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Old 10-07-2013, 03:54 PM   #76
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KYF: Look at this poll that makes Naruto the most popular manga!

Reality: Same poll puts Naruto at #357 for best comic.

Cognitive dissonance for the win!
Hey dumb fuck, learn to READ!!! Naruto is TOP MANGA by POPULARITY, you know, the CLAIM I was making in the first place...

Meanwhile, One piece was put above naruto in top manga for...... NO FUCKING REASON LMFAOCROFL... Way to be above naruto for any other reason then POPULARITY LAMO...

WHo cares if more OP is used for door stops, paper weight or even pages to roll joints... The MORE POPULAR manga is NARUTO as I claimed so suck on it Loser...

Cognitive dissonance this numiprescious... The myanimelist confirmed that naruto>>>One piece in popularity...


Edit (since KTF did it too):

Myanimelist's list: Naruto most popular, rated #427 for best.

Look at that![/QUOTE]

Oh really becuase I copied and pasted and look what it say's proven on this website here so suck it!!!

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Top Manga by Popularityhttp://myanimelist.net/topmanga.php?...larity&limit=0
Next 30
1

Naruto add
? volumes,
108,430 members
2

Bleach add
? volumes,
97,517 members
3

Death Note add
12 volumes,
81,566 members
4

One Piece add
? volumes,
69,442 members
5

Fairy Tail add
? volumes,
68,869 members
6

Fullmetal Alchemist add
27 volumes,
61,134 members
7

D.Gray-man add
? volumes,
49,177 members
8

Fruits Basket add
23 volumes,
45,992 members
From anime news networkhttp://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...ings-manga.php

Top 10 Most Popular (Top 50)
# title rating nb. votes
1 Death Note (manga)
2 Naruto (manga)
3 Bleach (manga)
4 Fruits Basket (manga)
5 Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)
6 Love Hina (manga)
7 Berserk (manga)
8 Rurouni Kenshin (manga)
9 One Piece (manga)
10 Chobits (manga)

Top 10 Most Viewed (Top 50)
# title rating seen by
1 Naruto (manga)
2 Death Note (manga)
3 Bleach (manga)
4 Fruits Basket (manga)
5 Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)
6 Chobits (manga)
7 One Piece (manga)
8 Love Hina (manga)
9 Rurouni Kenshin (manga)
10 Inuyasha (manga)

Yea, keep making up your own numbers from "myanimelist" while I have proven the ACTUAL numbers showing that naruto is more popular then one piece as I first claimed...

And even animenewsnetwork supports the same idea as wel as most viewed too...

And what is this... Naruto is #1 in popularity at Mangareader as well... while one pieces of crap is like #6 below even bleach for crying out loud....
http://www.mangareader.net/popular

Even here in the essential mangas to read.... naruto is #3 way bove One piece that was not even in the top 8 LAMO...
http://manga.about.com/od/recommende...-Libraries.htm

Naruto beat OP for most popular of the year here at 45 for some reason while OP was not even listed...http://www.cuyahogafallslibrary.org/...lar-manga-year

and yet agains naruto is the most popular...http://www.citymanga.com/most-popular/

and yet again naruto wins easily... http://www.mangasky.com/manga-list/a.../most-popular/

Naruto even beat OP on amazons bets sellers...http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-B...gbs/books/4367

Good god and yet again naruto beat one piece...http://www.goodmanga.net/popular-manga

naruto wins again...http://www.killermovies.com/forums/a...in-the-us.html

I mean what more do you need guys... Yes OP sells better, but the anime/manga/news sites and their polls shows that naruto is indeed the most popular of the two...

So why argue it any longer?
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:05 PM   #77
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Re: Naruto 649 Discussion

All you proved is that One Piece is best seller. Meaning more people are willing to cash out on quality manga versus to read shit (Naruto) for free online. Money talks louder than low grade freebies.
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All you proved is that One Piece is best seller. Meaning more people are willing to cash out on quality manga versus to read shit (Naruto) for free online. Money talks louder than low grade freebies.
True besides I don't just run to mangas/anime's cause the masses are, no Pokémon, Avatar, Fairytale, and even others that some rave about for me... I'm a Wolf, no one will ever confuse me for a sheep.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:00 PM   #79
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All you proved is that One Piece is best seller. Meaning more people are willing to cash out on quality manga versus to read shit (Naruto) for free online. Money talks louder than low grade freebies.
Not only that, it's more money for the mangaka (and the publishers, of course), which means a bigger budget for research, art/writing improvement, etc, which a good mangaka should use to improve his/her manga.


Oh and KYF, you really didn't get what I said, did you? As much as you appeal to the popularity of Naruto, you won't ever be able to tell it's better than One Piece or any other manga for that matter. That's because popularity does NOT have a fixed correlation with quality, and many things that are rubbish are as popular as the good stuff and the contrary is also witnessed quite frequently.

So what if Naruto is popular, if it was actually good its quality ratings should be near its popularity ratings, right? But again and again Naruto falls flat in its face when it comes to ratings (and here are the links to the ratings because you either were too stupid, lazy or arrogant to fetch them up):

1) Anime News Networks: #1 in popularity, #357 in quality.

For curiosity's sake, here are the ratings of other manga in the top 100 that I remember being read by members of this forum:
  • #1: Berserk
  • #5: Vinland Saga
  • #7: Akira
  • #9: Fullmetal Alchemist
  • #10: Vagabond
  • #13: Death Note
  • #17: Hajime no Ippo
  • #29: Rurouni Kenshin
  • #76: One Piece
  • #79: Attack on Titan
  • #88: Hunter x Hunter
  • #92: Claymore
  • #96: Liar Game
2) My Anime List: #1 in Popularity, #428 in quality


And the same manga are where...?
  • #1: Berserk
  • #3: Fullmetal Alchemist
  • #6: One Piece
  • #13: Attack on Titan
  • #14: Death Note
  • #15: Vagabond
  • #17: Akira
  • #23: Rurouni Kenshin
  • #27: Vinland Saga
  • #35: Hajime no Ippo
  • #42: Liar Game
  • (Hunter x Hunter and Claymore are strangely missing)




Of course, you only linked things that only showed data about popularity while none on quality, so fantastic job at proving nothing there.


Oh and the sales ones either are cherry-picked as fuck (seriously, KYF, do you think the entire population of the Earth lives in Cuyahoga, Ohio? That'd be the only reasonable answer to link to a single library site where it lists One Piece as a graphic novel, so no shit it didn't appear in the teen manga list...) or work against you: if Naruto is better than One Piece because it has a volume selling better than One Piece's, than damn, Attack on Titan is a lot better than Naruto considering it has 8 volumes selling on the Top Twenty instead of just 1. And are you saying that Bleach is better than Naruto, considering it sold better than Naruto? Oh my, the revelations you got there!
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Re: Naruto 649 Discussion

I also agree that One Piece is better. Naruto was good but imo it pretty much started its steep fall downhill right after the battle with Naruto and Pain. One piece is much more consistent and balanced and the story doesn't seem as made up as it progresses. Just from a literary perspective one piece has much more character development and explores, in depth, far more themes that anyone can relate to than Naruto as well as creativity IMO. If any professional book reviewer, for example, were going to grade any Naruto arc after pain to almost any arc in One Piece, OP would always receive a better rating. Then again, I always grade a story according to the same criteria as book and movie reviewers so we almost always agree and complain about the same things. But not everyone grades according that criteria as KYF most likely does not.
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Lol at cherry picking sites that have Nardo as the most view and thinking it validates his claims.

Yo asshat, there are sites that have OP as number 1, sites that feature nothing but Korean comics and sites that focus only on Seinen. Like I said before, unless you can pull something out of your infinite bag of BS that can tally what every manga reader around the planet reads online your claims are retarded.
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OP is better than Naruto by eons, but if one doesn't dig the Pirate world I could understand not being drawn toward it. But the storylines betta IMHO, remember this is all fantasy, some people just get lazy, Kishi and Kubo moar than others, not an insult, just a fact, some people lose the love of they're manga and it just becomes work. Its apparent with Naruto, and especially Bleach.
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