GOD I hate you.
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I didn't know you believed that evolution should only be taught in schools and I think it is good for evolution to be taught in schools. As long as it's a fair playing field. But that's getting into one more even bigger discussion. (I believe you should be able to learn about Bibical events and evolution events all in the same school...But it doesn't happen that way.)
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...Are you completely unaware about the very reason that Intelligent Design exists? It exists as a new tool that creationists use to teach Biblical teachings in schools. It is a foothold for God in an area where there is supposed to be a completely neutral ground on religion, banning it completely in order for advancement with less of a chance for bias.
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I never said you'd go to hell. And I never knew you were in any way religious. I also didn't know that being a "Sunday-Christian", or Jewish or Catholic or Mormon or whatever, makes you go to heaven. Anyways, I'm not going to start on who goes to hell and heaven. I don't know.
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Wow, you twist your own words almost as well as you twist mine. You said, " don't give a shit what you look at me as. But all I know that is when we die, if I'm right I know where I'm going." You're using a weak version of Pascal's Wager (without even knowing what Pascal's Wager is). The thing is, God can exist in all its form and beauty, but guess what? If God exists, then that doesn't change the empirical evidence we have of evolution. There is no way that two people could exist and have them, and only them, populate the entire world. But again, religion and evolution are not mutually exclusive, like you tend to believe.
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And I semi do. But it doesn't help me for the fact that I don't believe all of science is well...FACT. The way my brother puts it is he believes in the Big Bang Theory. God spoke and there was a bang, as the popular idea of the Earth being created out of an explosion or implosion of sorts. I believe that too. But from Monkey-To-Man, I don't.
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How is it impossible to see it? Is it because humans have glorified themselves as some kind of miracle? Either way, it doesn't matter. We have proof of macroevolution occuring showing exactly how pre-humans turned into modern ones. Even places like creationresearch.org will admit that there were pre-modern humans. For what are the fossils of Austrolapithecus? What are with the with Homo Ergaster? What about Homo Neanderthalus? Etc. It is easy to see how they formed.
But don't believe it. Fine. Just do me a favor: In college, take a course on Human Evolution that explains just how it is possible that humans evolved from apes. It really isn't that hard. (Especially seeing as how recent evidence shows that that genetically, chimpanzees are almost 98% genetically similar to humans. Funny how that is, hmm? A few minor mutations and changes can lead to easier bipedalism. A few chance encounters can account for more advanced tools, such as Mode 1. A few more changes can account for exactly how certain Aust. are so similar to chimps. Then a few more minor changes alone would translate into another form and another. Humans aren't all that special. We're animals.
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I never said call names. I'm not that immature. Calling names is shit like "doo-doo-head" from the 1st grade. But you did try and put down my knowledge by directly saying I don't know anything. If you want the quote I'll be glad to find it.
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Really? Wait, what's that? Oh right. You did.
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And I knew this was a bad idea to debate. All it does is instigates people to call me names and shit for no reason other then they have an opinion that I'm wrong. You win, I'll leave.
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So please, take up on your promise and leave if you have nothing to add but subtle twists and denials. And saying you don't know what you are talking about isn't an insult. It's stating a fact. You were the one, after all, that did not know anything about adaptation, a simple concept in evolution, despite numerous claims to having taken courses on the subject of evolution.
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True, but it's not an "enjoyable" thing when someone like yourself comes into the process and at some points is nice and reasonable and the next point completely radical. No offense, that's just how you're coming off to me.
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The learning process isn't enjoyable. The moment when you realize just how wrong you are and realizing the truth and then coming to embrace it is what is wonderful. It's enlightening. As my theatre teacher once told me: "I'm gunna break you down and then build you up again. Fight me or go with me, I don't care. In the end, you'll be on my side and you won't know how you even lived before."
12-14-2005, 06:12 PM
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