Illegal Imigrants - Page 4

tyler2000 · 07-18-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ore-sama

It's not always as easy as you say. There are people who are for some reason forced to leave their country and not given the time to do the necessary preparations concerning papers and stuff.

Plus, in limited numbers, they're useful. You can exploit them and they got nowhere to turn to MWAHAHAHAHA. Just kidding, but it's a fact. Our handyman was Polish and illegal, and because of that, he was cheap: he had to do anything we paid him for or else how should an illegal person survive? Illegal Polish handymen are lovely, they work well, they work fast and they only ask one tenth of what a proffessional company would take.

Also, what if an illegal person pays taxes and lives a decent life? Illegal is often associated with criminal which is BS. I am being threatened with deportation because I don't have any real papers, too. But guess why? Because I wanted to become a normal, tax-paying, registered cityzen and let go of my diplomatic ID & immunity. I WANTED to become a citizen the correct way but once I requested citizenship, they lost my file and voilà, I'm illegal. So? I'm paying all my taxes and other bills, I'm trying to find decent work and I don't commit any crime. But they fucked up my file and lost my request. Great.
That's also how people can become illegal.

I think illegal immigrants should still be given a chance when they live up to certain expectations, such as decent conduct, looking for a decent job, speaking or learning the language of the country they enter, and a willingness to integrate and adapt.
Take the Belgian Moroccans for example. Most of them don't adapt. All they speak is Arabic and French, they treat Belgian women like muslim women and expect them to comply, they spit on the streets because in their culture, tissues are gross, they stay among themselves in ghettos and the crime rate is as high as a skyscraper in those areas. And those people are LEGAL. I'd rather see them deported than some peaceful illegal immigrants who behave the way they should. The Polish guy I mentioned above was decent, very decent. I am a punk and a bitch, but I'm still decent. We're both "illegal", but we're better people than at least a 1000 of those aforementioned Moroccans.

I see the problem of a million immigrants invading a country which only has so much space/jobs/funds. That's why I say, impose conditions. Or say "only so many immigrants a year".
But don't kick someone out just like that; many don't come to commit crimes. Many come to finally lead a life in peace. Not only fugitives. And some have lived illegally in the host country for so long they've built a life there. They found friends, maybe even a job. It'd be cruel to kick them out as long as they act according to the local rules.

You know, I could get a visit from the police any minute, telling me to leave. Leave where? How? Drop my life here and start over in Germany where real estate is unaffordable or in Israel, where more and more bombs kill more and more people? Great. What have I done to deserve that? I tell you what. Let the immigrant office lose my file. Yay.

The illegal immigrants need food correct? Well we have to make that food, and to make that food, we needoney, correct? How is the US gonna make all of this money to feed all of these people. The US is already overpopulated enough. More peole, more money. They come over and have kids, then that is just more people. We are falling apart.

07-18-2006, 04:06 PM

Tyler, it's not like we're handing out free food to illegal imigrants. They pay for their food doing extremely cheap labor in America. You can't apply for welfare if you're not a citizen, afterall.

kakashi^sensei^ · 08-11-2006, 04:01 PM

Just let the illegal immagrants become citizens of the U.S. Without them how are we suppose to get our burger king orders...

08-13-2006, 08:08 PM

as long as they are good, upstanding people, don't commit crimes, and make honest livings, sure, why not? at some point they should try to become citizens

ekang93922 · 08-18-2006, 02:24 AM

well i think they could stay as long as they pay their taxes, i think that sounds fair.... i mean they have a reason to come in USA..... it probably its hard to live in their country and they want to start a brand new lfe in USA..... well what i am saying is that goverment should give them a chance.... ^^

kluang · 08-18-2006, 02:47 AM

Well without them, building will not be made.... We need cheap labour we find them. It is a symbiotic relationship.

shadowclone · 08-18-2006, 03:12 AM

wow, the ignorance in this thread is astonishable. the only people with common sense are ore-same and miburo

kluang · 08-18-2006, 03:15 AM

Well since most of them involved in robbery, homocide, rape.... excuse me if I left my common sense in the freezer.

shadowclone · 08-18-2006, 12:15 PM

Dont be modest, you never had common sense to begin with =P
Where's this prove of yours. o_o

Corbenk · 08-18-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowclone

Dont be modest, you never had common sense to begin with =P
Where's this prove of yours. o_o

The fact that they are immigrants. I mean, everyone knows that:
Mexicans steal
Irish drink
asians are smart
Italians have big dicks
Black people are part of gangs.

It is common sense, AFADUR. EVERYONE knows racial profiling is completely valid and applies to ALL members of the race.

hokge · 08-18-2006, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbenk

The fact that they are immigrants. I mean, everyone knows that:
Mexicans steal
Irish drink
asians are smart
Italians have big dicks
Black people are part of gangs.

It is common sense, AFADUR. EVERYONE knows racial profiling is completely valid and applies to ALL members of the race.

It's true. I'm Irish and do vodka shots like water.

08-18-2006, 04:23 PM

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wow, the ignorance in this thread is astonishable. the only people with common sense are ore-same and miburo

You're too kind. ^^

And Hokge, damn dude. I know it's sometimes difficult to see sarcasm being portrayed through text, but Corbenk really laid it on thick there. >.>

cursesealer · 08-18-2006, 08:52 PM

Just fix up mexico. Make it nice to the point where mexican don't need to sneak their way here. Then they're happy and we lower the amount of foreginers coming in.

hokge · 08-20-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Miburo

You're too kind. ^^

And Hokge, damn dude. I know it's sometimes difficult to see sarcasm being portrayed through text, but Corbenk really laid it on thick there. >.>

Eveven if he was it's still true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbenk

The fact that they are immigrants. I mean, everyone knows that:
Mexicans steal
Irish drink
asians are smart
Italians have big dicks
Black people are part of gangs.

It is common sense, AFADUR. EVERYONE knows racial profiling is completely valid and applies to ALL members of the race.

Mexicans steal: They do. I've stolen with my Mexican friend John
Irish drink: Fuck yeah we do.
asians are smart: They'
re smart, but then again a lot of people are
Italians have big dicks: I'm gonna just trusr Corbenk on that one, and it's not impossibile.
Black people are part of gangs.: If you trying to say the black people aren't in gangs your retarded.

The point is if he said "so and so" then it wouldn't be true. I've seen all of those, other then the Italian one, all the time.

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Originally Posted by cursesealer

Just fix up mexico. Make it nice to the point where mexican don't need to sneak their way here. Then they're happy and we lower the amount of foreginers coming in.

-_-
Do you even know how bad Mexico is!? One of my best friends dad grew up there. His friend growing up was throwen into a oncoming train. Fixing such things much worse then that happen everyday. It would take years to fix.

Tom · 08-20-2006, 02:35 PM

I believe the United States have been too kind. I am all for George Bush's moves to toughen things up with the security.

07-18-2006, 04:06 PM	#47
Miburo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Illegal Imigrants Tyler, it's not like we're handing out free food to illegal imigrants. They pay for their food doing extremely cheap labor in America. You can't apply for welfare if you're not a citizen, afterall.

08-11-2006, 04:01 PM	#48
kakashi^sensei^ Genin Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the roman shop!!! Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants Just let the illegal immagrants become citizens of the U.S. Without them how are we suppose to get our burger king orders... __________________ One of the cool members of: NaruHina FC , Naruto Girls FC

08-13-2006, 08:08 PM	#49
LonelyNinja Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Illegal Imigrants as long as they are good, upstanding people, don't commit crimes, and make honest livings, sure, why not? at some point they should try to become citizens

08-18-2006, 02:24 AM	#50
ekang93922 Hunter-Nin Join Date: May 2006 Location: why do u even care? Age: 22 Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants well i think they could stay as long as they pay their taxes, i think that sounds fair.... i mean they have a reason to come in USA..... it probably its hard to live in their country and they want to start a brand new lfe in USA..... well what i am saying is that goverment should give them a chance.... ^^ Last edited by ekang93922; 08-18-2006 at 02:26 AM.

08-18-2006, 02:47 AM	#51
kluang One Punch Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,418 Thanks: 3,186 Thanked 4,659 Times in 2,099 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants Well without them, building will not be made.... We need cheap labour we find them. It is a symbiotic relationship. __________________ To err is human, to forgive, divine. Humans aren't machines... they have souls, feelings. They live, they die, they love, they hate... And yes, they even make mistakes..... When kluang finds you creepy and wrong then you are beyond horrible. He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Being Malaysian is about driving in a German car to an Indian restaurant for an Indonesian food, then travelling home, grabbing a Pakistani kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows on a Japanese TV. Because we have no originality.

08-18-2006, 03:12 AM	#52
shadowclone Genbu Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ebon Hawk Age: 26 Posts: 2,568 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants wow, the ignorance in this thread is astonishable. the only people with common sense are ore-same and miburo __________________ Video cards used to have way cooler names. Now they read like Star Wars robots. – Mark Wilson So true.

08-18-2006, 03:15 AM	#53
kluang One Punch Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,418 Thanks: 3,186 Thanked 4,659 Times in 2,099 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants Well since most of them involved in robbery, homocide, rape.... excuse me if I left my common sense in the freezer. __________________ To err is human, to forgive, divine. Humans aren't machines... they have souls, feelings. They live, they die, they love, they hate... And yes, they even make mistakes..... When kluang finds you creepy and wrong then you are beyond horrible. He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Being Malaysian is about driving in a German car to an Indian restaurant for an Indonesian food, then travelling home, grabbing a Pakistani kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows on a Japanese TV. Because we have no originality.

08-18-2006, 12:15 PM	#54
shadowclone Genbu Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ebon Hawk Age: 26 Posts: 2,568 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants Dont be modest, you never had common sense to begin with =P Where's this prove of yours. o_o __________________ Video cards used to have way cooler names. Now they read like Star Wars robots. – Mark Wilson So true.

08-18-2006, 08:52 PM	#58
cursesealer ANBU Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: At someplace somewhere with someone that somebody knew Age: 26 Posts: 1,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants Just fix up mexico. Make it nice to the point where mexican don't need to sneak their way here. Then they're happy and we lower the amount of foreginers coming in. __________________ *member of the Akatsuki FC* My apprentice in training: naruto_the_demon_fox One day, when I have enough money, I shall buy all of the world's belguim waffles and pancakes.

08-20-2006, 02:35 PM	#60
Tom DRAMA!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Illinois Age: 23 Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Illegal Imigrants I believe the United States have been too kind. I am all for George Bush's moves to toughen things up with the security. __________________

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