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Old 08-20-2006, 07:40 PM   #91
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There is no rank between Jounin and Kage according to the manga and databook.
If there was one, Kakashi would be there anyway.
And IIRC Gaara was a Kage fighting on his Sand homeland (not to mention with a demon that has the ability to control all of that sand) not a random jounin.



What the hell are you talking about, the rank between kage and jounin is s-rank now it is an unofficial & yet official rank.Usually it is given to a person when they abandon the village and have skills that surpass that of a jounin.The case where this is not true is when it comes to the legendary three, they were given the rank of s-class while they were still in the village.



And whats with this guy talking about, saying that a fullpowered deidara could kill itachi thats a highly inprobable theory.Have you forgotten that itachi has the regular sharingan and on top of that the mongekyou sharingan
allowing him to use one of the most powerfull genjutsus exsisting the tsukuyomi and a ninjutsu thats flames is as hot as the sun and burn for seven days and seven nights the amaterasu(which burned the throat of the rock frog who breaths fire).Now we know hoe the sharingan percieves movement itachi knows all of deidara's tricks and will see every thing coming at him.Plus there is no telling how many jutsus itachi knows that right there puts him in a different catagory.Diedara is an excellent shinobi i admit that but itachi wins hands down.
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Old 08-20-2006, 09:31 PM   #92
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What the hell are you talking about, the rank between kage and jounin is s-rank now it is an unofficial & yet official rank.Usually it is given to a person when they abandon the village and have skills that surpass that of a jounin.The case where this is not true is when it comes to the legendary three, they were given the rank of s-class while they were still in the village.
S-rank is given to criminals according to the crimes they commited. Zabuza was given S-rank because he tried (yet failed) killing the Mizukage. So it's really not related to their strenght. Even a missing genin who tried to kill a Kage will become a S-criminal.

S-criminal isn't a ninja rank.


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And whats with this guy talking about, saying that a fullpowered deidara could kill itachi thats a highly inprobable theory.Have you forgotten that itachi has the regular sharingan
The sharingan can not figure out or copy Deidara abilities which are most likely bloodline limit or something else uncopiable (cyborg?).
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and on top of that the mongekyou sharingan allowing him to use one of the most powerfull genjutsus exsisting the tsukuyomi and a ninjutsu thats flames is as hot as the sun and burn for seven days and seven nights the amaterasu(which burned the throat of the rock frog who breaths fire
Deidara survived THREE mangekyou attacks on a row (which is Itachi's limit) so it's possible for his to survive the mangekyou and kill a passed out Itachi.
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Now we know hoe the sharingan percieves movement itachi knows all of deidara's tricks and will see every thing coming at him.
I doubt Itachi can see coming something that even Gaara's fastest sand autoshield could not "see" coming.

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Old 08-21-2006, 03:46 AM   #93
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S-rank is given to criminals according to the crimes they commited. Zabuza was given S-rank because he tried (yet failed) killing the Mizukage. So it's really not related to their strenght. Even a missing genin who tried to kill a Kage will become a S-criminal.

S-criminal isn't a ninja rank.


The sharingan can not figure out or copy Deidara abilities which are most likely bloodline limit or something else uncopiable (cyborg?).
Deidara survived THREE mangekyou attacks on a row (which is Itachi's limit) so it's possible for his to survive the mangekyou and kill a passed out Itachi.
I doubt Itachi can see coming something that even Gaara's fastest sand autoshield could not "see" coming.
kakashis mangekyou attacks i most regretablely admit was absolutely lousy and itachis mangekyou is highly accutrate (Deidara might be able to dogde one and at most two attacks but three is impossible)
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:57 AM   #94
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Re: Akatsuki ranks

Hate to say, but Zabuza is a great shinobi. He is one of 7 swords nin of mist. He is stronger than that double bladed katana user, Rai something. If Kakashi vs Zabuza will take a long time. He is a S-rank, but not good enough for Aka.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:05 PM   #95
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And if i'm not mistaken deidara only survived one mks attack because the others were clones.
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And if i'm not mistaken deidara only survived one mks attack because the others were clones.
1st Deidara's arm is blowed up
2nd Deidara dodge it (this one was aiming his head)
3rd Clone

Sure but if Deidara could fool Kakashi in attacking a clone, he can certainly do so for Itachi. Kakashi is no dumb and he even fooled Itachi with one clone just before the odoma rasengan.

So I reckon Itachi would likely waste his MS on a clone too.

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Kakashi wasn't fooled he was trying to save team gai and team seven even if it was a clone it still posed a threat to them.
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:29 PM   #98
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Sorry Sasori>Deidira There's no going around that.
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:51 AM   #99
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Kakashi wasn't fooled he was trying to save team gai and team seven even if it was a clone it still posed a threat to them.
Sure but he still thought he was the real.
Everyone left thinking Deidara was dead.
So he did was fooled ^^;
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3:Hidan-his sacrifice jutsu would kill the others.
what sacrifice jutsu?
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6:blue haired member
no way of knowing that
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8:Kakazu
again no way of knowing that

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9:Tobi-Only got in because sasori died
really so what you saying is because orochimaru left ANYONE could join (konohamru in akatsuki cloak)

tobi has to be powetrful or esle they wouldnt even bother to let him tag along
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