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Old 12-15-2011, 01:47 AM   #16
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Re: One Piece 650

I'm glad the Straw Hats caught Caribou. That mofo was freaky.

Plus, I'm glad Hody and his crew are old-ass men, no longer to really cause trouble.

I think the biggest shock of this chapter was the fight Aokiji had with Akainu for the Fleet Admiral position. I had this bad feeling that Akainu would win the fight; the Straw Hats cannot catch a break. The New World is gonna be alot of fun, now that Akainu's running the Marines.

As for Aokiji, wouldn't it be sweet if he joined the Straw Hats?!?!

And, as the others mentioned, it looks like we'll finally meet Big Mam. Let's hope Nami still has that Vivre Card that Lola gave her back in Chapter 489.
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:51 PM   #17
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glad that we got a glimpse into whats going on with the marines hq, kinda sets up something in the future with aokiji.....Good chapter, it was the end of the arc but still got you alot of info or things to come... big mom
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:15 PM   #18
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Awesome chapter.

So its possible now that Zoro and Sanji have Kenbunshoku Haki.
I think they should have more, atleast zoro is hinted to have all three.

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Didn't read the other comments yet but my guess is that aokiji joined revolutionary army.
i think that is improbable, he doesn't seem the type to be a revolutionary just because he doesn't like the current Supreme Admiral's way of doing things.

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There is at least one more combination of DF's that is a must have... the Gomu Gomu no Mi and Buggys DF as they make u invincible at both bullets and swords.....
Any logia (except for yami yami) would take care of both these things, I'm pretty sure gomu gomu wont figure in BB's top 100 list..

Awesome chapter though, but I do agree (with someone above) that two admiral's fighting over a position is a pretty stupid and barbaric way of sorting things out especially if the position in question is the supreme commander of an organization like the navy. None of the higher ups should have approved of it.

As expected BB has pretty much succeded WB and WB pirates seem to have scattered or lost power or both since they were not even mentioned. I hope any more yonkou fights/faceoffs are not offpaneled..
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Old 12-15-2011, 05:44 PM   #19
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but I do agree (with someone above) that two admiral's fighting over a position is a pretty stupid and barbaric way of sorting things out especially if the position in question is the supreme commander of an organization like the navy. None of the higher ups should have approved of it.
There was no way around it when you think about it.

Aokiji had the backing of influential marines, but Akainu was the higher ups choice for obvious reasons. We have seen how far Akainu will go to enforce his brand of justice, so a battle was probably the only option Aokiji had.

A person's word is something of great value in OP. Aokiji spared the SHs due to the agreement he had with Luffy when they fought in the long-ring islands, and Kuma didn't go after the crew due to his deal with Zoro.

As Jimbei said, both parties had to commit to the outcome no matter what. Aokiji bet it all on that fight, and unfortunately he lost, and then kept his word and ceased opposing Akainu. It was for the best, there is no way the Marines would function with those 2 standing on opposite sides and always clashing.
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There was no way around it when you think about it.

Aokiji had the backing of influential marines, but Akainu was the higher ups choice for obvious reasons. We have seen how far Akainu will go to enforce his brand of justice, so a battle was probably the only option Aokiji had.

A person's word is something of great value in OP. Aokiji spared the SHs due to the agreement he had with Luffy when they fought in the long-ring islands, and Kuma didn't go after the crew due to his deal with Zoro.

As Jimbei said, both parties had to commit to the outcome no matter what. Aokiji bet it all on that fight, and unfortunately he lost, and then kept his word and ceased opposing Akainu. It was for the best, there is no way the Marines would function with those 2 standing on opposite sides and always clashing.
Well I kinda get what you want to say here but it does not apply for a military organisation as the navy where discipline is assumed to be paragon. It would make sense for say marco and jozu to fight it out for WB's place but not Aokiji and Akainu. Sengoku did what he could i.e. recommended Aokiji, if the higher ups didn't take his advice then Aokiji could have gone and tried to convince them of his candidacy, like Danzo did.

Think of it this way, Danzo challenging Kakashi for the hokage title just after the konoha destrution would be pretty stupid. This is a military organisation we are talking abt, the orders of the higher ups are absolute, you are not supposed to talk back just because you dont like your orders, you just stfu and deal with it.
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This is a military organisation we are talking abt, the orders of the higher ups are absolute, you are not supposed to talk back just because you dont like your orders, you just stfu and deal with it.
So, sacrificing your beliefs and not fighting for what is right are below orders ? Fuck that shit.

Akainu is willing to sacrifice his own men, and innocent people in order to enforce "justice". We saw this during the Ohara Buster Call when he ordered the evacuation ship destroyed, killing pretty much everyone else from Ohara. He murdered a fellow marine because he tried to flee the battlefield, when the man just wanted to live in order to go back to his family. How can the marines claim to stand for justice, and on the side of the people, when this sort of behavior goes on ?

That is one of the things that Tagashi and Coby pointed out during the war. The marines were no better than the pirates. Aokiji was right to challenge Akainu when his protests went nowhere. Much better than just conforming and handing over the reins to Akainu without a fight. The marines are stronger now under his leadership, but at what cost ?

They might be a ruthless bunch now, instilling fear on the public instead of relief.
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