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Old 10-16-2013, 09:07 AM   #16
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Has creativity really stretched this thin that Tobito had to wield an object in the form of DNA? I'm assuming the ultimate attack to kill Madara would be an energy blast in the shape of a gigantic heart.
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OT: I can't believe I didn't comment on Kishimoto pretty much shitting on the Rookies by making them mere extensions of Naruto. As if they weren't background props already...

I don't really see how they could be in the story at this point unless they learned some sort of sage mode. Only Senjutsu Chakra hurt Obito with the 10 tails armor so they can ether get a power up from naruto and kurama or go off and read a book cuz their attacks wont do a thing without the senjutsu upgrade naruto is passing their way.

Should be glad kishi got them involved it could be just naruto and sasuke fighting obito at this point cuz we all know the fight is pretty much out of their league at this point. They are pretty much Krillin at a Super-Sayian level fight, they might get lucky and get in a sucka punch but in the end they are worthless combat wise . Even the kage level ninja are out classed at this point so the only hope of them getting non-cheerleader roles in the story is for them to get a power up. Would you rather they just be on the sidelines shouting Go Naruto! or panels showing the inner thoughts of the various leaf females thinking to themselves how how handsome sasuke has become?
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The anime has been better than the manga, it has filled in some missing time, and plot holes. Actually created some too, lol. The War has been pretty good in Anime, but sometimes I've found myself saying... where in the fuck did THAT come from?
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Nope, not really. She lacks proper escapes and if you have a support that exploits that (Fiddlesticks, Thresh, Blitzcrank, Zyra, Lulu, Lee Sin, Janna, to name a few), she's toast. To be honest, it's the Trinity Force ADC's that are being OP and even with the nerfs to the item they're owning lanes hard.
She hasn't a real escape, but her abilities can help her escape though. She has that passive, the slow and the stun. And that slow hurts a lot man, pfff.

But yea Corki is pretty strong
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Should be glad kishi got them involved it could be just naruto and sasuke fighting obito at this point cuz we all know the fight is pretty much out of their league at this point. (...) Would you rather they just be on the sidelines shouting Go Naruto! or panels showing the inner thoughts of the various leaf females thinking to themselves how how handsome sasuke has become?
Two wrongs don't make a right. Kishimoto already failed with them by making them lag behind (when they weren't pretty stagnant, like Tenten, Rock Lee, Kiba and Shino), but isn't by painting Naruto over them that it'll somehow fix what is broken, by the contrary, only breaks those characters even further.

So yes, I would prefer them to be at the sidelines instead of being robbed of their characterization but what I actually would like even more that they actually were relevant to the power level of the fight itself to justify their inclusion.


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But yea Corki is pretty strong
Been against Jinx as a support, she's not that hard to catch up. Maybe it's a difference experience for other ADC's, but hey, I can only speak from experience. The only thing I know is that her Q is a bitch to lane against, the rest is standard stuff.

Yeah, Corki is pretty much the proof on how Trinity Force's rework made it too good, because nobody picked Corki before because his itemization was lackluster. Hell, even Poppy who nobody gave a crap about is popping up more and being the single most annoying champion in ARAM. Yes, more than Teemo, MUCH MORE.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Kishimoto already failed with them by making them lag behind (when they weren't pretty stagnant, like Tenten, Rock Lee, Kiba and Shino), but isn't by painting Naruto over them that it'll somehow fix what is broken, by the contrary, only breaks those characters even further.

So yes, I would prefer them to be at the sidelines instead of being robbed of their characterization but what I actually would like even more that they actually were relevant to the power level of the fight itself to justify their inclusion.


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Been against Jinx as a support, she's not that hard to catch up. Maybe it's a difference experience for other ADC's, but hey, I can only speak from experience. The only thing I know is that her Q is a bitch to lane against, the rest is standard stuff.

Yeah, Corki is pretty much the proof on how Trinity Force's rework made it too good, because nobody picked Corki before because his itemization was lackluster. Hell, even Poppy who nobody gave a crap about is popping up more and being the single most annoying champion in ARAM. Yes, more than Teemo, MUCH MORE.
hnnn yes i agree for the first paragraph word a word....... kichi just ticking box before manga end now.

make tenten relevance check
give rock lee nijutsu check
sasuke naruto fusion check


honestly this manga remind me off sonic heroes game for the final stage where knuckle and tail get random super sonic to............ kichi must be like "it not really make sence but i am do this anyway to fit for the main theme off this manga friendship and teamwork" same as sonic heroes

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In a dark room, a man is seen sitting at a drawing table with a single lamp burning, shining it's light on the man's artwork. He takes his cigarette out of his mouth, blows smoke into the air and sighs.

Man: Dammit. How am I going to do this? He only has nine f'n tails. If I keep her useless... I mean supporting the alliance by aiding Tsunade, I still have to do something with one more of the Konoha 12. Why the hell did I add Sai again?

The man takes a long drag on his cigarette, and holds the smoke in before blowing it out through his nostrils. He then grabs a piece of paper, scribbling names on it. He then begins tear the paper into pieces, dropping each one into an empty coffee mug. He shakes the mug around several times, then reaches in and withdraws a single piece of paper. He opens it and sighs.

Man: Well Neji, it's time for you to die. That is until I have you resurrected.

This is honestly how I believe that Kishi chose to kill off Neji.

Seriously, ok chapter, 2.5/5. It was nice to see Shino get some panel-time.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Kishimoto already failed with them by making them lag behind (when they weren't pretty stagnant, like Tenten, Rock Lee, Kiba and Shino), but isn't by painting Naruto over them that it'll somehow fix what is broken, by the contrary, only breaks those characters even further.

So yes, I would prefer them to be at the sidelines instead of being robbed of their characterization but what I actually would like even more that they actually were relevant to the power level of the fight itself to justify their inclusion.


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Been against Jinx as a support, she's not that hard to catch up. Maybe it's a difference experience for other ADC's, but hey, I can only speak from experience. The only thing I know is that her Q is a bitch to lane against, the rest is standard stuff.

Yeah, Corki is pretty much the proof on how Trinity Force's rework made it too good, because nobody picked Corki before because his itemization was lackluster. Hell, even Poppy who nobody gave a crap about is popping up more and being the single most annoying champion in ARAM. Yes, more than Teemo, MUCH MORE.
Worst champ in aram is nidalee
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WTF was wrong with this awesome chapter?

: sasuke awakens perfect susanoo and combined it with Bijuu SM naruto...

: Naruto adhered to itachi's wisdom of not trying to do everything yourself, but to rely on others no matter how powerful you become... Thus allowing for help from his teammates and not just clones..

: Finally got to see the sage's Sword....

: Kakashi finally noticed the Psychic LINK he has with Obito by having his eye and used that LINK to share his heart with him, to help fill the empty space left when he lost his Heart when he lost Rin and his faith in friendship, which caused his resolve to weaken, even seeing himself in naruto as the one who would be stopping him and thus he was defeated by an obviously weaker attack then his own...

The chapter was good... and you would have to be blind or just plain BIAS to think otherwise...
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Worst champ in aram is nidalee
Nidalee is a skill-check champion: only newbies and noobs won't build up early MR to mitigate the damage, because Nidalee will only get Void staff after she gets all the yummy AP items. The spears are a bit trickier because they depend on the Nidalee player's aim, but I can't count how many noobs I hit with the spears because they stayed still or even walked towards the spear aimed at someone else.

Now Poppy is excruciatingly annoying. Her whole shtick is gluing herself to a squishy and not. fucking. die. at. all.






On Topic: j_H: Kishimoto killed Neji for NaruHina to have a moment. Which I find even sadder than getting the shortest straw.

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Jesus, KYF, you really can't see all the crap of this chapter in both characterization and action? «Oh we got to see Hagoromo's sword!», that's such a fanboy lunacy. It's a fucking DNA strand taken completely out of context, specially considering it is named after a goddamn spear, not a sword, and its hype is plain illogical. Oh, it made Hagoromo create the very world that already existed, makes perfect sense, derp!
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Jinx and Lucian will see professional play in season four.

Jinx for the sake of a strong kill-lane on bot. Her AOE snare combined with an all-in support like Leona and Annie spells death for pretty much anyone who gets caught. Then lies the snowball effect of getting early kills combined with Jinx's natural pushing power(which ADC can push a lane/drop a turret faster than Jinx?). Her lack of an escape can be compensated by proper positioning and using her W and E to keep your enemies away from you. What she lacks is a piercing ability allowing champions like Caitlyn and Lucian to kite and harass her early game. But really the main reason why she'll see play is because she's a female version of the Joker(pure awesomeness) and Vi's sister. Vi as everyone should know is a fucking badass.

As for Lucian dude's like the love child of Ezreal and Misfortune in terms of his kit(A very dangerous champion). That and he has one of the coolest champions concepts to comeout in a while.


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On Topic: j_H: Kishimoto killed Neji for NaruHina to have a moment. Which I find even sadder than getting the shortest straw.
The precourse for my notion was that Kishi had storyline A done, got to this point, realized he needed to kill of someone, picked Neji, rewrote to storyline B, adding the NaruHina moment.

Seriously, best part of the chapter was having Sakura in a "supportive" role.

With that said, I have a newfound hope for the manga. We all know that Sasuke and Naruto are to be Madara and Hashirama v 2.0... so I'm hoping we're about to get a battle royale so to speak of those four, the old generation vs. the new generation.

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Accurate my ass... All you do is bitch about the manga no natter how good it is... Using nothing more then your bias against the manga coupled with your preconceived Idea that it sucks... Gee, I wonder why you think good chapters suck... Your dumb ass has programmed yourself to believe it...

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A fanboy lunacy... WTF!!! Finally getting to see the weapon of the sgae of six paths after so long is a fanboy Lunacy... Way to make no fucking sense at all by making a random claim...

Why is it a fanboy Lunacy?

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1). You assume it is a DNA strand just because that is what it looks similar too... Dumb ass, WHERE was it said to be in the shape of an actual DNA strand?

2). Who cares if it is named after a Spear, in this story it is a sword, but shaped to be either one... Apparently you do not know what an ADAPTATION is....

3). HOW is it's hype PLAIN Illogical? It is said to of created the world... But could not of possibly actually did that... thus, there is clearly a different meaning to the statement meaning you took that ambiguous statement LITERALLY like you do so many other things... So the ONLY illogical hype here is your ability to interpret something simple, accurately....
and it is a sword of the SOUL which is why when kakashi shared his soul with obito through their psychic LINK of the MS eye, the sword was broken becuase kakshi managed to share some of his soul of who obito was which broke his resolve to use Nunuboko to defeat sasuke, naruto and team....

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Buy some common sense you dunce... It clearly could not of created the actual world, but the NINJA world is another story... That is something it could have done yet your BIAS mind cannot think of such thing since it would mean that the statement made sense in a manga you have already made up your mind years ago, does not, thus conform ALL info to that belief which is why no matter what, no chapter will be good enough for the like of you...

And due to that, just fuck off and go read something else if your going to just read every chapter with the same preconceived notion that it is going to suck...
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: sasuke awakens perfect susanoo and combined it with Bijuu SM naruto...
Nuh-uh. NARUTO created the perfect sasanoo because it's his belief and bond with Sasuke that made it possible. Just like he was able to make all the other original nin's, rookie or otherwise (except Neji, he dead, and Sakura... lol?) into little super rasengan wielders. Sasuke's a passenger here, pal.

But, I didn't really hate this chapter. I'm thinking the DNA sword was a "looks cool" design rather than actually trying to be DNA.
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guys guys is it me or am i the only one who observed that naruto got just for a moment horns just like obito???look here at naruto http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/651/12 look down in the left corner and even hie eyes seem a bit wierd
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