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Old 01-02-2007, 02:53 PM   #1
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has anyone noticed yet?

Has anynoe noticed that naruto preformed the fuuton rasengan with out a clone?furthemore is he able to do the regular rasengan wihout a clone as well?
What do you think?
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:10 PM   #2
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Re: has anyone noticed yet?

If that's the case, Naruto should be able to do the Rasengan by himself, since the Fuuton Rasengan requires him to form the Rasengan in his hand, while fusing nature manipulation at the same time. Now that is pretty difficult, at least with shadow clones it was easier, but now that Naruto can fuse the two manipulations at the same time, well that is just brilliant. Maybe all that training with the shadow clones while adding and forming the Rasengan with nature manipulation really paid off.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:20 PM   #3
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ya i did kinda notice that and thats awsome that he is finnaly able to do it 1 handed
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:00 PM   #4
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Re: has anyone noticed yet?

i noticed it too,
but it can probably be that the clone just disappeared after it created the rasengan!!!
let's see.
but if it's the case then i expect him to own kakuzu^^
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:08 PM   #5
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Re: has anyone noticed yet?

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Has anynoe noticed that naruto preformed the fuuton rasengan with out a clone?furthemore is he able to do the regular rasengan wihout a clone as well?
What do you think?
ummmm there is no way that we would know he used a clone or not, coz all we saw was a rasangan in narutos hand, there could have been a clone right there while naruto was doing it but we saw nothing, and after the smoke cleared the clone is gone, much like every other time he does rasangan, his clone proof away instantly, and it should or kazuku would know of his jutsu.
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:41 PM   #6
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Re: has anyone noticed yet?

Like MajinX said, we didn't see him form the Rasengan, we just saw him use it. To answer the question here, he can perform the normal Rasengan without clones, but he can't do the Fuuton Rasengan without them.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:19 PM   #7
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Re: has anyone noticed yet?

He probly did use shadow clones we just couldnt see this because thy didnt show us. YOu realy shouldnt have made this thread. Its impossible to tell.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:44 PM   #8
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If he did use shadow clones to preform the fuuton rasengan don't you think it's time that he learned to use it without a shadow clone.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:49 PM   #9
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Re: has anyone noticed yet?

Well i think that he could be right (uchihamadara), Kishi usually shows the clones in the manga. this time there was no clone, so he is right for now. fczcold65 this thread is fine to me, we will find out soon. I think that this training has made naruto learn better control. never know he might actually beable to do it
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:01 PM   #10
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I can see him doing the regular rasengan with one hand but im not sure that its possible for him to do fuuton rasengan without a clone considering naruto said it was almost impossible because it required so much consentration just to do the rasengan by it self let alone add wind nature to it. And you can't just say that it was because of naruto's lack of chakra control because jariaya and kakashi both couldn't do it. And up until the point where the 4th died he couldn't do it either. So what this means is that if he could do it without clones he would have chakra control above all other ninjas now.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:55 PM   #11
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i think that he can do it thats y he didnt go after he was able to do it he wanted to master it first and mastering it means being able to do it without clones
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I can see him doing the regular rasengan with one hand but im not sure that its possible for him to do fuuton rasengan without a clone considering naruto said it was almost impossible because it required so much consentration just to do the rasengan by it self let alone add wind nature to it. And you can't just say that it was because of naruto's lack of chakra control because jariaya and kakashi both couldn't do it. And up until the point where the 4th died he couldn't do it either. So what this means is that if he could do it without clones he would have chakra control above all other ninjas now.
I don't think chakra control has anything to do with it. Remeber it's more like a knack or special ability. Even with shadow clones, Kakashi said that it was impossible for himself to do it like that even if he was the 4th Hokage so I don't think it has much to do with chakra control.

I would not be shocked if Naruto was able to use the Fuuton Rasengan in one hand. He has been training with shadow clones for awhile, I'm sure Naruto could have picked it up along during his training. I do think Naruto is able to form and fuse the Rasengan with nature manipulation at the same time, he has a lot of chakra so something impossible for others may not be impossible for Naruto.

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I don't think chakra control has anything to do with it. Remeber it's more like a knack or special ability. Even with shadow clones, Kakashi said that it was impossible for himself to do it like that even if he was the 4th Hokage so I don't think it has much to do with chakra control.

I would not be shocked if Naruto was able to use the Fuuton Rasengan in one hand. He has been training with shadow clones for awhile, I'm sure Naruto could have picked it up along during his training. I do think Naruto is able to form and fuse the Rasengan with nature manipulation at the same time, he has a lot of chakra so something impossible for others may not be impossible for Naruto.
Exactly, Kakashi gave credit that even with the amount off control in chakra he has he cannot even do the incomplete Rasengan to its full effect because he doesn't have enough chakra to do so. Then he admitted that the 4th couldn't do it even though he had the chakra and control but not the "talent" or so to merge the two. Further more, Kakashi admitted that only Naruto had the chakra amount and resilence to do shadow clone jutsu and the rasengan and then start adding nature manipulation...... all of that at one time calls on a tremendous strain on the body and chakra. Like, shadow clones split your chakra, then rasengan takes 100% of your chakra and concentration to maintain, then nature manipulation calls of full focus since he isn't even using hand signs either......... and then merge all that together. After training for nearly a day with doing all that at once and with multiple shadow clones all doing the same thing too........ Naruto has to have exponentially increased his chakra control and amount of chakra. So, I would say that all that could result in being able to do the Fuuton Rasengan in one hand. But we will have to wait and see now won't we.
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Re: has anyone noticed yet?

the 4th could have done it eventually but he died before his prime and before he could finish the rasengan and i do think that naruto can do it in one hand now thats y he didnt leave after he made the crater cause he knew that using 2 clones would be bad in a fight cause its too obvious so he stayed longer so he could master it and do it wit one hand
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I don't think chakra control has anything to do with it. Remeber it's more like a knack or special ability. Even with shadow clones, Kakashi said that it was impossible for himself to do it like that even if he was the 4th Hokage so I don't think it has much to do with chakra control.
um lets look at it why don't. first the rasengan nothing but chakra control on the highest level i might add. nature manipulation into rasengan is nothing but chakra control. which was why he couldn't do it before because it took to much concetration. like naruto said looking 2 different ways at the same time. The reason both the 4th and kakashi could do it was because neither of them had enough chakra to hold the shadow clones as well as create nature chakra + shape manipulation. which is why most ninja don't use shadow clones like naruto does because they can't. if you think about it cutting your chakra in half or even more if you create more than one clone would be a lot for most ninjas.
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