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Old 01-18-2014, 01:45 AM   #61
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I guess Jekyl figured a piece of Zetsu is in Sasuke or something idk.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:15 AM   #62
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1. We're talking about Sasuke. The guy who could have had just about any female in this manga (excluding Hinata), has turned said females down, but has kissed Naruto!
The hell are you babbling about?
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2. White Zetsu is able to make a clone of anyone from "white goo".
He only creates clones of himself. He creates copies of other people. He doesn't create their DNA, just the feel of their chakra in order to fool sensors. I don't really know why you brought him in.
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Also, Zetsu, as well as... Yamato (who else forgot about Yamato, raise your hand) have Hashirama's DNA.
Zetsu is currently occupied (Black on Obito, White is...somewhere eating people, I guess). Yamato is still being raped by the Zetsu factory tree. What is the point?

The part of the post you quoted from me was talking about Edos, what are you trying to prove?
Dude, in all seriousness, if you can't read between the lines, which happen to point out the fallacies and humor of this manga (which you and several others take way too damn seriously, at least when bitching at each other), and you're about to be a dad... you need to lighten the hell up. Because running on a total of two hours of sleep in a 80 hr period, especially with a baby crying (for whatever reason... wet diaper, dirty diaper, hungry, colic, too hot, too cold), your shit is going to hit the fan. You either break or you learn to roll with the shit, literally, and try to have a little fun.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:23 AM   #63
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Dude, in all seriousness make some sense when you post. Even nlb didn't know what you were trying to get at. You took 1 line from my response to kyf and addressed NOTHING about it. How, exactly, am I supposed to "read between the lines"?

And nice try with the unwanted and unneeded pseudo "about to be a parent" advice. You ha e no clue how my kid will turn out. I don't even know how he'll turn out. But, judging from the thread about you in the hall of fail section, I'll take it with a grain of salt.
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Old 01-18-2014, 10:51 AM   #64
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Dude, in all seriousness make some sense when you post. Even nlb didn't know what you were trying to get at. You took 1 line from my response to kyf and addressed NOTHING about it. How, exactly, am I supposed to "read between the lines"?

And nice try with the unwanted and unneeded pseudo "about to be a parent" advice. You ha e no clue how my kid will turn out. I don't even know how he'll turn out. But, judging from the thread about you in the hall of fail section, I'll take it with a grain of salt.
Considering my "judges" are ones that take a fictional manga so serious to the point of degrading another stubborn... pretentious diehard, I'll take your comment with a grain of salt. If you can't read between the lines to understand you need to stop being so damn logical and factual over a piece of fictional work (one in which the author has basically stated by his writing that the parameters of the story mean little to nothing), and just laugh at the hilariousness that was once a pretty decent work, yeah, my advice to you, no matter how unwanted and unneeded it is, you're ass is going to need it.

I'm not saying your kid will be a bad kid. What I am saying, is at some point, if you have enough kids, you're going to have that one kid who stays up all night, crying over various things that babies cry over. It's natural. For example, my daughter, my first child... slept 8 hrs at night within her being 3 months old. She cut all of her first year teeth within 2 weeks, which was a huge blessing. Ask AMA and veng if you don't believe me on that one. My son, my second child, different story. Even though he's a year old now, there are still nights were he wakes up on the hour every two hours for no apparent reason it seems sometimes. Sometimes he's hungry, sometimes he has a dirty diaper, sometimes he's had a nightmare, sometimes he just wants to be held... doesn't make me son a bad kid. Just makes me realize to stop complaining about the lack of sleep, and instead of breaking and blowing a gasket on him, I just chillax if you will, and enjoy those moments with my son. Because when he gets older, he's not going to want to be around me as much.

So my point... stop being so serious. Lighten up a bit and have some fun. Because whenever your kid is born, odds are your world will be turned upside down, in a good way.

Now put all of that in your epic hall of fail.

Do you seriously think I care what you or anyone else says here, of all places? If that's the case, you seriously need a life.
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I guess Jekyl figured a piece of Zetsu is in Sasuke or something idk.
It was at one point, when Orochimaru was brought back to life, Zetsu's were attached to Sasuke unbeknowing to him. So shouldn't Sasuke have had some access to the probability of Rinnegan already?
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It was at one point, when Orochimaru was brought back to life, Zetsu's were attached to Sasuke unbeknowing to him. So shouldn't Sasuke have had some access to the probability of Rinnegan already?
They only attached to him and gave him chakra that was siphoned from the kages. All those zetsus emerged when Sasuke was in grave danger against Danzo and kakashi n crew. They never gave him a DNA implant like Juugo did when Bee whooped that ass. Unlike Orochimaru who does possesses Hashi cells through the exchange of his body into a zetsu. Sasuke at this point can only awaken the Rg through the natural evolution sequence of ems -rg.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:03 PM   #67
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Sasuke at this point can only awaken the Rg through the natural evolution sequence of ems -rg.
Except he can't. He needs the other half of the Sage lineage, Senju DNA. The only Senju with DNA worth a damn is Hashirama, and he's an edo. Last I looked edos don't bleed.
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Except he can't. He needs the other half of the Sage lineage, Senju DNA. The only Senju with DNA worth a damn is Hashirama, and he's an edo. Last I looked edos don't bleed.
Naruto,Karin and Tsunade are living Uzumaki's. As in Nagato's case he wasn't senju and he was able to house a rg pair. If Sasuke did recieve DNA from one of the said three he could.
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Naruto,Karin and Tsunade are living Uzumaki's.
Only one of those has a direct line to the Senju lineage.

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As in Nagato's case he wasn't senju and he was able to house a rg pair.
1) they weren't his eyes to begin with. 2) Nagato had Senju lineage, which is why he was able to not only house the Rinnegan, but able to summon the Gedo Mazo.

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If Sasuke did recieve DNA from one of the said three he could.
Karin and Naruto don't have specified ties to the Senju aside from the clans being distantly related. Tsunade's heritage is most likely too diluted (she's 2 generations removed from Hashirama) to be of use.
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Um why are you numbering points regarding his eyes? What I said was correct.. "House" as in they weren't his eyes. Um his direct lineage is because he was Uzumaki'.. Which I said.. Why else would Madara choose him? Uzumaki and Senju come from the same bloodline of the "body" son of the sage. All three of them are connected to Senju because their clans are blood relatives. If Madara was aware of Tsunades connection to Hashi I am sure it is not as watered down as you make it out.

Just to edit how coincidental would It be for Madara To choose someone who he needed to be Senju but actually came from the Uzumaki clan? Though you're claiming that like Tsunade Nagato came from both clans? Madara really lucked out....

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Nagato is part Senju as well apacolypz. I know we don't really care about this shit story anymore but Kishi flat out stated it. If you wanna look for manga panels be my guest because I won't do it.
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Nagato is part Senju as well apacolypz. I know we don't really care about this shit story anymore but Kishi flat out stated it. If you wanna look for manga panels be my guest because I won't do it.
The panel above could easily suggest to what I am saying. Nagato being of the Senju due to him being Uzumaki. The manga states as much, I also didn't ask you for panels. Nagato' is Uzumaki this has been discussed multiple times. Not one time in the manga did it flat out say... Nagato is Senju.... Isn't Uzumaki a spinoff branch of family from the Senju?
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Um why are you numbering points regarding his eyes?
1) because I can and 2) because there were different points to address.

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What I said was correct..
Not really.

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"House" as in they weren't his eyes.
Then fucking say that. Implication is not a font, it's not easy to read what you imply in a statement.

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Um his direct lineage is because he was Uzumaki'.. Which I said..
Which is only half correct.

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Why else would Madara choose him?
Because he has Senju lineage, like I fucking linked.

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All three of them are connected to Senju because their clans are blood relatives.
DISTANTLY RELATED. They share common ancestry, but they are separated enough that they aren't blood relatives. Which is why it's not creepy that Mito, an Uzumaki, married Hashirama.

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If Madara was aware of Tsunades connection to Hashi I am sure it is not as watered down as you make it out.
Tsunade is Hashirama's granddaughter. And Madara didn't make the connection, he had to ask her for it.

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Though you're claiming that like Tsunade Nagato came from both clans?
I'm not claiming anything. It was explicitly stated in the manga that Nagato was from both clans.
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1) because I can and 2) because there were different points to address.



Not really.



Then fucking say that. Implication is not a font, it's not easy to read what you imply in a statement.



Which is only half correct.



Because he has Senju lineage, like I fucking linked.



DISTANTLY RELATED. They share common ancestry, but they are separated enough that they aren't blood relatives. Which is why it's not creepy that Mito, an Uzumaki, married Hashirama.



Tsunade is Hashirama's granddaughter. And Madara didn't make the connection, he had to ask her for it.



I'm not claiming anything. It was explicitly stated in the manga that Nagato was from both clans.
1st. off it wasn't uncommon for close relatives to marry in the first place
2.I didn't need to imply, I said "house" purposely as Nagato didn't grow or own them naturally. If your thick head can't understand that then ... Just stop.
3. So explain what does Senju lineage mean? Why would Kishi elaborate on Uzumaki - Senju connection? Besides sealing techs
4. Madara already assumed as much he just wanted confirmation
5. No it doesn't explicitly say... From your mangapanda source (which could of been mistranslated) stated " Nagato is of Senju lineage" which could be viewed differently. You said they share a common ancestor but what does lineage mean?



Edit: aren't blood relatives? I have distant cousins and even my 8ths cousins we still share blood ties. Hell even my connection to them on a tree is still really close.

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Ok, this thing can be simplified very easily.

The Senju are the descendants of the 2nd son's bloodline. His bloodline had to of splintered into one or more groups that lived separated long enough to have evolved different characteristics.

Tsunade is closer to Senju than say Naruto and Karin because she holds recent admixture; her grandfather was straight up Senju. To our knowledge, there is no one in Naruto's and Karin's immediate bloodline that suggests they have "recent" Senju admixture.

Yes, Senju and Uzumaki are both descendants of the 2nd son, however, the two groups are not Senju. An Uzumaki's body can wield an implanted Rinnegan without drawbacks; see Nagato.

These be facts we know as now...
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