Human Rasengan

Yea but who would give up the ability of using their jutsu in order to do that.. I am betting that it has a limit like it can't be used on the caster.. since it's the opposite of Izanagi

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Vengeance

Just to point something out incase no one caught it. Itachi already activated Izanami.

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Human Rasengan

Yea which is why I think he's gonna change something in his past to change the current outcome. Only other reason I can see for a flashback in the middle of his jutsu.

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Gamabunta

Vengeance i know what you mean, don't doubt that it can't be used on Sasuke. But just between the two i pick kabuto as more plausible choice, imo. To answer your question on why not discussing that.

Human Rasengan

Yea I think it's safe to say Izanami isn't being used against Sasuke.. Itachi destroyed the Koto- crow and is leaving Sasuke's salvation up to Naruto so placing Sasuke under this jutsu to change his destiny is not gonna happen.. now him using it on Kabuto to stop edo tensei which is the goal is the more plausable choice.

Itachi already activated the jutsu and Kabuto went into backstory mode.. so I think this jutsu has the ability to change who a person becomes..byt altering somethign in their past.

Now the reason no Uchiha didn't use it to change leadership of the leaf village is they might have a understanding of the butterfly effe4ct. If Madara was leader the leaf and it's ninja might all be different more viscious hell many might not even live due to the fact that Madara was a cold hearted killer.

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Vengeance

Based on what?

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Human Rasengan

Based on the fact that the Koto crow ..Itachi destroyed it .. and the redeeming of Sasuke he's leavign up to Naruto .. and the fact that he's using his Soosanoo to protect Sasuke.. based on these thigns I dont see Izanami being used on Sasuke

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto

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Vengeance

Koto crow has nothing to do with the way I'm suggesting it be used. So I ask again based on what?

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Human Rasengan

well itachi said it can decide destiny so I'm sure it changes somethign .. anyway.. what way do you think it;'s going to be used.. I think it can alter the past and restructure a persons life or lead them to a certain outcome.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto

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Vengeance

Dude re-read my previous post where I mention how I think it could be used. Not repeating myself for the 5th time.

Edit: Here I'll make it easier for you.

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Human Rasengan

oh ok .. thats some scarlet witch proabability altering hex power shit with a Sasuke safeguard so he doesn't get harmed.. that might work but the random factor leaves soo much to chance

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

This is all way too much for an Izanami of MS level IMO. Danzous Izanagi was basic SG, but powered by hashiramas chakra meaning its strength shouldn't be too far off from an MS level IMO.

If itachi casts the Izanami genjutsu then it will be just for an instant or two most likely since he doesn't have hashiramas chakra to prolong the time of the jutsu. And it should just be an opposite of what Izanagi was capable of which would mean Itachi will turn an illusion into reality, at the present time just as danzou turned sasuke real attacks and his death into illusions.

Granted I think the EMS and RG level Izanami may be capable of much more though. I mean Tobi and madara could've very well been using Izanami to put nagato on the path he was on including sasuke and naruto as well. They could have been changing destiny of the ninja world for about 50 years now with the potential of this jutsu with something like the EMS and RG.

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Human Rasengan

somethign as simple as him allowing Kabuto's parents ot live could alter th path he has traveled..thus turning this nobody into someoen ..but even that might not prevent him form becoming evil and learnign edo tensei

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

Honestly think about it... Izanami changing the enemies past to alter his present destiny is too broken and hax compared to Izanagi. Izanagi can't go and change the past to rewrite the users destiny, but merely take an attack of the enemy, turn it into a genjutsu thus making the death of the user by that jutsu an Illusion.

With Izanami being a pair with Izanagi and its opposite. Theres no logical reason for believing the jutsu will change the enimies past in order to effect his destiny in the present. Only logical way to predict that is off of Kishi randomness and inconsistency with some jutsu. However, the SG jutsu haven't been so inconstant as for there to be such a great a difference in power between Izanagi and Izanami.

Also, IMO, I don't see itachi ending Edo tensai because it would end him and madara making the kages battle over without a real conclusion. Well, unless kishi makes an ass pull and has Madara live because hes using Izanagi to survive if the caster ends the jutsu, but itachi who has something to reveal will die without revealing to sasuke what he has to say.

So yea... Izanami is most likely just an Illusion made real so that Itachi can use the sword of totsuka to seal kabuto away thus keeping the Edo tensai from going on for eternity. And Somehow itachi and madara have to survive Edo tensai being released unless it just doesn't happen at all.

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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA

Vengeance

How is it to much when all Itachi is doing is defining a single moment as an act of fate/destiny? Everything else leading up to that moment is simply actions that lead up to the inevitable conclusion.

He already casted it. Also what I'm talking about is an instant. It just doesn't play out right away.

Danzou didn't do anything to Sasuke's attack Izanagi was casted on his own body. He made it so if he would have died he didn't. Changing his destiny so to speak. Izanami is different in that it's casted on someone else instead of the user. In the instance of being casted on Sasuke it would make him able to stop Kabuto when he originally wouldn't have been able by changing a set of actions that would eventually allow him to do so.

Eye levels have nothing to do with this. Also Itachi using Izanami on Sasuke to both protect him & stop Kabuto plays on Itachi's ideology of self sacrifice.

HRs scarlet witch analogy is kind of what I'm going with here. Glad at least someone is grasping the concept of what I'm trying to describe.

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