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Old 07-22-2012, 03:53 AM   #106
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Re: Naruto 594

Actually, Madara is cell. Tobi is more like an annoying, haxxed Yajirobe. Pathetic, inexplicable and irritating...
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:54 AM   #107
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Re: Naruto 594

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Actually, Madara is cell. Tobi is more like an annoying, haxxed Yajirobe. Pathetic, inexplicable and irritating...

Wait, Yajirobe cut Vegeta's tail like Sasuke did to Bee... Tobi=Sasuke from the future has new evidence!
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:21 PM   #108
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Re: Naruto 594

Madara is more like buu think about it buu takes on the apperance of who he absorbs madara has the 1st face coming out his chest also buu has a perfect form so does madara and yes cell has one aswell however he is more like tobi who has other peoples powers but dosnt take on thier apperance but still changes

But realisticly tobi=gohan (gokus adopted Grandad)
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:29 PM   #109
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Re: Naruto 594

come to think of it tobi's identity might not be revealed till after the
Road To Naruto Movie. His secret identity might be important to the movie.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:44 AM   #110
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Re: Naruto 594

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He never lost his damn sight from that either.
Izanagi requires the user to sacrifice an eye. Not both.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/10.html

He lost his left eye and kept the right, his main one.

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Since Tobi has never become solid while somebody is "in" him, which would kill that person, we can conclude that it would kill him. Also since there would be air "in" him when he would become which would, AFAIK, also kill him if fused we can conclude that there are two possibilities to explain why he doesn't die when he becomes solid again:

a) The air thing is covered by the same artistic/story thing as his clothes

b) The air doesn't pass through him

If it is b) it may be possible for rasenshuriken to do damage to him even if he is phased.

I know its probably a) but it may be b).
The air of the Rasenshuriken is contained with the shape of the technique. It'd have to make contact first.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:05 AM   #111
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Re: Naruto 594

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The air of the Rasenshuriken is contained with the shape of the technique. It'd have to make contact first.
Yes and no, it would (probably) have to make contact with something, but it doesn't have to be tobi.

Ex. He could have clones attack from the front, causing tobi to become intangible, throw a RS from behind and through tobi, hit a clone and engulf tobi. Or simply a clone could attack tobi with rs in his hands then just hit himself when close to tobi if he goes intangible. That is all if he can't control the release of the technique himself, of he can then he can just throw it and release it beforehand.

Of course, all of that is if it is b).
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Re: Naruto 594

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Yes and no, it would (probably) have to make contact with something, but it doesn't have to be tobi.

Ex. He could have clones attack from the front, causing tobi to become intangible, throw a RS from behind and through tobi, hit a clone and engulf tobi. Or simply a clone could attack tobi with rs in his hands then just hit himself when close to tobi if he goes intangible. That is all if he can't control the release of the technique himself, of he can then he can just throw it and release it beforehand.

Of course, all of that is if it is b).
This is def how Tobi will be defeated, I second this.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:56 PM   #113
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Re: Naruto 594

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Yes and no, it would (probably) have to make contact with something, but it doesn't have to be tobi.

Ex. He could have clones attack from the front, causing tobi to become intangible, throw a RS from behind and through tobi, hit a clone and engulf tobi. Or simply a clone could attack tobi with rs in his hands then just hit himself when close to tobi if he goes intangible. That is all if he can't control the release of the technique himself, of he can then he can just throw it and release it beforehand.

Of course, all of that is if it is b).
I am not real sure how tobi could be defeated while intangible, but I suppose anything is plausible...

Probably the best way to beat tobi with a physical attack is the same way minato did through counter timing and attacking tobi the moment he becomes tangible counter attack. the problem is now that tobi has seen how the hiraishini/FTG works, he will surely avoid all kunai and places were naruto is or has been in case of placed seals. IMO, naruto will have to use the kyuubi's power to improve the FTG is he wants to hit tobi.

The creation of a level 3 hiraishin will probably be the way. Level 1 is merely throwing a kunai then transporting oneself to it once it reaches its destination and level 2 is throwing a kunai and transporting to it while its still moving, catching it. A level 3 will need be something far more effective, something allowing naruto to not telegraph his intentions of transport with a kunai like the other two versions, in order to catch tobi off guard. No, naruto will need to transport himself or a powerful attack without throwing or simply placing a jutsu shiki.

Pure speculation: iMO, the FTG works by minato making a jutsu shiki "seal" from his blood which creates a signature similar to that of the one used to sign a summons contract with animals, but this one is simply for use of oneself. minato's blood is infused with his life force and he is able to sense each seal's location, following it wherever it may go because he can sense his energy itself within the seal. in order to reverse summon himself, he focuses his chakra to a single seal and thus activates the power of the seal which causes the seal to automatically reverse summon minato.
For instance, a shinobi can mold and focus chakra to any part of his/her body. However, they can likely do the same for tools that work as extensions of the body, being able to control them without actually having to be in contact with them.

Example, Deidara's clay bombs... even without contact, deidara by having his own chakra in the clay can by simply focusing on the caly can activate his chakra creating an explosion... hand sign for this seen here with "katsu"...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/513/5

minato is shown using the same hand sign used for focusing ones chakra like deidara does... but on his kunai FTG seal for reverse summoning...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/502/13

there is a connection IMO...

Anyways, minato's level 3 hiraishin was likely based on his T/S barrier jutsu combined with his unfinished elemental rasengan...
Minato showed the power to create a T/S barrier to draw in attacks, then by using the FTG, release the attack away from the battlefield... as seen here...http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Naruto/502/7

I think minato meant to use his T/S barrier for his level 3... By instead of transporting himself to his enemy instantly to land a basic rasengan which so obviously failed at defeating tobi... minato was going to add an element to his rasengan as naruto did, create the elemental rasengan which would have a huge amount of power, much more then the rasengan. Then by creating a T/S barrier to draw in his own elemental rasengan attack, minato could instantly transport it and its blast to the enemy via the FTG thus defeating the enemy with an instantaneous elemental rasenagn attack....

Its like a ninjutsu summoning attack... the time space barrier is used offensively instead of defensively... and IMO, its because the FTG level 3 required the creation of a T/S barrier (which needs more chakra the larger it is to draw in something of more size) and the use of the FTG to guide the attack instantly to the enemy. minato would not have enough chakra to perform such a complex use of such powerful jutsu more then maybe once (also having to create an elemental rasengan too though)... but with the kyuubi's chakra naruto could spam something even as complex as the hypothetical hiraishin level 3...

I could see naruto using the FTG level 3 to summon his FRS or even his bijuudama...
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:21 PM   #114
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Re: Naruto 594

@kyf this is what I was referring to when I said b) I hope you know get what I was talking about


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The reason I'm asking is because I'm not convinced that the phasing would actually work,it may, but it also may not.

Here is my reasoning:

Since Tobi has never become solid while somebody is "in" him, which would kill that person, we can conclude that it would kill him. Also since there would be air "in" him when he would become which would, AFAIK, also kill him if fused we can conclude that there are two possibilities to explain why he doesn't die when he becomes solid again:

a) The air thing is covered by the same artistic/story thing as his clothes

b) The air doesn't pass through him

If it is b) it may be possible for rasenshuriken to do damage to him even if he is phased.

I know its probably a) but it may be b).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Re: Naruto 594

I thought Naruto made the RS explode through use of SM, you know, without contact. Could he do the same thing again?

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I thought Naruto made the RS explode through use of SM, you know, without contact. Could he do the same thing again?
He makes the Natural Chakra encasing the Rasenshuriken expand, which causes it to explode like it does now.
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Re: Naruto 594

Guys, I think this is where Kishi actually uses real world physics in his manga. The rasengan is compressed chakra.

In the real world, anything that is compressed (especially air for example) is exasperated to return to it's normal state. This is why people are warned not to shoot firearms or fireworks around compressed gas tanks.

The condensed state of the rasengan. The result of the decompression of the rasengan. The Fuuton: Rasen Shuriken is nothing more than an elemental infused rasengan that is thrown.

Now, for the FRS, we haven't seen the evidence yet to provide the proof that Naruto controls the expansion or not.

I don't think it's an expansion at all. It's a decompression.
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Guys, I think this is where Kishi actually uses real world physics in his manga. The rasengan is compressed chakra.

In the real world, anything that is compressed (especially air for example) is exasperated to return to it's normal state. This is why people are warned not to shoot firearms or fireworks around compressed gas tanks.
I think you have that wrong (see also: I know you do). For starters, shooting a tank of compressed gas will do nothing but make it release that gas, as there is no catalyst to set off the reaction (do NOT believe what you see in movies, those tanks are wired to explode). The reason people are warned not to shoot firearms/works around compressed gas is that gas is reactive with oxygen. The sparks from fireworks serves as a catalyst to start the reaction with the gas and the oxygen around it. Also, metal on metal sparking from the bullets hitting the tanks serves the same function.

Quote:
The condensed state of the rasengan. The result of the decompression of the rasengan. The Fuuton: Rasen Shuriken is nothing more than an elemental infused rasengan that is thrown.

Now, for the FRS, we haven't seen the evidence yet to provide the proof that Naruto controls the expansion or not.
Actually, we have. Until Naruto completed his Sage training he couldn't sustain the Rasenshuriken for longer than ~15 seconds, let alone keep it stable and throw it. Once he mastered Sage Mode, and trained himself with combining the sage chakra with his techs, he was able to encase the Rasenshuriken in Sage chakra to throw it.
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I think you have that wrong (see also: I know you do). For starters, shooting a tank of compressed gas will do nothing but make it release that gas, as there is no catalyst to set off the reaction (do NOT believe what you see in movies, those tanks are wired to explode). The reason people are warned not to shoot firearms/works around compressed gas is that gas is reactive with oxygen. The sparks from fireworks serves as a catalyst to start the reaction with the gas and the oxygen around it. Also, metal on metal sparking from the bullets hitting the tanks serves the same function.



Actually, we have. Until Naruto completed his Sage training he couldn't sustain the Rasenshuriken for longer than ~15 seconds, let alone keep it stable and throw it. Once he mastered Sage Mode, and trained himself with combining the sage chakra with his techs, he was able to encase the Rasenshuriken in Sage chakra to throw it.
For someone who claims to be an aspiring physicist, you've completely forgotten what is taught in physical science, usually in the 4th or 5th grade.

You are right about the spark from metal on metal friction starting the flame, but what causes the explosion is the decompression of the gas (usually oxygen, any physicist/chemist would know that in the vast majority of compressed gases, oxygen has formed some type of bond with an alkaline metal). See, this is why those who are, or are about to go to college should take Chemsitry 101 (Basic Chem) and it's lab. If your prof was anything like mine, the majority of the time in Chem Lab, you're blowing shit up, and learning the fundamentals of how to make fireworks.

(Bonus question: Which alkaline metals cause a green, orange, and purple flame?)

Why do you think that air tanks, especially blow torches have control valves? That valve controls the flow (decompression) of the gas.

The page you provided does give you some support, but it isn't flat out stated. Also, how are you not sure that the natural energy isn't used to keep the FRS intact until it reaches it's decompression point? I can actually deduce that this is indeed the case. Where Naruto adds enough natural energy to the FRS to keep it intact until it makes contact with matter, disrupting the compression, or that Naruto meant for the FRS to be compressed for a specific time period, then the decompression begins.
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For someone who claims to be an aspiring physicist, you've completely forgotten what is taught in physical science, usually in the 4th or 5th grade.

You are right about the spark from metal on metal friction starting the flame, but what causes the explosion is the decompression of the gas
Actually, you have your physics wrong. The explosion isn't caused by decompression, it's caused by the internal pressure of the gas expanding from the heat superseding the strength of the container with no suitable outlet for that gas to escape (because a small hole, like the nozzle or a bullet hole, isn't sufficient to empty the entire content of the tank in an instant). Decompression is the gas being released from the tank, decreasing the internal forces form the gas expanding outward (which it invariably does).

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(usually oxygen, any physicist/chemist would know that in the vast majority of compressed gases, oxygen has formed some type of bond with an alkaline metal).
Any physicist/chemist would also know that oxygen, when combined with an alkaline metal, forms a SOLID known as an alkali metal oxide. These oxides melt at temperatures well above 100 C (the lowest melting temp is Lithium peroxide at 195 C (there is lithium superoxide at 15K, but it doesn't exist outside of matrix isolation)), so they can't exist in anything but a solid state at room temperatures.

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See, this is why those who are, or are about to go to college should take Chemsitry 101 (Basic Chem) and it's lab. If your prof was anything like mine, the majority of the time in Chem Lab, you're blowing shit up, and learning the fundamentals of how to make fireworks.
Your chemistry teacher must've had a short tenure if that was his primary lab work. That isn't teaching you anything about chemistry as a whole, and it is dangerous (because there's always that one dumb shit that will inevitably blow up the building). My chem labs consisted of different mixtures, like diluting acids, on top of burning different metals to gauge what they were based on the colors they burned (which is actually a reaction from the electrons jumping out to a larger shell, then falling back to their normal shells), which leads me to your next "bonus question":

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(Bonus question: Which alkaline metals cause a green, orange, and purple flame?)
Green flame: Barium
Orange flame: Calcium
Purple flame: Rubidium

Want to keep trying? I'm fairly certain I know more about this than you.

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Why do you think that air tanks, especially blow torches have control valves? That valve controls the flow (decompression) of the gas.
Gee, I don't know, to control the flow of the gas to make it more useful to the welder? It makes it more difficult to cut metal if you have a loose flame (see also: flamethrower) than a controlled flame.

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The page you provided does give you some support, but it isn't flat out stated. Also, how are you not sure that the natural energy isn't used to keep the FRS intact until it reaches it's decompression point? I can actually deduce that this is indeed the case. Where Naruto adds enough natural energy to the FRS to keep it intact until it makes contact with matter, disrupting the compression, or that Naruto meant for the FRS to be compressed for a specific time period, then the decompression begins.
There's one small problem with your "deduction": The Rasenshuriken was no where near actually touching Human path before it expanded (the expansion was rapid).
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