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Old 03-26-2014, 09:19 AM   #16
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Well, this chapter is a prime example of why not having any kind of expectations when it comes to this manga. Kishimoto managed to not fuck up one concept of this manga, but three!
  1. Naruto being the underdog? Fuck no, he's the reincarnation of the best guy ever!
  2. Naruto achieving goals by himself? Nope, reincarnation!
  3. Grey morality? Wrong again, now it's all black and white because the quintessential bad guy and good guy reincarnate over the generations.
To be honest, I was expecting Naruto being the second coming of the RS or his younger son, but metaphorically, not literally.
Reincarnation theoretically doesn't work that way. It is more of an influence of your past self than an actual control or possession. Naruto said that because that's how he understood it.
You can't talk to your soul you can take on some things from your past but it also gathers bits from each life before it became you. Basically it's experience becomes your intuition or even deja vu feelings.
Ashura is not a tailed beast he can't "give" Naruto anything directly because he IS Naruto. They have the same Nature,same attitude maybe. But I am guessing he wasn't as dumb,or else Hag would be used to talking simple automatically.

Well anyway, that is my understanding.

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Old 03-26-2014, 09:29 AM   #17
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hey all ive been following this site and its crazy theories and comments for some time now. nothing naruto related just that the chap was above avg at least fr me. my real qs is where the hell is kyf? (nah in no way shape or form consider me his cheerleader) just that he was the main limelight the real life of party for this site without him to annoy or challenge u all it seems kinda boring and all and i kinda miss his crazy stuff.......thats wat made this site really interesting so anybdy knows anything?
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:33 AM   #18
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Y'know, exposition can add a lot to a work but holy shit make it actually relevant to anything. The one and only piece of information gained in this that added fucking anything to the story was "I am the six paths sage blargh." Everything else was pants-shittingly pointless.
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:40 AM   #19
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So chakra mechs were the weapon of choice back in the day as well huh ?
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:02 AM   #20
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Chakra mechs and spiri - er bijuu bombs.
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lol at the people that said Hashimara and Naruto weren't related.


Turns out that they're literally reincarnated versions of the same person.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:30 AM   #22
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He didn't say Hashirama was the reincarnation of Ashura.
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I think it's safe to assume that Madara and Hashimara were the "reincarnations" before they eventually died. Then it moved on to Naruto and Sasuke.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:36 AM   #24
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Except it's not stated, so you're arguing from ignorance. Not to mention Hashirama has none of Ashura's traits. He wasn't a slacker. He was more beastly than his parents. Aside from wanting peace he was the exact opposite of Ashura.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:25 AM   #25
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... And Hashirama can't be categorized as a "useless dropout" when he was young.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:34 AM   #26
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Anyone notice that Madara wasn't completely right about the So6P story?

It was never mentioned before that he had a brother, or that Mom came from a "far off land".
Heck even the stuff about his sons wasn't exact. Ashura didn't inherit a damn thing, he worked hard for it.
Also the time line is corrected.
1.mom at fruit.
2.had twins.
3.twins fought the 10 tails,guess mom was dead or busy.
4.twins split the ten tails.
*guessing the chakra went into Hog and the body into the other brother.
5.he had twins.
6.the grew up went different paths
7.he split the ten into 9 beasts after being inspired by Ash(groovy)
8.he chose Ashura to be the next leader of Ninshuu aka Sage of Six Paths,and probably caretaker of the Bijuu
9. Brothers at war, the cycle begins
10(?). beginning of the clans

Also for all we know there last names were still Kaguya, due to no mention of his dad or his wife. I assume Kaguya was still dominant. So Senju and Uchiha came from Kaguya clan.

oh and Hashi and Madara are not the reincarnations, just cause they have similar issues. throughout history people will have the same story. One person has beliefs another has different then,they fight over it or come to terms with it or both. The true reincarnates are Naruto and Sasuke.

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hnnnn i can have a forsee of the ending off this manga now..................

sasuke naruto final battle will not happen.......true progress is sasuke naruto realise that cooperate with each other is better than battle thus ending cycle of generations......then ghost of indra ashura will leave sasuke naruto bodies and smile in a way this resolution will set their soul free and they entrust the future for naruto sasuke.........
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Rikkudou: My BROTHER and I fought against the Juubi, that was the incarnation of the holy tree, and sealed it inside of US.

So basically the Juubi was originally split in two and Rikkudou used half the Juubi to create the Bijuu. So then WTF happened to the other half? So fucking dumb. O and Naruto is apparently possessed by some ancient spirit proving once again that hard work means jack shit. 1 out of 5.
I thought the chapter was ok. I didn't mind the actual intro of the Rikudo sage and the references to his sons. What has my peeved is the notion that that mention of "us", means that there is room for more to come after this atrocity.
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I thought the chapter was ok. I didn't mind the actual intro of the Rikudo sage and the references to his sons. What has my peeved is the notion that that mention of "us", means that there is room for more to come after this atrocity.
I think it is Kishi just telling his version of the "rule of two".
Instead of Master and Padawan, it takes two sides to create true peace and progress.
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Reincarnation theoretically doesn't work that way. It is more of an influence of your past self than an actual control or possession. Naruto said that because that's how he understood it.
You can't talk to your soul you can take on some things from your past but it also gathers bits from each life before it became you. Basically it's experience becomes your intuition or even deja vu feelings.
And your evidence of all of that is? Or are you talking about your own view on reincarnation rather than what the manga's? Because if it's the latter, it's worthless as mine or anyone else's.
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