reverse summoning than a barrier.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:08 PM   #10521
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

What about Madara vs Naruto/Sasuke? I so called it out, years ago, when saying those two were going to fight together. Yeah he may still not be a fan of Konoha but he had his chance, talked/listened to the Hokages. Now I'm sure he's ready to f*ck him up.
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