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Old 09-17-2006, 10:29 PM   #16
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Re: All these unexplained things, where and what are they all leading to?

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There are 3 boys on the playground, 1 big one and two smaller children, Now lets say the 2 small children have a history of fighting arguing and such, now, if the bigger kid sees these two kids fighting, should he not intervene and stop these children, that is the same reason why the USA ,in some peoples eyes, should help smaller countries.
ROFLMAO the one with the history of fighting is the big fat kid representing the USA man Hey, US history began when immigrants came butchering the native indians, mind you... and if there hadn't been the introduction of human rights, black slaves would still be wiping their white masters' complacant asses.
Help smaller countries - make me laugh. Up until now, their only help was cutting down the population so there were more resources for the few who survived the "Oops, missed the target, killed civilians - again"-crap the US army keeps pulling on people. Ofcourse, if all my neighbours get killed in a US attack, I get the whole supermarket for myself, unless it's buried under the debris. Thanks for the help, dear USA

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another scenerio, The police will arrest people with guns if they do not have a permet, although the police themselves have guns, so do you mean by what you are saying technically it is wrong for police to have guns? or is it appropriate for some kind of authority to have something to controll the things it is trying to protect, while protecting itself at the same time.
Although many cops are abusive bastards, please don't compare the keepers of the small man's peace to the US government who acts as the very opposite. Thanks. Despite of what the USA think, they are not the world police. Thank god. I would be so scared.

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People just like to complain, in a few years they will be crying about the next president
US just like to complain, in a few years they will be crying about the next axis of evil THEY declared as such. There may have been reasons to go into war, but from Hiroshima over Afghanistan to Iraq, they've always kept overdoing it on the civilians and thereby, stoop down to the same lows as the terrorists they despise so much.

@Kekkei Genkai & topic
Indeed, some things about these events are creepy. Although the way it's made and brought to us is a little "un-serious" with all the music and shit, it's frighteningly well-argued and worth the time:
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...80089639960023
On one hand, it seems almost outrageous, on the other hand, if this video is a joke, the creator risks his life for publishing this if he's discovered. Kinda high risk for a joke.
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Old 09-18-2006, 07:25 PM   #17
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...Well if you were to compare this situation to the war in the middle east, then the bigger child would be beating the crap out of the other two children. America ran into the middle east with explosives and placed military bases on top of it. Intervention in this way helps no one.
Really, i think otherwise... hell i know other wise, but you have your opinion and i doubt any facts i give you, you will change your mind

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He's probably saying that it's hypocritical; that America has no greater right than another country to carry it's nuclear weapons. But I disagree, America does have more of a right, in comparison to certain radical groups of people. These groups of people would love to have nukes to kill the people they hate. America, on the other hand, doesn't have a particular country right now that it would like to completely massacre.
I don't think america has completely massacred any country, but besides that. Also i don't think it is hypicritical, but when you say that isn't it basically the same thing just shrunken.

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We pulled men out of Afghanistan and stuck them in Iraq. It's not that we completely left Afghanistan, it's that we reduced our forces there, and sent extra forces to a place that had nothing to do with our initial fight.
First, are you sure we are not in Afghanastan, because I have a SLIGHT feeling that you are wrong.

2nd, what people are super ignorant about and cannot get this through thier stubborn heads, our war is not, "THE WAR AGAINST BIN LADDEN" it is actually, "THE WAR ON TERROR". Sadam DID have WMDs at some point, Sadam DID use these wmd on his own people. Sadam DID fund many terrorist organisations. and That means Sadam is a terrorist wich we have the means to destroy, wich then leads to the process of destroying them.



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Crying to Bush about gas prices is logical, because Bush sent us to war, and war needs quite a bit of oil to run. As oil runs out, gas prices will raise. It wouldn't be so bad if we were losing our oil for a legit cause, but that's not the case.
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Old 09-18-2006, 07:45 PM   #18
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Re: All these unexplained things, where and what are they all leading to?

[QUOTE=Ore-sama;747545]ROFLMAO the one with the history of fighting is the big fat kid representing the USA man Hey, US history began when immigrants came butchering the native indians, mind you... and if there hadn't been the introduction of human rights, black slaves would still be wiping their white masters' complacant asses. [QUOTE]

Really..... i would like to know where you get your facts because the US area has been around for lets say 600 years.... how many wars have they had lets say 20..... so 20 wars, now your telling me that the middle east (craddel of civilization) witch has been around for over 2000 years has had fewer than 20 wars, because if that is true, than i need to see this "informational site" but of course there probably isn't one because i guess some people like to come to debate things they hardly know anything about, and have a one-sided veiw on things, while some people try to discuss things they know about.....

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Help smaller countries - make me laugh. Up until now, their only help was cutting down the population so there were more resources for the few who survived the "Oops, missed the target, killed civilians - again"-crap the US army keeps pulling on people. Ofcourse, if all my neighbours get killed in a US attack, I get the whole supermarket for myself, unless it's buried under the debris. Thanks for the help, dear USA
WOW!!! after that first paragraph i didn't think it was possible for you to make another one with obscered facts....

smaller countries that the USA has helped

1.) England-WWII
2.) Poland- WWII
3.)China- WWII
4.)South Korea- Korean War
5.) France- WWII
6.)South Vietnam- Veitnam War
7.) African Countries- WWII and forigen aid
8.)Cuba- Helped take down a vicious dictator(sounds fimilliar.... but why don't people whine???)
9.)Panama- Helped gained independance (I have to admitt this was a selfish endever, but we still helped)
10.)Samalia- Tried (i know i said africa but we tried hard to help samalia)

now thats 10..... i don't see any place where we have destroyed the population, but what ever you got that info source that i talked about earlier....

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Although many cops are abusive bastards, please don't compare the keepers of the small man's peace to the US government who acts as the very opposite. Thanks. Despite of what the USA think, they are not the world police. Thank god. I would be so scared.
Thats just ignorant, I shouldn't even validate that with a response

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US just like to complain, in a few years they will be crying about the next axis of evil THEY declared as such. There may have been reasons to go into war, but from Hiroshima over Afghanistan to Iraq, they've always kept overdoing it on the civilians and thereby, stoop down to the same lows as the terrorists they despise so much.
No...... show me facts and then i will awnser
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:41 PM   #19
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Re: All these unexplained things, where and what are they all leading to?

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Really, i think otherwise... hell i know other wise, but you have your opinion and i doubt any facts i give you, you will change your mind
I'm not as stubborn as you think. If the fact's are presented, I can change my mind.

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I don't think america has completely massacred any country, but besides that. Also i don't think it is hypicritical, but when you say that isn't it basically the same thing just shrunken.
I'm just giving you a little insight on the posters logic, so you can understand their point of view.

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First, are you sure we are not in Afghanastan, because I have a SLIGHT feeling that you are wrong.
We pulled troops out of Afghanistan, but not all of them. Sorry I didn't clarify. My point was that pulling many troops out of Afghanistan and sticking them in an unrelated country is just as bad (but not as bad) as completely abandoning Afghanistan.

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2nd, what people are super ignorant about and cannot get this through thier stubborn heads, our war is not, "THE WAR AGAINST BIN LADDEN" it is actually, "THE WAR ON TERROR". Sadam DID have WMDs at some point, Sadam DID use these wmd on his own people. Sadam DID fund many terrorist organisations. and That means Sadam is a terrorist wich we have the means to destroy, wich then leads to the process of destroying them.
lol. I've already explained about how poisonous gas, although a biological weapon, is not a weapon of mass destruction. And you know that Saddam was our ally in the past because of the oil he traded us, right? Why wasn't he such a horrible dictator back then? Oh. He turned horrible when he stopped trading oil to us.

As for terrorists organizations, which organizations did he specifically fund? Would appreciate a link/source.
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Old 09-19-2006, 06:34 PM   #20
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I'm not as stubborn as you think. If the fact's are presented, I can change my mind.
Ight cool, just some people get me angry and are usless debateing agaisnt.

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I'm just giving you a little insight on the posters logic, so you can understand their point of view.
My bad i misunderstood you i thought you were saying they actually have done that.

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We pulled troops out of Afghanistan, but not all of them. Sorry I didn't clarify. My point was that pulling many troops out of Afghanistan and sticking them in an unrelated country is just as bad (but not as bad) as completely abandoning Afghanistan.
I actually agree, we need more guys in Afghan, but we do have tons of Special Ops guys there, In my family there are 4 uncles and step dad that are special forces

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ol. I've already explained about how poisonous gas, although a biological weapon, is not a weapon of mass destruction. And you know that Saddam was our ally in the past because of the oil he traded us, right? Why wasn't he such a horrible dictator back then? Oh. He turned horrible when he stopped trading oil to us.
That i know, its gay when that happends..... the same as Stalin during WWII.. but i guess it was for our benifit

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As for terrorists organizations, which organizations did he specifically fund? Would appreciate a link/source.

http://www.slate.com/id/2108636/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202277,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199053,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199052,00.html#1
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I believe we will be the cause of the world's destruction.
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