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Old 02-06-2014, 01:59 PM   #61
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that would be epic i could see someone making a spin-off like that and both kid growing up in competition with each other that might actually make for a better manga
I agree.
Question Which name would they go with?
Hyuga or Uzumaki/Uchiha or Uzumaki?

Also technically their kids would be family.

Also I can see the new Team 7 Naruto Jr./Sasuke Jr. and Lee Haruno (you know it's coming,lol) Jr.

B.O.T.

SO after all this Sasuke seems to actually be serious about being Hokage. But he said a "new village?" What does he mean by that?
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I agree.
Question Which name would they go with?
Hyuga or Uzumaki/Uchiha or Uzumaki?

Also technically their kids would be family.

Also I can see the new Team 7 Naruto Jr./Sasuke Jr. and Lee Haruno (you know it's coming,lol) Jr.

B.O.T.

SO after all this Sasuke seems to actually be serious about being Hokage. But he said a "new village?" What does he mean by that?
well i guess it would be hyuga and uchiha there the well know name's. and idk if karin know she's a uzumaki and naruto has no family to speck of and i think they take the surname of the most well know family in japan

yea distant cousins lol

new team 7
naruto jr.= ninjutsu/taijutsu

sasuke jr. = ninjutsu/genjutsu

Lee jr. = taijustu super fast super strong /medical techs

that's one boss ass well balanced team

about sasuke's vision i think the he n naruto will fight ether to a draw or naruto wins and they be come co hokage with sakura ,shikcamaru, and kakashi as advisers idk about a new village no ones going to follow sasuke over naruto right now and this could be a simple answer to the problem the so6p had insted of picking one to find peace pick both you need love to bring peace but u also need power to keep it sorry for the misspelling
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I was under the impression that one Bro was Senju, the other Bro, Uchiha, then the Hyuuga being around forever fell out the sky. Then the Uzimaki's whom AIN'T an offspring from the Senju, that's Joe Obvious... Mito HAD TO HAVE FREAKING PARENTS, AND WTF WERE THEY? So therefore the Uzimaki's has to have at least been around since around the beginning of the Senju, so was there an illigetimate Son somewhere, or what? And the bastard Hyuuga's what tree did they fall from, are we saying the Sage had 4 Sons KYF? Here's a question, what was the race where the Mother gave the son the fruit to eat in the first place, just curious? And then did that Son become the Sage of Six Paths, the official first one?
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This is not even Madara's final form gaiz!
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This is not even Madara's final form gaiz!
That's the problem, we're bored already, and he's only gonna get moar powerful... AS IF ITS NEEDED?!?!? Bodies are already depleted of chakra to almost nothing which is supposed to mean death, or already on deaths doorstep. By the time Him Dumbarass initiates Tsukidumbass Jutsu, he'll have a kingdom of 20 to 30 shinobi left, that are broken, and or weak. And the townspeople were never a threat to any significant shinobi, and He's been walking on that crap forever, that He's the MOST significant shinobi. So yes my friend a lot moar dumb and unnecessary is inbound. When being successful is the ability to possibly block an opponents attack without dying, or facing a single attack and dying, and that's all that's left, and its been going on since He came out the casket generally, with exception of 3 to 5 chapters where he disappeared offpanel, and or was in trouble a bit before ganking Obito, uh its so bad I can't help but run on...
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I was under the impression that one Bro was Senju, the other Bro, Uchiha, then the Hyuuga being around forever fell out the sky. Then the Uzimaki's whom AIN'T an offspring from the Senju, that's Joe Obvious... Mito HAD TO HAVE FREAKING PARENTS, AND WTF WERE THEY? So therefore the Uzimaki's has to have at least been around since around the beginning of the Senju, so was there an illigetimate Son somewhere, or what? And the bastard Hyuuga's what tree did they fall from, are we saying the Sage had 4 Sons KYF? Here's a question, what was the race where the Mother gave the son the fruit to eat in the first place, just curious? And then did that Son become the Sage of Six Paths, the official first one?
I don't think the Uchiha or the Senju existed initially. The elder brother held the father's doujutsu while the younger brother received the father's enhanced physical attributes. Eventually, the two brothers broke off from each other, with the younger brother's clan eventually spawning the Senju and the older brother's clan eventually spawning the Uchiha.

A long time ago, Kishi hinted that the Hyuuga were ancestors to the Uchiha, so it's fair to say that the Hyuuga derived from the elder brother's bloodline, while the Uchiha emerged from the Hyuuga; if Kishi is to be credited for what was mentioned a while ago in the manga. Though that would have to mean the Hyuuga clan splintered as a result of the sharingan appearing in some fashion, allowing the sharingan to propagate itself amongst a group kept separate from the primary Hyuuga stock.

Also, the younger son's bloodline could have had several offshoots, Senju and Uzumaki being two of perhaps many. Just a theory... Though I suppose the same could be said of the elder son's bloodline.
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I don't think the Uchiha or the Senju existed initially. The elder brother held the father's doujutsu while the younger brother received the father's enhanced physical attributes. Eventually, the two brothers broke off from each other, with the younger brother's clan eventually spawning the Senju and the older brother's clan eventually spawning the Uchiha.

A long time ago, Kishi hinted that the Hyuuga were ancestors to the Uchiha, so it's fair to say that the Hyuuga derived from the elder brother's bloodline, while the Uchiha emerged from the Hyuuga; if Kishi is to be credited for what was mentioned a while ago in the manga. Though that would have to mean the Hyuuga clan splintered as a result of the sharingan appearing in some fashion, allowing the sharingan to propagate itself amongst a group kept separate from the primary Hyuuga stock.

Also, the younger son's bloodline could have had several offshoots, Senju and Uzumaki being two of perhaps many. Just a theory... Though I suppose the same could be said of the elder son's bloodline.

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I agree with everything you mentioned and I think the mutation of the eyes is what caused the rift between Hyuuga and Uchiha. Hyuuga seem very respectful and humble in nature...Known as the strongest Taijutsu users in Konoah. They seemed to focus on their martial arts while the Uchihas through despair, hate, turmoil, love, loss evolved their eyes for power and position. Uchihas engaged in war and conflict while the Hyuugas remained peaceful and civil with other clans. As Tobirama mentioned Uchihas sacrifice love for power and were known as the most compassionate of people oddly lol. Hyuuga's remained peaceful though they did compete internally...otherwise within the Hyuuga compound you would not have a Main or sub branch.

Uchihas probably saw the Hyuugas as big headed assholes. Who were weak with resolve and unwilling to grasp their full potential. As they continued to discover their powers through dojutsus they understood the basic differences between each groups goals. Uchihas wanted to rule and Hyuugas weren't as ambitious. Uchihas were removed as a sub branch of Hyuuga and established themselves as their own individual clan. Also removing Hyuugas sleeping with Uchihas and mixing in that hate of the bloodline.

Senju and Uzumaki we have a little more detail about their background...Relatives who lived in dramatically different locations...Senju were of the forest and Uzumaki of the whirlpool. So my guess is these groups were separated for a long time. They hardly crossed paths. We really don't know much about Senju jutsu since Tobirama and Hashirama don't really share similar techs..Nor from what we saw of the parents...not much was passed down. So individual growth was based obviously on training since these are the descendants of the body younger son. Hashirama with the help of Madara grew to become the leader very quickly and mastered water and earth techs. Tobirama mastered water techs as well. I would say Senju are in favor of earth and water and Uchiha are in favor of fire and lightning. Uzumaki on the other hand focused on the ways of the Original sage. Sealing jutsus (Sage created) and expanding upon that base. Developing strong chakras and longevity as they didn't seem to have much conflict. The Uzumaki's were feared because they dealt with powers that were astonishingly similar techs originally used by the sage. Then they were wiped out and survivors divided up across the lands.

Just to edit Hyuuga are one of the oldest clans within Konoah and one of the four founding noble clans.

Hyuuga, Akimichi, Aburame and Uchiha are the Noble Clans with obviously Uchiha coming in last to sign the peace treaty. Though all of this was envisioned under the thumb of Hashirama and his adviser Tobirama.
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would still root for the Uzumaki/Hyuga kid over the Uchiha/Uzumaki. Why? the kid would learn EVERY TECHNIQUE Naruto and Hinata knows then take then up a level. Sage mode/64 palms anyone? Shadow clone lion fist, also he/she could shut down chakra networks(obviously).
You don't inherit sage mode and besides that how could you enhance 64 palms even further? It already closes the point what else could it do beyond that? Destroy it? ._.

EDIT: that tree can't be right. If the Uchiha were direct descendants of the elder then it would be better to say the Hyuuga are a devolution of the Uchiha since the Uchiha had to come first. Kakashi may have suggested it the two eyes were related but that's what the characters believed, they could be completely unrelated to begin with.

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You don't inherit sage mode and besides that how could you enhance 64 palms even further? It already closes the point what else could it do beyond that? Destroy it? ._.

EDIT: that tree can't be right. If the Uchiha were direct descendants of the elder then it would be better to say the Hyuuga are a devolution of the Uchiha since the Uchiha had to come first. Kakashi may have suggested it the two eyes were related but that's what the characters believed, they could be completely unrelated to begin with.
i think wat he meant is that naruto would teach his child sage mode which in turns powers up the 64 palms because sage mode makes everything stronger if he get's with hinata that is

the tree makes since to a point
like why the hyuuga's have a sub family and y the uchiha's are not born with the sharingan it could be because they lack signs of the eye power and were kick to the side and gain the power from the hate kind of like neji although i still think that the two clan are both son's of the elder because eye tech come form the sage so they both have to be related somehow to the older son
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Was thinking. You know what would be really kick ass for a plot twist involving bare foot person walking up to Sasuke. What if...it's the original Sot6P, wouldn't that be awesome? He could heal Sasuke, a legitimate power up would be forthcoming, and it would be a genuine plot twist which Kishi could use all kind of unique and interesting ways...oh who the fuck am I kidding? It's Kabuto.
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Anyone know the race of the Big Mom that fed her Baby Fruit, from the Big Stupid Plant?
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Anyone know the race of the Big Mom that fed her Baby Fruit, from the Big Stupid Plant?
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Ootsutsuki is the last name a human princess.. sage was born with chakra due to her eating the fruit
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i think wat he meant is that naruto would teach his child sage mode which in turns powers up the 64 palms because sage mode makes everything stronger if he get's with hinata that is
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You don't inherit sage mode and besides that how could you enhance 64 palms even further? It already closes the point what else could it do beyond that? Destroy it? ._.
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like why the hyuuga's have a sub family and y the uchiha's are not born with the sharingan it could be because they lack signs of the eye power and were kick to the side and gain the power from the hate kind of like neji although i still think that the two clan are both son's of the elder because eye tech come form the sage so they both have to be related somehow to the older son
You aren't born with a rinnegan either. Looking at it objectively, the Byakugan is related to the sharingan theory was just that, a theory. Kishi never once said eye techs came from the older brother either so I don't know where you got that from. The reason I said the tree should be flipped is because Senju and Uchiha are the main descendants of both brothers as told by the 101 stories on them so IF they were somehow related(Uchiha and Hyuuga) it would be better to say "first came Uchiha then Hyuuga" not the other way around. To me it seems like Byakugan is a devolution of the sharingan.
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...Kishi never once said eye techs came from the older brother either so I don't know where you got that from.
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-31099-1...apter-462.html

Blessed eyes did come from the older son. He was born with the RG and that through time became Sharingan and Byakyugan.

http://www.mangapanda.com/93-31099-1...apter-462.html

The Juubi the originator obviously had the Sharinnegan.

Funny thing is Madara is acting on the same ideals as the Older Son of the Sage.
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Blessed eyes did come from the older son. He was born with the RG and that through time became Sharingan and Byakyugan.
Where does it say that? Don't group the eyes all together that's a fallacy to begin with. The sharingan and byakugan may not be related to begin with, so treating them as if they came from the same source is stupid. We have no origins on it all we can call it is a KKG.

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The Juubi the originator obviously had the Sharinnegan.
Are you trying to prove my point for me? That just disproved your tree. Flip it the other way.
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