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Old 06-27-2012, 03:14 PM   #61
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Fuck this shit that dan crap pissed me off .. I was waiting on some great reveal about their relationship liek they had a child or some shit but nothing .. just a chakra refill and Tsunade avoids a good death.. that's twice now.. who the fuck she think she is.. sorry but your princess is in another castle. next time she is about to die I wont fucking care..

Someoen waske me up when my naruto is senju theory starts taking some traction..

fucking shit bitch damn!!

Madara gets to skip the ride on hale bop you could see it coming but this was a total cop out. I take it the only way he can be defeated is to be sealed and the main character doesn't know any seals so that means a traing session is in order.

All this is is kishi trying to find direction to keep the manga going .. i can't blame him tho there is plenty money in Naruto but I'm questioning whether I want to be aroudn week after week to see it to the end!
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Someoen waske me up when my naruto is senju theory starts taking some traction..
Okay, so we'll never wake you up again. Sleep tight!

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Go to Chapter 590 discussion thread and see the post i made. Kishi isn't trying to find direction to pander the manga, he now stated that he's now rushing towards the end of the manga.
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^Agreed but at this point what character would be justfiable to the fans in terms of strength?

Tobi is strong, we all know that, he is able to use Sharingan, now has Rinnegan, While people take guesses like Obito, Shisui, and etc. I don't think any of them would really make me say okay yeah makes sense. None of them should be on that strength level.
But tobi is not any stronger then itachi, pain, sasuke, naruto or kabuto... His true strength is strategy and controlling people... manipulating them into doing his work for him.... that and tobi from the get go has been a defensive fighter except against minato and konan... So, tobi being someone like kagami, shisui, or the elder son of RS is fine... IMO...
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Wait he hasn't finished the handseals yet, its possible the Kages can interrupt him. No matter the person, they're handsigns shouldn't be faster than Raichu whom should be able t get to him before the final seal, or at least thats what they've been fronting about this Dude's speed.
LOL. He's doing hand seals for something else. He had already restored himself here.

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So what's going on with Anko? Wasn't she supposed to be with Kabuto?
Seemed like he drained her chakra for Oro's chakra from her cursed seal then tossed her away.

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I am really surprised people do not think Tobi is RS or a third secret son of RS, I feel like that would be the only way for me to feel Tobi's strength justified to be honest. No other Uchiha should be that strong and the only other option would another Zetsu or something and thats lame.
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Tobi is strong, we all know that, he is able to use Sharingan, now has Rinnegan, While people take guesses like Obito, Shisui, and etc. I don't think any of them would really make me say okay yeah makes sense. None of them should be on that strength level.
The fuck?

What have you been reading? Tobi is NOT strong. It's one of the main factors for the persistence of the Obito theory. All Uchiha are capable of accessing their Sharingan and its upper levels. It's not Super Saiyan where you have reach a certain level of power before throwing a rage fit. They are unlocked almost entirely through emotion. Each stage including activation and Mangekyo Sharingan were unlocked for Sasuke through emotion and Sasuke obtained his MS through Tobi's speech about Itachi. He didn't kill him.

Tobi has yet to demonstrate the typical Uchiha prowess with the Fire element or any jutsu above C rank that isn't related to his eyes. His primary source of power lies within his Space–Time Migration ability from his right eye, making him absurdly difficult to harm. He fights like a complete bitch who lucked himself into the MS ability of all MS abilities.
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Seemed like he drained her chakra for Oro's chakra from her cursed seal then tossed her away.
Still looking for a confirmation on her death. Her & Yamato are in veggie states at this point.
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But tobi is not any stronger then itachi, pain, sasuke, naruto or kabuto... His true strength is strategy and controlling people... manipulating them into doing his work for him.... that and tobi from the get go has been a defensive fighter except against minato and konan... So, tobi being someone like kagami, shisui, or the elder son of RS is fine... IMO...
True but i think he is actually weaker, dont see why people are calling him strong.
I like(but after that"ooo, i tut i waz sweating its just rain crapits now) liked because he dint rely on brute strenght, minato also, any story i write i always make the hero strong by intelligence(brute strenght optional), not just brute strenght.

Used to like sasuke but he doesnt use his head much any more, appart from that genjutsu ish he used to defeat danzo.
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Who's Yamato again? That reminds me of a story. My cousin and I were driving by this gas station and we saw this hooker and well, it wasn't pretty. I think my cousin's words were, abused and misused. Pretty much Yamato's character in a nutshell.
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LOL. He's doing hand seals for something else. He had already restored himself here.

Seemed like he drained her chakra for Oro's chakra from her cursed seal then tossed her away.

The fuck?

What have you been reading? Tobi is NOT strong. It's one of the main factors for the persistence of the Obito theory. All Uchiha are capable of accessing their Sharingan and its upper levels. It's not Super Saiyan where you have reach a certain level of power before throwing a rage fit. They are unlocked almost entirely through emotion. Each stage including activation and Mangekyo Sharingan were unlocked for Sasuke through emotion and Sasuke obtained his MS through Tobi's speech about Itachi. He didn't kill him.

Tobi has yet to demonstrate the typical Uchiha prowess with the Fire element or any jutsu above C rank that isn't related to his eyes. His primary source of power lies within his Space–Time Migration ability from his right eye, making him absurdly difficult to harm. He fights like a complete bitch who lucked himself into the MS ability of all MS abilities.
Agree with all but this, i liked him because of the way he fought effecirnt, like 4th, not just boom boom pow.


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Who's Yamato again? That reminds me of a story. My cousin and I were driving by this gas station and we saw this hooker and well, it wasn't pretty. I think my cousin's words were, abused and misused. Pretty much Yamato's character in a nutshell.
He was a waste of the 1st hokages cells, orochi was right throwing him out.
Come to think of it, with the new hype given to 1st, it should be a taboo to say yamato is in any way a copy of the 1st, a chromosome of a weed cannot be called a tree.

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But tobi is not any stronger then itachi, pain, sasuke, naruto or kabuto... His true strength is strategy and controlling people... manipulating them into doing his work for him.... that and tobi from the get go has been a defensive fighter except against minato and konan... So, tobi being someone like kagami, shisui, or the elder son of RS is fine... IMO...
Tobi has been playing games since day 1, the only fight he has taken seriously is the fight against Naruto that we have not seen much of.

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LOL. He's doing hand seals for something else. He had already restored himself here.

Seemed like he drained her chakra for Oro's chakra from her cursed seal then tossed her away.

The fuck?

What have you been reading? Tobi is NOT strong. It's one of the main factors for the persistence of the Obito theory. All Uchiha are capable of accessing their Sharingan and its upper levels. It's not Super Saiyan where you have reach a certain level of power before throwing a rage fit. They are unlocked almost entirely through emotion. Each stage including activation and Mangekyo Sharingan were unlocked for Sasuke through emotion and Sasuke obtained his MS through Tobi's speech about Itachi. He didn't kill him.

Tobi has yet to demonstrate the typical Uchiha prowess with the Fire element or any jutsu above C rank that isn't related to his eyes. His primary source of power lies within his Space–Time Migration ability from his right eye, making him absurdly difficult to harm. He fights like a complete bitch who lucked himself into the MS ability of all MS abilities.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, he fights like a bitch, but I wasn't saying strong as in jutsu, I was saying strong in the big picture sense of it. He has fulled people to believe he was Madara Uchiha, he was able to recruit high ranking shinobi into the aka, he was able to capture 7 of 9 jinks, and have a stock pile of Sharingan eyes while also obtaining rinnegan. You really can't say he is not strong, just not in the physical sense of the word.

This is the main reason why I believe he could have something to do with RS though.

1. He has knowledge of all the villages.

2. As far as we know he was with Madara when he died, but old enough to be able to fight Minato which to me rules out Shisui and Obito.

3. He also has an obsession with Uchiha and Senju, the two clans who were supposed to be directly decended from RS himself, and from what I can tell Oro and Danzou did not become interested in combining the genes until after Oro had left the aka, which leads me to believe he figured out what Madara/Tobi was trying to do. In my personal opinion I truly feel Tobi creating Zetsu was him trying to figure out a way to help his body age.

4. As you stated earlier, he has showed no use with the Sharingan besides a space time jutsu, I have been an advocate for some time that I do not believe Tobi is even an Uchiha because of his lack of ability with the Sharingan.

5. If Tobi was also a decendent from RS it would be logical for him to have a large chakra pool which would allow him to use the sharingan so frequently.

6. A third son was never mentioned in the history of the manga so it would explain why he finds himself forgotten.

I could continue listing but it is all hypothetical, by no way am I claiming this to be manga facts, I am just saying that he would fit the time line of events, his age would obviously be an issue but Oro found a way to use new bodies so a son of RS def could.

I personally feel Tobi would have something to do with RS or be Kagami, either one would suffice for me even though we know nothing of Kagami, but none of the others make sense in terms of age.
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Who cares about Dan?.... no one. Thought so.
Now madara, i wanted him to stay but not this way, this was weak. Speaking of weak i thought madara would be weak after being revived in a clever way, so that he could have a reason to run for the mean while. Is kishi just gonna continue the fight?

Madara vs kages = Spanking, now the fight continues what are we gonna see
Madara vs Tired, injured, chakraless, beat up Kages = not entertaining especially when we know non of them will die but keep on ass pulling chakra to do a convenient move that saves their lives after they them selves attested to being basically "chakraless" several chapters ago.

Kishi!!! PLease let a named character die!, this is a freaking war, why was tsunade revived, this is just ridiculous. How can the great madara not kill even one kage. It would have been better if sunade didnt "die" at all.

Can a good artist start the story(naruto) from before the war, illustration paneling word bubbles n ish!!.
The story could have progressed differently. And i'm sure that by creating first a Civil War in Konoha, where several characters would have died, let Tobi be Madara and expose him sooner, let Naruto became uber powerful through hardwork and not resolving all the conflicts with talking would have made this manga much better. But hell, i'm not the author.
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There are many much better here than i am. Even KYF. He has a wonderful immagination. What he lacks it's organization and discipline. He is like a kid that rushes to do everything without thinking first.
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No no, i have posted how I thnk KYF has a great imagination. Its just that from some o his Creative theories i dont know if we coul handle what naruto (the manga) would become.

It would eiither be "imaginative an entertaining"...


Or "wait, what?!"

Actually as I think a little more it probably would be great IF KYF wrote it from the start or beginning if you will. If any of us(not just KYF) took it now it woukd have to be retconned just to fix Kishunami that has been ripping thry it since after Pein arc.
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No no, i have posted how I thnk KYF has a great imagination. Its just that from some o his Creative theories i dont know if we coul handle what naruto (the manga) would become.

It would eiither be "imaginative an entertaining"...


Or "wait, what?!"

Actually as I think a little more it probably would be great IF KYF wrote it from the start or beginning if you will. If any of us(not just KYF) took it now it woukd have to be retconned just to fix Kishunami that has been ripping thry it since after Pein arc.
I don't want to appreciate myself, i will let the others. But you could do an amazing job. Most of the guys that are making serious stuff could come up with something else. But we would probably fail. Even though he didn't showed in the last chapter, Kishi still has the experience on his side. We don't.
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