rasengangt

yeah that would be cool, the stories of how harry potter became a man after voldemort or something

diane_cheeze

that'll b cool... but unlikely i think..unless its fan fic.. lol

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rasengangt

yeah but im curious does harry stand any chance against voldy? I mean he got his ass kicked by snape, and honestly it seems like hes still a mediocre wizard

diane_cheeze

i think alone, harry doesnt stand a chance.. but in a group with his friends (or the spirits of his parents..haha) mayb there might b a good chance they'll win... harry still seems too young to b a genius magician...

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rasengangt

well hes going to have to fight voldemort one on one, thats his destiny. So how much can he possibly improve in one book? Cuz theres so much his friends can do to help

diane_cheeze

i think they'll b a shocker happening.. like when his parents came outta the wand to help him escape voldermot, that kind of shocker.. cos i dont believe or feel that harry can win voldermot on his own.. unless he has some secret power we have yet to see him unleash.

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*subrosa*

Well, there seems to be a lot of possibilities in your speculations, can't really say I've got a lot of things I can say to prove that you're wrong... except... if the Hogwarts hat were a Horcrux, anyone who would've touched it would've been cursed, or killed, or whatever, so there wouldn't really be much students left, so I figure this is a bit of a wide guess, I don't think the Hat is a Horcrux, but it might just be that there isn't a 7th Horcrux yet, because he was killed ont he night he wanted to make the seventh Horcrux, so maybe the last one still needs to be made, possible, right?
It could be that Harry and whatever others will have to stop him from making a 7th Horcrux, or wait until he tries, because when he doesn something like that, he might just be vulnerable for a moment and that could be the perfect chance to kill him.

On RAB... you could just be perfectly right, I thought of regulus myself, but because of what was told about him, I didn't expect him to be the one who had taken the Horcrux, but the name really does fit and none of the other names do... Knowing JKR it might just be a new person though, she's suprised us with things like that before... Though, with the end of the books so close in sight, I think it'd be meaningless to enter another new character...

Anyone ever thought of the possibility that this book might have a sad ending? It might just be that the 'good guys' aren't going to win at all, maybe they'll just die or something and Voldie will win... (yeah, but then again, maybe Luna will become powerful and Summon a few of her imaginary mystical beasts... not to insult Luna)
Ah well, I just hope the new book will be there soon^^

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rasengangt

@subrosa
i dunt think there will be a sad ending, because what kind of message do you think that would give to kids who are reading the harry potter series? JKR knows that a good portion of her readers are small kids, and i think if voldy prevails in the end it will scar them mentally

diane_cheeze

LOL... i think part of the ending will be sad.. but not to the extent that evil prevails.. prob some death surely! seeing as to how every recent book had a death..
but do u think voldy really dies, or he becomes a spirit that will float around for years to come till be regenerates himself?

subrosa_is Harry Potter your fav topic ever? cos it seems that u have loads of input on this...hehe

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rasengangt

hes gotta die, no one wants a cliffhanger ending or one of those horror movies where you see the guy is down, but you dont really know whether he is dead. Voldemort is going to die, cuz thats the whole plot of the book. 17 years of harry's life is dedicated to eliminating one man, and after all the prophesy states that harry has the power to vanquish the dark lord, and last time i checked vanquished means to get rid of completely. Maybe the sad part would be harry has to sacrifice himself in the process of killing voldemort, but i seriously doubt that. I'm leaning more towards the hypothetical situation of either ron or hermoine dying. If jkr kills of harry, she has absolutely zero chance of making a sequel to the potter books. Who knows if shes really sick of writing these books? Shes made millions from these books, and money makes anyone happy. If her other books suck because everyone only sees her as capable of writing potter fantasy stories, i certainly think that leaving herself the option of writing an extended potter book would be feasible. JKR seems to think ahead as demonstrated with her intricate plots in harry potter, and i think she would like to leave herself that option just in case all else fails. Ok ill stop rambling now

diane_cheeze

i dont think Ron or Hermonie will die.. that'll totally suck.. wonder HOW Harry will kill Voldermort.. a spell? surely THE DARK LORD wont die so easily?

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rasengangt

well, its not gonna be through dark arts that i can assure you. I think its not harry that will do the killing, but his actions will make the kill happen. Since harry seems uncapable of using dark magic, maybe he uses the light(like the patronus spell) to ward dementors towards voldemort and they suck his soul out. I think it will happen like voldemort and harry are duking it out for a while and voldy has the edge and then harry remembers all of the people who died blah blah blah and then thikns of the patronus spell. This is the only way i think harry can kill voldy, because i thikn voldy has no counter to the dementors. It seems like the patronus spell is casted by ppl with happy memories and good hearts and i dunt think voldy has this element but i dunno its hard to predict how voldy will die. But then again, why would the dementors suck out voldys soul if he hired them in the first place? I think maybe the plot might influence the dementors to become neutral and suck anyone, even the dark lord

diane_cheeze

mmmm..i think dementors voldy will b able to do patronus back on them..
i think it'll b something we've yet to see though.. hope it like blasts voldy into dust..
i think JKR may b havin a diff time thinkin of the ending too.. mayb thats y the 7th book is takin some time to b released..

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*subrosa*

woah... I go away for a little while and suddenly there's a compeltely new conversation! XD

Ok lets see... How will Harry kill off Voldy...
(To be honest I don't have a clue, so I'm going in to my usual guessing mode XD)

If love hurts Voldy and Harry's got plenty of it, couldn't Harry just pretend to forgive Voldy for what he has done and continue to say he doesn't mind anymore? If that'd work, he might be able to weaken Voldy to an extend that he is vulnerable for any other attacks.
A Patronus is of course a good idea, but it chases Dementors away, it doesn't redirect them to someone else (actually the origional idea was that the Dementors feed on the Patronus rather than on a human being but oh well...) and I'm pretty sure that if Voldy's really got the dementors on his side, he's got some counter curse against them, don't forget, he's a master of the Dark Arts and there are more ways to kill off a Dementor other than using a Patronus, which I'm sure he's unable to use, indeed because of lack of happy memories and because he's unable to feel love or anything similar to that.
I don't think Harry will kill Voldy with something as simple as a spell, Harry isn't good enough of a wizard to come up with something amazing and also use non-verbal spells... (only the Half-Blood Prince has so far been able to teach him non-verbal spells XD ... strangely enough XD) and something as a simple Dark Spell like Sectumsempra probably wouldn't work...

What I also wonder about... If Voldy's soul's been ripped to pieces, is it possible that killing him becomes easier or more difficult? With a normal human soul, you just need to kill, yanno, like shoot, pull a knife or whatever (or in the Wizarding World: use the Avada Kedavra) but when your soul has been ripped to pieces, would it be easier to die? Like it doesn't have a small enough space to rest in, so it's easier to be destroyed? Or would it be more difficult, because that little part of soul seems it as it's duty to keep his master alive and clamps on to the body more and more (sorry if I make it sound like a soul has a mind on it's own XD I'm just trying to explain what I mean XD) if the last part were true, I wouldn't want to be Voldy when he's about to be killed, it'd be more painful then being killed for real... I don't think that Voldy would've made the Horcuuxes if they were much easier to destroy that a real body...
But then again, I'm just speaking my mind, it might as well be that he's just as strong as a normal living being, I just doubt that a little piece of soul can have the same capacity as one who is 'whole and untarnished' like Dumbledore calls it

Lets see, anything I missed? Ah yeah...
The ending speculations XD
I've only heard that JKR wants to stop writing after book 7, but I might be terribly wrong...
JKR has made so many books and made quite some money in the process indeed (I do disagree that money makes anyone happy, I don't have money and I'm still considering myself very happy^^) but I could really imagine her wanting to quit, too much attention and stress...
If book 7 really is the last book, I think that Voldy really would die, but not because of the possibility of any sequels, I think it's stupid to make a sequel of an ended series... wouldn't you agree?

@Diane: I do like Harry Potter a lot, I've read every book like... 10 times or something, but the fact that I'm talking so much here is more because this is a very good subject to speculate about, 100 people could reply to this topic and every opinion would be different^^

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shurikenmaster

new topic~ do u agree w/ the harry potter like naruto claim?
ME. HELL YES!

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