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Old 06-19-2006, 10:16 AM   #1
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The powerful Hyuuga clan.

I was thinking lately of how the sharingan evolved from the byakugan. Since the sharingan has 3 powerful jutsus

1) Tsukuyomi - The doujutsu used against Kakashi and Sasuke.
2) Amaterasu - The fire jutsu used to burn Jiraiya's summon.
3) Susanoo - Apparently a taijutsu since the first is nin and the second is gen.

So since this bloodline evolved from the byakugan, wouldnt the byakugan also have powerful jutsus that have not been introduced so far?

And wouldnt there be a power-up for Neji like the mangekyou sharingan? Will we see these jutsus? Will Neji be the first to unlock this special power?
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Old 06-19-2006, 10:50 AM   #2
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

Though it would be nice, neji/hinata or any of the hyuugas arent main characters. So even though its a awesome idea it isnt likely. They cant have anyone who could rival the sharingan, hence the feared/cursed.
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:30 PM   #3
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

The hyuuga's eyes should be improved. I'm sure Neji has some awesome moves waiting to be annouced since it has been 2 and a half years. His Byakugan does need an upgrade to keep up with so much competition i.e sasuke.
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The hyuuga's eyes should be improved. I'm sure Neji has some awesome moves waiting to be annouced since it has been 2 and a half years. His Byakugan does need an upgrade to keep up with so much competition i.e sasuke.
i agree, if you remember an episode where neji and hinatas father were training together. maybe hinatas father knows something about the byakugan, and will teach him it.
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

Well most ppl think kakashi has the 3rd form of the Mk.. but we are still blurry on that area.

Anyways just because the shirangan is powerful and it came from the byakugan doesnt mean they the hyuuga can be as powerful as well or that the hyuuga would have some super form like the MK. Evolution doesnt work that way and if anyone took biology they would know that all organisms start off from only a few species. The whale is actually linked to a bat if we go back through million of years and they appear to have nothing in common. the same can be said about the two clans and their eyes. We dont know when the shirangan was formed so it could have changed ALOT by now and may not have much to do with the byakugan anymore.
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Well most ppl think kakashi has the 3rd form of the Mk.. but we are still blurry on that area.

Anyways just because the shirangan is powerful and it came from the byakugan doesnt mean they the hyuuga can be as powerful as well or that the hyuuga would have some super form like the MK. Evolution doesnt work that way and if anyone took biology they would know that all organisms start off from only a few species. The whale is actually linked to a bat if we go back through million of years and they appear to have nothing in common. the same can be said about the two clans and their eyes. We dont know when the shirangan was formed so it could have changed ALOT by now and may not have much to do with the byakugan anymore.

you evole depending on you sitution ofusily it wasent good enough or they wouldnt have it, sharingan is the power up from byakugan. im thinknig that madara was from the hyuuga clan and found some way to change his eyes but who knows. well have to wait a few years when the manga covers this. also look at all of the trait they share compare sasuke eyes to neji the only difference is that neji are blue. both are intelligant, they both have a protective barrior and oth where rookie of the year. not to mention sasuke and neji carrie high traits of there clan i mean thats to simliar even there evouled from them. and if your rember right sasuke never fought neji so he never copied his foce feild he did that on his own.also its a bloodline limit so there just haves to be a relation between the to.
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

Madara was most likely involved with the making of Sharingan, and/or it's cursed-ness. I think it's from him that the Mangekyou came to be, and that Byakugan has not a chance to have a special power-up. He probably made the Sharingan, and was exiled from the Hyuuga, and he formed the Uchiha. But that's all in theory.

No, I don't think they have a power-up of the such, nor that it's probable/possible. I hit the choice 'hell no.' Even though I'd only mean no...since there is a very very small chance that it could be a twist in the story line.
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Madara was most likely involved with the making of Sharingan, and/or it's cursed-ness. I think it's from him that the Mangekyou came to be, and that Byakugan has not a chance to have a special power-up. He probably made the Sharingan, and was exiled from the Hyuuga, and he formed the Uchiha. But that's all in theory.

No, I don't think they have a power-up of the such, nor that it's probable/possible. I hit the choice 'hell no.' Even though I'd only mean no...since there is a very very small chance that it could be a twist in the story line.
man high five agreed with everything you just posted.

i mean the only way byk could power up is to become sharingan, like i said earlyer sharingan is the power up for byk
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

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you evole depending on you sitution ofusily it wasent good enough or they wouldnt have it, sharingan is the power up from byakugan. im thinknig that madara was from the hyuuga clan and found some way to change his eyes but who knows. well have to wait a few years when the manga covers this. also look at all of the trait they share compare sasuke eyes to neji the only difference is that neji are blue. both are intelligant, they both have a protective barrior and oth where rookie of the year. not to mention sasuke and neji carrie high traits of there clan i mean thats to simliar even there evouled from them. and if your rember right sasuke never fought neji so he never copied his foce feild he did that on his own.also its a bloodline limit so there just haves to be a relation between the to.
evolution does occur depending on the enviorment at the moment but that isnt all, there is mutation, genetic disorders and such that may have formed the hsirangan, someone may have even altered a hyuuga's genes.

Also a comparison made between sasuke and neji cannot be used since they are only a vcery very small porportion of the entire uchiha and hyuuga clan, statistics must be taken from all the members and general conclusions would have to be made. It is not all genetics too, in sasukes and neji's case it might have been because they suffered a lost of family by another member of the family, which is why they both worked so hard to achieve a goal and became quite powerful, This is not all of course since the enviorment can have a whole effect on ones development.

"sasuke never fought neji so he never copied his foce feild he did that on his own" I dont get it? are you trying to say sasuke can use the Kaiten??

Also the shirangan and bykugan are WAY different in many ways but also simlair in other ways. Im sure you know the only difference isnt the color..
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

Here's something for statistics then: There's a hidden scroll about the Sharingan. It's the most popular bloodline in the series. Naruto's rival has it. One of the most powerful ninjas out there(Itachi) has it. Uchiha Madara, known to even Kyuubi, was a very powerful ninja in history.

Byakugan: Powerful clan with attacks that target the user's chakra flow and internal organs.

Nothing supports Byakugan being possibly a form of superiority grown besides in field of vision. And the fact that we haven't seen anything even close to being superior to the regular Byakugan, no difference in attacks. Where the Sharingan on the other hand has.

There hasn't been anything special about them at all that would make someone stand out as 'different' from the rest.

EDIT: Unless perhaps the Sharingan is in fact the unlocked part of Byakugan, and Madara took even that evolution a step further. That's the one thing I can think of that would involve something unlocked in Byakugan.
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Old 06-19-2006, 10:39 PM   #11
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

I would have to say that its possible.
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

i'm sure that there are lotsa new jutsus we've yet to see.... so there's no doubt that genius neji may unlock some new jutsu... though i rather it b hinata so more pple will respect her for future clan leader.. .hehe
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

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evolution does occur depending on the enviorment at the moment but that isnt all, there is mutation, genetic disorders and such that may have formed the hsirangan, someone may have even altered a hyuuga's genes.

Also a comparison made between sasuke and neji cannot be used since they are only a vcery very small porportion of the entire uchiha and hyuuga clan, statistics must be taken from all the members and general conclusions would have to be made. It is not all genetics too, in sasukes and neji's case it might have been because they suffered a lost of family by another member of the family, which is why they both worked so hard to achieve a goal and became quite powerful, This is not all of course since the enviorment can have a whole effect on ones development.

"sasuke never fought neji so he never copied his foce feild he did that on his own" I dont get it? are you trying to say sasuke can use the Kaiten??

Also the shirangan and bykugan are WAY different in many ways but also simlair in other ways. Im sure you know the only difference isnt the color..

the reason i compared these to is because carry bloodline at a high leval. i cant compare all of them considering most of the uchias are dead.

also why i said that sasuke made a barrior was to imply that there are blood related sharingan cant copy bloodline limits so it makes since to me there a ver very close bloodline, im not saing sasuke can youse it to the power of neji but i am saing is there share some of the same bloodline and alot of the same traits as well YES i know the color of there eye isnt the only differnce. im saing look at the shape of there eyes there similar.
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

Here is my opinion, Unlike the shirangan that actually has jutsu as well as abilities which the user can take advantage of, the bykugan only has a set of abilities and it is up the the user to form the jutsu them selves.

For example, neji could see the internal chakra system and most likely taught some things about it, and using that he learned how to release chakra from all his pours, creating kaiten (altho that was already thought of before from other hyuuga)

Another example is how hinata used the bykugan to development her defence thingy..

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the reason i compared these to is because carry bloodline at a high leval. i cant compare all of them considering most of the uchias are dead.
This is the exact reason why we cannot conclude anything about the uchiha since the only one we have alot of knowledge about is sasuke, the rest is just general knowledge.
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Re: The powerful Hyuuga clan.

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This is the exact reason why we cannot conclude anything about the uchiha since the only one we have alot of knowledge about is sasuke, the rest is just general knowledge.[/QUOTE]

did read what i said. would you compare the weakest users of the clan no your campare the users who carry the bloodline strongly. what would be the point to compare all of them anyway. and im not concluding anthing. i said welll have to wait a few years tell the manga covers it. its even compare and contrast imo.
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