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Old 11-08-2013, 02:56 AM   #61
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Orochimaru just seems like a plot device these days. How else would Kishi figure out a way to keep Madara busy? Orochimaru coming back and resummoning the sealed Kages was an asspull of an asspull in order to save Kishi's skin.
Personally....IMO I don't see his coming back as an ass pull. We just never understood the curse marks enough to know how easy it could be. The ass pull was the mask....If Kishi would of made finding the mask a little more difficult and actually throw hints as to what it could do throughout Part II..it would of made more sense to the readers. We all knew Anko was going to be used for something of great importance. We all knew since Kabuto stated Oro's chakra is within the curse marks....it was childsplay to deduce that Oro could possibly return. Having someone like Tsunade search for the mask while also Naruto searching for Sasuke would of been the ideal way of introducing the mask and it's importance to the Edo Tensei. Though Kishi decided to go the idiot route and have Oro find it in some abandoned shack.....Tsunade searching would of been perfect since she is a descendant like Naruto of the Uzumaki clan.

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/619/4

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/618/14

Going back...so Juugo already gave Sasuke some Sennin mode chakra...that chakra somehow forced the six Zetsus to come out of Sasuke's body. A little confused as to how Sage chakra would force out hashi's (weak-Zetsu) chakra? Maybe the chakra was too potent for Zetsu to control. We know it is difficult to absorb sennin chakra as we saw in the battle against Pain.

Also we keep forgetting Oro has half of the required material to awaken a body like the sages. He has Hashi's weaker body of Zetsu which was enough to strengthen and maintain control over Tobirama. All he needs is the dna of an Uchiha.

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Old 11-08-2013, 08:37 AM   #62
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I don't know what you guys are talking about???..So many people die in this manga

Please go back and count all the zetsu and edo's that were killed.

This manga kill count is 8000% more than any other manga.
You don't understand, I was speaking to the 'Good', Characters, that has a name, ain't just a face, and they're storyline intermingled with Naruto.

Kushina, Jiraiya, Rin, and Neji. Anybody else came back, and forth, between life and death as an Edo. All 4 Ex Kage, Edo, Itachi, Edo, Asuma, Edo, Tsunade's Ex, Edo. So IMHO those characters DIDN'T DIE, they're stories one way or another continued on. Truth be told, even the shinobi that were good or bad in the past, came back as well, no death, equates to a cluster fuck at the end where the best Kishi could come up with was a Tug of War. He didn't know what to do with all his turds at one time.

At the same time it eats opportunity for main characters like pac man, making many of them either lame, or not nearly valid since forever.
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Personally....IMO I don't see his coming back as an ass pull. We just never understood the curse marks enough to know how easy it could be. The ass pull was the mask....If Kishi would of made finding the mask a little more difficult and actually throw hints as to what it could do throughout Part II..it would of made more sense to the readers. We all knew Anko was going to be used for something of great importance. We all knew since Kabuto stated Oro's chakra is within the curse marks....it was childsplay to deduce that Oro could possibly return. Having someone like Tsunade search for the mask while also Naruto searching for Sasuke would of been the ideal way of introducing the mask and it's importance to the Edo Tensei. Though Kishi decided to go the idiot route and have Oro find it in some abandoned shack.....Tsunade searching would of been perfect since she is a descendant like Naruto of the Uzumaki clan.

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/619/4

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/618/14

Going back...so Juugo already gave Sasuke some Sennin mode chakra...that chakra somehow forced the six Zetsus to come out of Sasuke's body. A little confused as to how Sage chakra would force out hashi's (weak-Zetsu) chakra? Maybe the chakra was too potent for Zetsu to control. We know it is difficult to absorb sennin chakra as we saw in the battle against Pain.

Also we keep forgetting Oro has half of the required material to awaken a body like the sages. He has Hashi's weaker body of Zetsu which was enough to strengthen and maintain control over Tobirama. All he needs is the dna of an Uchiha.
The way Kishi decided to bring Orochimaru back creates a whole lot of mess to be honest. If Orochimaru can simply be brought back by syncing up his flesh with the chakra he embedded within the cursed seals, what's to stop the possibility of dozens of Orochimaru's being hypothetically created, after all, Anko and Sasuke were just two of the many that held his cursed seal mark. The principle itself just makes things goofy and without boundaries.
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The way Kishi decided to bring Orochimaru back creates a whole lot of mess to be honest. If Orochimaru can simply be brought back by syncing up his flesh with the chakra he embedded within the cursed seals, what's to stop the possibility of dozens of Orochimaru's being hypothetically created, after all, Anko and Sasuke were just two of the many that held his cursed seal mark. The principle itself just makes things goofy and without boundaries.
Well what made this situation unique was Kabuto being part Orochimaru and having his senjutsu. Kabuto is unlike any other of Oros diciples due to the fact he absorbed Oro and those cells were actively taking over Kabuto. Once Oro was reborn though weak he took his power from Kabuto. Even if Others hypothetically would be brough back they would desire to seek completion. It's kinda messy but not as bad. Kishi just implemented the idea way too late compared to Harry Potter who knew of the horcruxes (spl) earlier on.
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You don't understand, I was speaking to the 'Good', Characters, that has a name, ain't just a face, and they're storyline intermingled with Naruto.

Kushina, Jiraiya, Rin, and Neji. Anybody else came back, and forth, between life and death as an Edo. All 4 Ex Kage, Edo, Itachi, Edo, Asuma, Edo, Tsunade's Ex, Edo. So IMHO those characters DIDN'T DIE, they're stories one way or another continued on. Truth be told, even the shinobi that were good or bad in the past, came back as well, no death, equates to a cluster fuck at the end where the best Kishi could come up with was a Tug of War. He didn't know what to do with all his turds at one time.

At the same time it eats opportunity for main characters like pac man, making many of them either lame, or not nearly valid since forever.
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