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Old 02-29-2012, 09:12 PM   #76
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8000, 9000...
My point still stands.

Also about NF? NB is worse.
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:15 PM   #77
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Re: Naruto 576

maybe after all thsi hype is done we will finally get to see that VOTE fight to see if it's justified.. I just hope kishi remembers all these powers he's given hashirama .. cause a battle that epic he should have used them all

and what is NF and NB ??
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:20 PM   #78
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^^^this is way way off! Hashiramas abilities are being hyped, but hes still nothing but hype at this point.
What's wrong with using hype to validate whether someone's "that" good? Kabuto said he was the best since the sage and Madara said people called him the strongest. What's wrong with believing that? This Madara is now, probably omnipotent because he has his original abilities + the 1st's+Rinnegan+he's a fuckin' zombie. The Madara that fought the 1st wasn't near that powerful.

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65 year old sarutobi is stronger then hashirama so enough already.
No he's not. The 1st was limited in that battle and you know it. Does Kabuto having a better grasp over Edo Tensei mean anything?

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If hasirama was the strongest then why did he need his wifes help to beat madara? And madara was only trying to steal some DNA which he succeded, not trying to kill hashirama.

The 1st took control of the Kyuubi from Madara, what he chose to do with it was up to him. Prove to me that Madara wasn't trying to kill the 1st as well. Pretty sure you'd have a tough time with that one, considering in this chapter, he said he fought the 1st to the death.

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Anyways, if really u look at it madara won because he achieved his goal while hashirama gave everything he had, his wife assisted by sealing the kyuubi to help fight madara and all he did was wound madara which was just reversed by an Izanagi most likely.
More like, Madara lost the fight and is attempting to win the war. His revolt against Konoha failed. It was a loss. If he had won, Konoha would have been crumpled, but instead, he took his crippled ass on somewhere. Being left for dead isn't a victory over the 1st.
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:23 PM   #79
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Re: Naruto 576

Well this chapter just further proved that Kishi is oblivious to whatever happened in Part 1.
1. Edo Zombies regenerate.
2. Hashirama could heal himself without seals.

Someone may want to help me out with this...
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Re: Naruto 576

It isn't entirely all hype.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-404-12...apter-399.html
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Re: Naruto 576

ok, so hashirama is hyped beyond belief...

and while i tend to agree with the hashirama > minato, going be singular jutsus, honestly, which jutsu can defeat/trump the death god jutsu? (serious question here)
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Kill him before he has a chance to use it? Even if he does use it he dies anyway so..
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Orochimaru trumped DG.
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Orochimaru trumped DG.
with what.... honestly, nothing is coming to mind yet...

wait, now i remember.

i would argue that timing is the weakness of that jutsu, but if the caster can complete that jutsu? i mean, minato needed kushina's help to seal away half of kurama's chakra. so the timing part is a huge, glaring weakness.

not to mention, if memory serves correct, sarutobi stated that while casting the jutsu, his chakra levels were low and wasn't quite sure if he had enough to finish the jutsu, hence him cutting only the arms. and then the only way orochimaru got around the effects of that jutsu was by his faux immortality jutsu.

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^^^this is way way off! Hashiramas abilities are being hyped, but hes still nothing but hype at this point.

65 year old sarutobi is stronger then hashirama so enough already.

If hasirama was the strongest then why did he need his wifes help to beat madara? And madara was only trying to steal some DNA which he succeded, not trying to kill hashirama.
Anyways, if really u look at it madara won because he achieved his goal while hashirama gave everything he had, his wife assisted by sealing the kyuubi to help fight madara and all he did was wound madara which was just reversed by an Izanagi most likely.

Although madara lost an eye he gained the power to live for a hell of a long time with hashiramas vitality and gained Mokuton plus the highest quality of physical energy.
You refused to look at the truth.
A. His wife is nowhere near the battlefield

Nobody says she was there

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v53/c500/5.html

Hashirama wrestle the control for kyuubi from Madara and manage to control him.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c568/8.html

Hashirama told kurama he cannot let him go free

After that the wife seal good old kurama inside her

He defeats Madara who gains a portion of his power and awaken the rinnengan before the final blow.

http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/560/15

For all we know Madara probably use Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique on himself and set it to revive him after the battle.

For the battle against the third, other then capturing and immobilizing him did the first and second did anything else?

No they did not. they just stand there, cast bringer of darkness throw kunai and got captured. they don't go all out, if they do the fucking cube will be broken.

Your logic doesnt make sense. KYF. You Minato is the best is no longer valid but you keep holding on to a shattered ideology of yours.

Let it go KYF. Let it go. Embrace the FAKTZ that Hashirama is much much much better then any hokages.
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with what.... honestly, nothing is coming to mind yet...
With a sword to Hiruzen's back while fighting him off in the whole tug of war aspect of the jutsu itself. Point is Orochimaru trumped DG you can STFU now.
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With a sword to Hiruzen's back while fighting him off in the whole tug of war aspect of the jutsu itself. Point is Orochimaru trumped DG you can STFU now.

that's not a trump... more of a backdoor escape jutsu.... an oh holy fudgecicles batman, i'm gonna die unless i kill the old geezer who's trying to kill me first, but i won't have my hands so i'll just take over another body jutsu.

arguments can be made pro and con about which singular jutsu is best. without knowing the author's intent, direction, and full story, it's left up to fans and trolls to argue about.

but simply put, the death god jutsu has the soul of hashirama, tobirama, sarutobi, and minato in it. and something tells me by the end of this manga, it might possibly hold tsunade and madarra's souls as well.
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and what is NF and NB ??
Just others forums talking about naruto/manga stuff as this...
Nothing to shout about..
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" Weak people are ugly, Weak Senju are even more ugly."

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The 1st was limited in that battle and you know it. Does Kabuto having a better grasp over Edo Tensei mean anything?
Except... Oro set them into murder death kill mode to rid them of emotional connections. Kabuto did the exact same thing with Zabuza.

Fact is Kishi just fucked up.

When Oro summoned the caskets, Hiruzen wasn't even concerned about either Hashirama or Tobirama. He was just worried about Minato.

Sarutobi was known as The Professor for being able to use ALL of the jutsu that existed in Konoha and also nicknamed God of Shinobi. Iruka even called him the strongest Hokage in history.

Then we were told Rikudo was the "real" God of Shinobi.
Then we were told Minato was the greatest shinobi that Konoha ever produced.
Then we were told Hashirama was the most powerful Hokage.
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