Should Marijuana be illegal - Page 2

doglike · 03-07-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuerhachi Niru

I bet less people would die over it if it wasn't illegal.

( I don't smoke pot if that's what you're thinking...)

its pretty much impossible to OD on marijuana. it should definately be legal. it is stupid that it is illegal. it is less dangerous than alcohol (which is served at public events such as ballgames and leads to fights), taxable, and has medicinal value. there is no good reason for it to be illegal.

Khari · 03-07-2006, 06:13 PM

oh how inspiring this is my questions have been answered our mod does teh pot :/

DarkAztek · 03-07-2006, 06:22 PM

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its pretty much impossible to OD on marijuana. it should definately be legal. it is stupid that it is illegal. it is less dangerous than alcohol (which is served at public events such as ballgames and leads to fights), taxable, and has medicinal value. there is no good reason for it to be illegal.

That's actually a common myth. Pot lowers the blood pressure quite a bit and while it may be impossible to smoke so much that you die, it can do other things that could cause you to die. For example, if you drink a lot of coffee with it, your blood pressure will lower as your heart rate rises, which can cause several problems.

It is also far less widely used than alcohol, so there is not quite as much truth to saying that it is less dangerous than alcohol. I also explained why it has NO real medicinal value.

Dosu189 · 03-07-2006, 06:32 PM

sheik · 03-07-2006, 06:45 PM

When I first saw the title of the thread I was going to smack you with the der der derrrrrr stick!

Well I feel it should stay illegal.

I think they should ban a lot of stuff in this world. If they decided to ban something out of the blue then it would be hard to stop all of a sudden.

People who want to smoke weed bad feels like they want that drug because it gives you a high you just can't shake off.

It is like when you are turned on. That feel you get is from your body being druged by chemicals that effect your horomone. So technicly you are high or druged up so that is why you tend to do thing you wouldn't normally do when you are not turned on.

That is how a person on Marijuana is like.

flareofdragon · 03-07-2006, 07:10 PM

Idiots to those that say ban everything.

Lets say you ban alcohol. What do you think happens? People following the law? No. There will be a bunch of drug stores that sell alcohol. And guess what? The government cannot acknowledge the drug wars going on from specific people wanting to control a territory to sell their drugs.

Second, Marijuana is a THC oriented drug. Obviously it messes around with your brain. But the effects are temporary and, if taken responsibly, hardly amounts to any damage (from current studies). Long term addicts will have memory problems, just like alcoholics have those anger problems. However, we all know that a sip of beer would not distort your vision (unless you are rock lee...). Responsibility is key.

Thats about it. Marijuana should be slowly introduced. Illegalizing it is dumb (scientifically).

Khari · 03-07-2006, 07:20 PM

meh I guess we just sit back and watch ppl screw themselves up all day

ravengirl · 03-07-2006, 07:49 PM

People screw themselves up in different ways every day. In my opinion we can't just live our lives in metaphorical "bubbles", sitting at home, wrapped in a blanket, staring at the wall. Everything you do in life has a risk, and if you know the risk that makes it less dangerous.

Drink booze - wreck your liver, get jaundiced, possibly become dependent, die...
Smoke cigarettes - wreck your lungs, get cancer, possibly become dependent die...
Smoke pot (eat pot, whatever) - wreck your lungs, kill some brain cells, possibly become dependent, die
Eat a burger - clog your arteries, get heart disease, possibly become dependent, die...

Ya see, it can happen with nearly anything. So as long as its done responsibly, I say go ahead and smoke the ganj. But from my experience, drinking first, then smoking up = badness, with puke and such. But that can happen anyways from drinking your face off, or chain smoking.

Your body, do what you will with it.

doglike · 03-07-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkAztek

That's actually a common myth. Pot lowers the blood pressure quite a bit and while it may be impossible to smoke so much that you die, it can do other things that could cause you to die. For example, if you drink a lot of coffee with it, your blood pressure will lower as your heart rate rises, which can cause several problems.

It is also far less widely used than alcohol, so there is not quite as much truth to saying that it is less dangerous than alcohol. I also explained why it has NO real medicinal value.

i'll take them in the order they appear. most people would collapse a lung collapse long before smoking to lower their blood pressure that much barring any medical condition. pot would at most (and in a rare few cases) be a contributing factor (thats also technically not death by OD either). secondly, i'm so sure that's its used less than alcohol (i'll look up the numbers - i could be wrong here but i'd be really surprised). but even if it is used less, drunks are far more dangerous than potheads. thirdly, there's plenty of research supporting its medicinal value.

this aside, if the government isn't concerned about cigarettes or alcohol (which it shouldn't be - its people own choice what they do in this extent) paternalism should not be a basis for making laws. i don't see much bad coming from legalizing pot...amsterdam hasn't collapsed yet after all...

Joshua Johnson · 03-07-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SharinganEyes

precisely that's wrong already... people would just get the sickness just to get marijuana, like opium.. it just relief people of their pain, but that's the problem.. it's useful for a very short term. that's all. it's not that i dun allow, just that if there's a way to kick the out the marijuana after using, meaning after the sickness is gone, there will be some follow-up program to make sure the user isn't abusing the drug, then i wouldn mind at all..

besides, we already so much problems with drugs already- trafficking, and no doubt the rising number of users, why must we legalize another one?

I meant under intense care and careful medical perscriptions.

SharinganEyes · 03-07-2006, 11:19 PM

hmm, it's possible. but those really hooked to it will just do anything to get their hands on it..i still wouldn made it legal under medical purposes..

Khari · 03-07-2006, 11:20 PM

I dont care about the usage but.....you know that people over do things EVEN ADVIL!!!

SharinganEyes · 03-07-2006, 11:22 PM

erm, advil?

Joshua Johnson · 03-08-2006, 12:10 AM

Yeah. It's true. But I still say yes. Why not? It wouldn't be out in the open or anything.

Dosu · 03-08-2006, 10:16 AM

I look at it this way, if cigarteets are legal then pot should be legal, at least with pot ther''res a lot of fun to be had, what do cigaretes do? that right they just kill people, you'll never see a movie devoted to the lame ass art of smoking cigaretes, but pot is almost always funny.

03-07-2006, 06:13 PM	#17
Khari Gyokunyo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: You want it? Age: 21 Posts: 1,483 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oh how inspiring this is my questions have been answered our mod does teh pot :/ __________________ DSM'S Numer One Roomate

03-07-2006, 06:45 PM	#20
sheik S-Ranked Shinobi Join Date: May 2005 Location: on the planet earth in the good ol USA Age: 22 Posts: 2,696 Thanks: 315 Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts	When I first saw the title of the thread I was going to smack you with the der der derrrrrr stick! Well I feel it should stay illegal. I think they should ban a lot of stuff in this world. If they decided to ban something out of the blue then it would be hard to stop all of a sudden. People who want to smoke weed bad feels like they want that drug because it gives you a high you just can't shake off. It is like when you are turned on. That feel you get is from your body being druged by chemicals that effect your horomone. So technicly you are high or druged up so that is why you tend to do thing you wouldn't normally do when you are not turned on. That is how a person on Marijuana is like. __________________ What happened to Typhoon_4434? made by rasenganfox

03-07-2006, 07:10 PM	#21
flareofdragon Hunter-Nin Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,055 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Idiots to those that say ban everything. Lets say you ban alcohol. What do you think happens? People following the law? No. There will be a bunch of drug stores that sell alcohol. And guess what? The government cannot acknowledge the drug wars going on from specific people wanting to control a territory to sell their drugs. Second, Marijuana is a THC oriented drug. Obviously it messes around with your brain. But the effects are temporary and, if taken responsibly, hardly amounts to any damage (from current studies). Long term addicts will have memory problems, just like alcoholics have those anger problems. However, we all know that a sip of beer would not distort your vision (unless you are rock lee...). Responsibility is key. Thats about it. Marijuana should be slowly introduced. Illegalizing it is dumb (scientifically). __________________ freerice.com flareofdragon.deviantart.com

03-07-2006, 07:20 PM	#22
Khari Gyokunyo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: You want it? Age: 21 Posts: 1,483 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	meh I guess we just sit back and watch ppl screw themselves up all day __________________ DSM'S Numer One Roomate

03-07-2006, 11:19 PM	#26
SharinganEyes Chuunin Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Reading Come Come paradise Age: 25 Posts: 667 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hmm, it's possible. but those really hooked to it will just do anything to get their hands on it..i still wouldn made it legal under medical purposes.. __________________ creator- beautiful green beast

03-07-2006, 06:32 PM	#19
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03-07-2006, 07:49 PM	#23
ravengirl Academy Student Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	People screw themselves up in different ways every day. In my opinion we can't just live our lives in metaphorical "bubbles", sitting at home, wrapped in a blanket, staring at the wall. Everything you do in life has a risk, and if you know the risk that makes it less dangerous. Drink booze - wreck your liver, get jaundiced, possibly become dependent, die... Smoke cigarettes - wreck your lungs, get cancer, possibly become dependent die... Smoke pot (eat pot, whatever) - wreck your lungs, kill some brain cells, possibly become dependent, die Eat a burger - clog your arteries, get heart disease, possibly become dependent, die... Ya see, it can happen with nearly anything. So as long as its done responsibly, I say go ahead and smoke the ganj. But from my experience, drinking first, then smoking up = badness, with puke and such. But that can happen anyways from drinking your face off, or chain smoking. Your body, do what you will with it.

03-07-2006, 11:20 PM	#27
Khari Gyokunyo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: You want it? Age: 21 Posts: 1,483 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I dont care about the usage but.....you know that people over do things EVEN ADVIL!!! __________________ DSM'S Numer One Roomate

03-07-2006, 11:22 PM	#28
SharinganEyes Chuunin Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Reading Come Come paradise Age: 25 Posts: 667 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	erm, advil? __________________ creator- beautiful green beast

03-08-2006, 12:10 AM	#29
Joshua Johnson Genin Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Age: 20 Posts: 225 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah. It's true. But I still say yes. Why not? It wouldn't be out in the open or anything. __________________ Clubs ProGamers FC - Nint./RPG Avatar FC - Member Mist Shinobi FC - Member When you protect the ones important to you, your true strength will show. - Haku

03-08-2006, 10:16 AM	#30
Dosu Hunter-Nin Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: swan diving off the toungs of crippled giants. Age: 26 Posts: 1,223 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I look at it this way, if cigarteets are legal then pot should be legal, at least with pot ther''res a lot of fun to be had, what do cigaretes do? that right they just kill people, you'll never see a movie devoted to the lame ass art of smoking cigaretes, but pot is almost always funny. __________________ Your moves are fast....but ours surpass that with the speed of sound. -Dosu Kinuta- Honor is relfected in one's deeds, inaction bespeaks of cowardice -Yoshimitsu-

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