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Old 08-01-2012, 08:02 AM   #46
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Pretty sure Tobi will change his strategy now considering Kakashi has figured it out. Hopefully by end of the year Tobi identity is revealed, Madara has been taken care of and Sasuke has learnt something valuable from Orochimaru aka Tenten's love interest (according to Lee and Neji in Rock Lee series)
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Ok chapter.

And that one jutsu thing, pretty much explain to me why Tobi said kamui won't work on him and also everything about his identity.
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Pretty sure Tobi will change his strategy now considering Kakashi has figured it out. Hopefully by end of the year Tobi identity is revealed, Madara has been taken care of and Sasuke has learnt something valuable from Orochimaru aka Tenten's love interest (according to Lee and Neji in Rock Lee series)
Well if it's changing of strategy then he should just stop the phasing and fight like them head on.
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Or it could be Obito's father/elder brother. Someone like say Kagami.
ROTFLMAO. For starters, Kagami is from Danzo's generation. Far, far too damn old to be Obito's older brother. Father? The Uchiha's story ALWAYS come back to brothers: Uchiha Clan Ancestor/Senju Clan Ancestor, Madara/Izuna, and Itachi/Sasuke.

Tobi's spammed this ability far too much to lack EMS. That eye belongs to not just one person, but two. The only way Kagami would fit would be as Fugaku's older brother which just isn't happening since Obito's Sharingan is one half of that thing.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:09 AM   #50
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Ok chapter.

And that one jutsu thing, pretty much explain to me why Tobi said kamui won't work on him and also everything about his identity.
Yup I think what someone said earlier on is true. He prolly found obito and took his right eye, trained with it and got that ability which is advanced cos he trully is an uchiha. Question is which uchiha?
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ROTFLMAO. For starters, Kagami is from Danzo's generation. Far, far too damn old to be Obito's older brother. Father? The Uchiha's story ALWAYS come back to brothers: Uchiha Clan Ancestor/Senju Clan Ancestor, Madara/Izuna, and Itachi/Sasuke.

Tobi's spammed this ability far too much to lack EMS. That eye belongs to not just one person, but two. The only way Kagami would fit would be as Fugaku's older brother which just isn't happening since Obito's Sharingan is one half of that thing.
Fugaki has nothing to do with anything. Sasuke's bloodline seems to involve Susanoo not space/time jutsu. Kagami being Obito's father isn't to far fetched. Kagami is in Sarutobi's generation who fahered Asuma who is close to Kakashi & there by Obitos age. As far as brother goes it's possible for siblings to have an age difference well over 20 years. Yes people do continue to have sex after their first children.
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Well if it's changing of strategy then he should just stop the phasing and fight like them head on.
Tobi, he has jutsu, this chapter just further proves. I remember back during the earlier parts of Part 2, Tobi was said to have used a jutsu on the Sanbi to debilitate it enough for capture. He also now has the Rinnegan; but we don't know exactly how effective he is with it just yet. He's only really used it to assume control of the Gedou Mazou in preparation for the eye of the moon plan and through the shared vision of the hosts. We shall see.
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Tobi, he has jutsu, this chapter just further proves. I remember back during the earlier parts of Part 2, Tobi was said to have used a jutsu on the Sanbi to debilitate it enough for capture. He also now has the Rinnegan; but we don't know exactly how effective he is with it just yet. He's only really used it to assume control of the Gedou Mazou in preparation for the eye of the moon plan. We shall see.
I know dats why I meant by he should just fight them head on using jutsu adn that'll make him a bit even with them cos two of em have seen the rennigan in use b4 and one knows how to fight with a sharingan user.
lol we have two T/S users, all are good at taijutsu, one super speedster, two known explosive power users, a good tactician. This'll be intersting...
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Kakashi managed to hit him with the rasengan because where they were in this dimension doesn't change anything in the other. It's like a mirror dimension, but still looking different. Cause tobi was visually still in one dimension with the rasengan, the rasengan eould be with him in the other dimension. Lol hard to explain this. If tobi were to fully warp himself away and not be visually present in this dimension, he could escape from the rasengan. This other dimension is the same kind of world, just on another frequency or whatever. Tobi was heading in a straiht line towards wherever he was heading throuh naruto. If he didn't "warp" himself he'd still get hit on his right arm in that dimension. I hope i explained it well enough.
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Kakashi managed to hit him with the rasengan because where they were in this dimension doesn't change anything in the other. It's like a mirror dimension, but still looking different. Cause tobi was visually still in one dimension with the rasengan, the rasengan eould be with him in the other dimension. Lol hard to explain this. If tobi were to fully warp himself away and not be visually present in this dimension, he could escape from the rasengan. This other dimension is the same kind of world, just on another frequency or whatever. Tobi was heading in a straiht line towards wherever he was heading throuh naruto. If he didn't "warp" himself he'd still get hit on his right arm in that dimension. I hope i explained it well enough.
I still think they're the same dimension
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I still think they're the same dimension
That was my point, lol.
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Yup I think what someone said earlier on is true. He prolly found obito and took his right eye, trained with it and got that ability which is advanced cos he trully is an uchiha. Question is which uchiha?
I don't know what someone said earlier but i find that one jutsu thing has nothing to do with obito but rather exclusive ms of non-uchiha considering tobi has never used susanoo...
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Gee, Kakashi has used his warping tech twice. He's going to be bedridden for a year... or dead. Seriously - good move but that rasengan did fuck all to Tobi. Aim for the idiot's head and do some real damage!! MORANS!! Not like Kakashi can keep this up all day, right Kishi?

(Kishi shrugs)

Oh right.

Good hit but really feel they are picking away rather than doing anything damaging. See where it goes from here but calling bullshit on this if Kakashi uses Kumai (is that right?) more than once more. Good chance for the "All the eggs in one basket" chapter which fails, taking Kakashi out. Perhaps for good.
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The damgae to Tobi by Kakashi is based on proximity. If he warps something to that shared dimension when it is close to tobi(while he is intangible) it will damage him.

Which is why tobi never warps any jutsu that are attacking him.
Also why he hates Abaruma clan members, those bugs would mess him up!!

In response to Kakashi using kamui and his chakra. We can firt assume that being inside Kurama cliak replenished it. We also know that over tine kakshi trains himself not to use so much chajra when executing techniques.

He is showing his Credentials, finally! Which also shows Naruto ISN'T ready for that yet.
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Kagami being Obito's father isn't to far fetched. Kagami is in Sarutobi's generation who fahered Asuma who is close to Kakashi & there by Obitos age.
I'll give you that, but part of what excludes him is the complete lack of an emotional connection to anyone alive. The other is look who he was surrounded with, the sheer level of bad-assery involved in that crew. Tobi fights like a one-trick pony bitch. It's why I always knew he was never Madara and it's why he can't be Kagami. There's pretty much two excuses for Tobi's fighting style:

1. He never was worth a fuck and lucked into the mother of all MS abilities.
2. The surviving Sharigan users would recognize his movements.

Anyone else would've fired off some Fire jutsu by now, especially running around with that fan and again, the Uchiha story is always brothers.

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Fugaki has nothing to do with anything. Sasuke's bloodline seems to involve Susanoo not space/time jutsu.
Not necessarily. Susanoo is the third ability granted after the user awakens the abilities in both eyes. But if Tobi never had both pairs, no access. Besides, going with Fugaku instead of Obito would provide Kishi an important out for this whole Sasuke mess.
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