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Old 09-11-2013, 07:32 AM   #76
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Read the Bible and some Norse mythology. Oda didn't come up with this idea nor did Kishi.

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But he got hella nerfed the past 2 chapters.
I disagree with this. He's still stupidly powerful. Kishi just isn't having him use it. Hell, he could handle two of the bombs if he wanted to, using his FTG barrier to teleport one into the other.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:23 AM   #77
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Oh hell no. Fuck no are kidding me? We wait for a damn flower a tall tentacle hentai looking flower. I've lost all hope now.
The "God Tree" and it's fruit forbidden to eat is from Adam and Eve. It was stated before years ago (forgot which site though) that Naruto is loosely based on Revelations some with Japanese mythology mixed in.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:27 AM   #78
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It will not kill off the Kyuubi.....Kurama will simply regenerate over time and be reborn.
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Yeh I know it would be reborn which is why I added that we'll meet again someday bit.

But the kyuubi can be killed or dispersed in the short term until it comes back, which is what I meant.

I agree about the naruto dying bit, but since the manga has always been so ott on his desire of being hokage, I can't see that happening until he is.

What I think is likely though is sasuke or naruto giving their lives up for the other (especially after that yondaime and Madarra flashback).
One of them gives up their life so the other can protect their dreams.
It shits on Neji's sacrifice but hey that would be kishi
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:48 AM   #79
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Yeh I know it would be reborn which is why I added that we'll meet again someday bit.

But the kyuubi can be killed or dispersed in the short term until it comes back, which is what I meant.

I agree about the naruto dying bit, but since the manga has always been so ott on his desire of being hokage, I can't see that happening until he is.

What I think is likely though is sasuke or naruto giving their lives up for the other (especially after that yondaime and Madarra flashback).
One of them gives up their life so the other can protect their dreams.
It shits on Neji's sacrifice but hey that would be kishi
I personally don't think Masashi would kill off the sole star of the Manga but then again he did say the ending would shock all.

I think if it came to it though he might have both Naruto and Sasuke die in battle against foes.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:05 AM   #80
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Was the Sage's mother a loudmouth too? I'm betting on it.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:20 AM   #81
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I personally don't think Masashi would kill off the sole star of the Manga but then again he did say the ending would shock all.

I think if it came to it though he might have both Naruto and Sasuke die in battle against foes.
Yeh, I know what you're saying, but it would tie in with his whole bonds theme.

For example;

Naruto dying scenario:

Naruto sacrifices for sasuke, requesting ( or demanding or even appointing himself if he has become the Kage by that time) that sasuke be the next hokage.
His feelings and sacrifice for sasuke persuade the leaf to let him back in once again. He becomes the Kage and protects the leaf as per narutos request (and his own desire to protect it) which contrasts what happened between hashi and Madarra.

Sasuke dying scene:
This is straightforward really, sasuke sacrifices to save naruto to protect that bond of friendship that has been re ignited and also because of his desire to protect the leaf now. He tells naruto to protect and nurture the dreams that they now share Of a new world etc etc. naruto becomes hokage and sasuke is revered as a ninja who died for the leaf. Again in contrast to hashi and Madarra.


How I'd see either of these scenes happening?
Aftr Tobi and Madarra are both defeated, whoever is the final boss would throw one final attack as they died (a bit like Danzou) which would require one of them to save the other.
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I personally don't think Masashi would kill off the sole star of the Manga but then again he did say the ending would shock all.

I think if it came to it though he might have both Naruto and Sasuke die in battle against foes.

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

That means that useless piece of flesh, Sakura, will become Hokage! I'm going to be one pissed off mofo if that comes to fruition.
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NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

That means that useless piece of flesh, Sakura, will become Hokage! I'm going to be one pissed off mofo if that comes to fruition.
haha legit fear. But I think if Naruto and SauceKe die, shikamaru would become Hokage,
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:38 AM   #84
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I know they die if chakra reaches zero, but the point I'm trying to make is how did they live without chakra before the received it from the juubi. They must have had some natural chakra to live on.
Not necessarily, you have to see the chakra problem in an evolutionary point of view: our ancestors lived without things that we couldn't possibly live without. For example, humans can't live without spines but we have ancestors without spines that lived normally.

In this case, it's perfectly possible for humans from Kaguya's time to not have any chakra at all, then adapt to it and, from generations upon generations, the adaptation was so specific that humans no longer could live without chakra (being the only downside Kishimoto speeding up the adaptation process, but wouldn't be the first time he did such)

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Am I the only one who finds it funny that the Juubi is a plant and the Bijuu are animals? I mean how the holy hell did that happen?.....fuck biology.
Maybe I'm overestimating Kishimoto's pool of reference, but it could be a reference to Plato and Aristotle's Great Chain of Being, which has a segment that goes plants-->beasts-->humans (as in, the plant Juubi spawned the Tailed Beasts that are sealed in human Jinchuuriki).

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The "God Tree" and it's fruit forbidden to eat is from Adam and Eve. It was stated before years ago (forgot which site though) that Naruto is loosely based on Revelations some with Japanese mythology mixed in.
Excuse me, but not only I never came across such statement, Naruto has absolutely nothing to do with the Book of Revelations.

And the God Tree isn't from Adam and Eve, that'd be the Tree of Knowledge. The whole Juubi and Hagoromo tale is a mix between Genesis and Poetic Edda.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:50 AM   #85
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Maybe I'm overestimating Kishimoto's pool of reference, but it could be a reference to Plato and Aristotle's Great Chain of Being, which has a segment that goes plants-->beasts-->humans (as in, the plant Juubi spawned the Tailed Beasts that are sealed in human Jinchuuriki).
I think we've all learned not to give Kishi too much credit.

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I have... but it was on fan pages. Nothing official.

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Naruto has absolutely nothing to do with the Book of Revelations. And the God Tree isn't from Adam and Eve, that'd be the Tree of Knowledge. The whole Juubi and Hagoromo tale is a mix between Genesis and Poetic Edda.
If we're going to harp on technicalities, it's the book of Revelation. No "s".
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I have... but it was on fan pages. Nothing official.
Yeah, most probably fake as hell. I still remember the times when they said the Hachibi's Jinchuuriki was going to be Orochimaru due to the Orochi no Yamato myth and it came out to be a crappy rapper.

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Oh, sorry, my mistake. But still, nothing to do with Naruto.
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Yeah, most probably fake as hell. I still remember the times when they said the Hachibi's Jinchuuriki was going to be Orochimaru due to the Orochi no Yamato myth and it came out to be a crappy rapper.
Kishi's pathetic attempt at trying to show some street cred.

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:15 PM   #88
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The Obvious outcome of the manga will be naruto giving back all the chakra to the tree and do something like attune everyone back to nature so they rely on nature energy and not chakra, thus can survive without chakra...

I do not see naruto destroying the tree... It is likely connected to the earth and immortal like the Bijuu thus, it will be appeased, so naruto fixes kaguya's and the sage's mistake, the end...

And minato is still the stronger warrior becuase even without hcakra his physical speed/reflexes are so much above everyone esle's no one can compete with him physically.... hahaha...

ANyways, This way chakra is gone and the crazy level of power it gave people to make even greater war then before chakra will be gone and we can go back to killing each other on a normal level lol...
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I think I could have made this chapter (and the rest of the arc) way fucking better. If Kishi had any balls he would have had Naruto and Killer Bee killed by the tree. Then have the hokages get steam rolled, so madara can turn his attention to fighting Obito. During the epic showdown between the 2 of them, Sauce sneaks over to the tree, using his EMS to gain (partial) control of it to cast his own version of the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Then he finds out that the spirits of all the dead still reside inside the tree, including Naruto and Bee who haven't been completely assimilated because their bijuu are shielding them. The kyuubi being one one of the largest chunks of the juubi's chakra is (with the help of hachibi) trying to take over control of the beast from the inside, while The Sauce only having EMS and not a full Rinnegan, is struggling to take control himself, with neither side gaining much ground. At that point the tree (which should be a sentient being) decides to hear out arguments from the 2 of them to decide for itself which side it will choose.

The juubi then decides to give them both an impossible decision to test their resolve. Something along the lines of sacrificing 10000 people in return for letting everyone else go in peace.


See, a much better plot line.
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So, the Juubi is like the tree in the Tree of Might DBZ special. Though not entirely original based off a lot of other shit that's been done in books, anime, movies, mythology, but I'm not that disappointed with this chapter.
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