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Old 03-02-2014, 06:30 PM   #91
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Kakashi could've done some research since he knew having the eye would give him issues. MS wasn't exactly a secret, so there might have been something in an archive. Especially when he faced it and lost against Itachi.

As for the page you linked. He was telling Itachi that he not only knew about the weakness, but he had MS himself.

Basically, Kakashi has shown knowledge of it. But hasn't shown being affected by it so it's likely his unique case of being a non-Uchiha that awakened MS grants him an immunity to the vision degeneration.

No, Kakashi was telling Itachi he knew about the blindness because he also had a MS. There is no proof that Kakashi did any kind of research into MS. In fact he made his deductions going by his observations of their previous fight, coupled with his own experiences with a MS.

Given that the only other known Uchiha with a MS besides Itachi was Madara, it wouldn't exactly be common knowledge. Hell, even Chiyo didn't know about MS and she's old enough to have known about Madara.

Besides all that, you can't honestly tell me you believe using a technique that not only causes the eyes to become bloodshot, but also causes him to grab his eye in pain doesn't cause damage of some sort. Even the symptoms of fatigue are the same when Kakashi overuses his MS as they were when Itachi did likewise.
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:39 PM   #92
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Kakashi could've done some research since he knew having the eye would give him issues. MS wasn't exactly a secret, so there might have been something in an archive. Especially when he faced it and lost against Itachi.

As for the page you linked. He was telling Itachi that he not only knew about the weakness, but he had MS himself.

Basically, Kakashi has shown knowledge of it. But hasn't shown being affected by it so it's likely his unique case of being a non-Uchiha that awakened MS grants him an immunity to the vision degeneration.
That's really grasping at straws here..

How did Kakashi use kumi on Diedara without never using MS before?
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:24 PM   #93
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Kakashi can't go blind, Sasuke, Naruto, and Kakashi have been crutches for this broken legged animal since chapter one. Kishi spoke of him missing Jiraiya, whom he was on his way making him crutch #4, but Kishi can't live without his crutches. Take all 3 out and you no longer have a story of any relevance to anyone.

Additionally, Kakashi actually gained MS at the same time as Obito during Rin's death. He just didn't have the ability, or chakra to access it is the front. At some point when Shippuuden started, Kakashi had developed MS, and told Naruto about it, he wanted to show him his new jutsu, which was Kamui. First time was used on Diedara. Additionally Kakashi's eye, is seemingly linked to Obito's, so its also a probability that Kakashi couldn't access it, and wasn't using it, because Obito hadn't developed or tried much to use it. He was seen using it first at Rin's death, then in Konoha at Minato/Kushina's deaths, then (anime) against the Original Akatsuki. He didn't use it again for quite some time on panel when he was in the New Akatsuki, until he came out calling himself Uchiha Madara.

Besides that Obito's eyes MS or not has been the 2nd biggest hax in the manga, besides Kyuubs. Rules don't seem to apply to either, not very much.
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Well, in theory, Kakashi should eventually go blind. It would have made sense to give Kakashi a little break because like Itachi prior to his battle with Sasuke, he didn't spam the Mangekyou really; Itachi went about 10 years or so without going blind because he only used it sparingly and gave his eyes time to rest. Sasuke went blind so fast because right after he activated it, he spammed it against Killer Bee, the Kages, and Danzou in such rapid fashion it was like he didn't care. There were fights where Sasuke used little else besides the Mangekyou. He never rested, just spam, spam, spam. Of course, Kakashi "should" be feeling the stresses, now, like Itachi against Sasuke, there's been no rest, just subsequent usage.

I don't even want to touch Obito's case with a 10 foot poll because it makes no goddamn sense and it's likely, like many things in Naruto, Kishi just forgets or ignores for the sake of furthering the plot.
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I kinda wonder if the healing from the Kyuubi during this fight might have neutralized (or at least slowed down) any loss of eyesight. Kakashi has clearly used Kamui more in this arc than he has all other fights in this manga combined.
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I kinda wonder if the healing from the Kyuubi during this fight might have neutralized (or at least slowed down) any loss of eyesight. Kakashi has clearly used Kamui more in this arc than he has all other fights in this manga combined.
Yeah everybodies been boosted in Kyuubi Mode, makes one wonder why Ino, and Shikamaru just didn't simply take over peoples bodies, and or simply sew them so they couldn't move. I don't think an Uchiha has anything to simply make Ino get out, or simply to bust out of Nara Binds, perhaps stronger chakra matters, but it shouldn't.
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Yeah everybodies been boosted in Kyuubi Mode, makes one wonder why Ino, and Shikamaru just didn't simply take over peoples bodies, and or simply sew them so they couldn't move. I don't think an Uchiha has anything to simply make Ino get out, or simply to bust out of Nara Binds, perhaps stronger chakra matters, but it shouldn't.
I dunno about Ino entering a Uchiha body. Oro tried that shit and got shut down quick. A boost to Everyone else should have worked though. The moment Madara came back to life, Shikamaru should have threaded his ass with his Shadow Needle move and turned him into swiss cheese. I doubt even madara is going to be looking for an attack coming from his own shadow.
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I dunno about Ino entering a Uchiha body. Oro tried that shit and got shut down quick. A boost to Everyone else should have worked though. The moment Madara came back to life, Shikamaru should have threaded his ass with his Shadow Needle move and turned him into swiss cheese. I doubt even madara is going to be looking for an attack coming from his own shadow.
When Madara came back to life everyone was moved away. Soon as the Bijuu got into the fight the Kages moved everyone away. That's why they are fighting "Spiralmato" in a different area. (come on we all know it's Yamato,right?)
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I dunno about Ino entering a Uchiha body. Oro tried that shit and got shut down quick. A boost to Everyone else should have worked though. The moment Madara came back to life, Shikamaru should have threaded his ass with his Shadow Needle move and turned him into swiss cheese. I doubt even madara is going to be looking for an attack coming from his own shadow.
I don't think anyone can actually stop Ino's Mind Body Switch technique, except maybe one wielding a Rinnengan. But its odd because at one point Jiraiya, Ma & Pa Toad were like, 'fuck them up with this genjutsu song'... and it worked against 3 of them. Later Pein was like 'I don't have time for that shit, and simply rapted them before they could do it. Therefore I suspect, that Rinnengan users are weak vs. genjutsu, but they're power is so overwhelming that a genjutsu user would prolly get tossed before even completing whatever. Additionally Madara being an Uchiha, near Masters of Genjutsu, I could see it as a problem getting at him. He's disappointing though, at one point Obito as the Sage, was telling Sasuke he could feel his chakra welling up to produce Amaretsu, something so minute as that, so DA BOSS, Madara should never even have '!!' those stupid shits on a panel in front of his face ever.
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I don't think anyone can actually stop Ino's Mind Body Switch technique, except maybe one wielding a Rinnengan.
Her technique is like a tug-of-war between her mind and her victim for control of the victims body. It might work against most people, but anybody with a strong mind should be able to kick her ass out of their head. LOL, Sakura of all people did that shit to Ino back in the day. Kakashi explains it's fairly well.

I also mentioned Oro because his immortality jutsu for taking over peoples bodies is basically the same thing, but more permanent. When fighting against the "Inner Mind" of an opponent Sharigan also applies, as Oro got destroyed when tried to take over sasuke. I assume this has to do with the special chakra unleashed in the brain when the Sharigan is unleashed that was mentioned some chapters back. This makes any attempt of mind control against a Uchiha almost impossible, unless from another Uchiha or from a Mega-Haxxed jutsu. I suppose that Rinnegan interegation/soul-sucking move would work, since Rinnegan is a more evolved form of SG.


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This is what makes coming to this site every now and then appealing. Also, your new sig reminds me of that owl commercial with the two owls and the one that keeps saying "hoo".

Now the artist needs to do one of Naruto's heart, while Kishi switches back to the foot, Sasgay, and Tobirama.
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