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Old 08-23-2012, 08:35 PM   #1
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Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

So a lot of people have said if tobi is obito then kishi's writing is bad

genuine question,

why is it bad?

I remember a lot of people saying that it if it is then there are lots of plot holes, can those people explain to me again what those are because I forgot.



I read the other thread where a member was complaining about people complaining the writing is bad and contradictory so i want to know what those are.


Because to me, Kishi has dropped many hints that tobi might be obito but then killed it with tobi calling himself madara and then everyone was like 'damnit, the anti tobito people were right'

I think a lot of you used what kishi has said in past chapters to disproof tobito theory.
but kishi also had tobi call himself madara and now it seems hes not

what im trying to say is, perhaps the plot holes you found were on purpose, you cant take everything kishi mentions to be fully truth at the point otherwise there would be no twists. i mean itachi was supposed to be a bad guy, people thought minato couldnt be narutos dad.

Kishi clearly wanted everyone to keep guessing tobis identity, he wanted it to be a suspense and clearly it was because it took freaking the whole of series 2 for his mask to break. btw in a recent interview where kishi was asked when we get to see his face, kishi replied with something like 'soon, but for now please keep predicting'
he wants us to keep guessing, so with that in mind, isnt it possible that he may have thrown a few clues and there so people think he isnt obito? because hes been dropping hints and he doesnt want it to be that obvious that it is.

first it was the haircut and the eye and the name that gave birth to the theory, all very slim to use as evidence but then kishi did a 180 and called him madara and now he maybe obito again...hes clearly throwing curve balls so why is it hard to assume he has done with his clues so people dont guess it right away.


Ok maybe he didnt?

what if all these plot holes are explained when his identity is revealed and his full story is told?

maybe its only obito's body and not him consciously.


This writer has produced some great stuff before, lets not judge the entire thing until it ends.

why the negativity?

but seriously what were the plot holes of tobi being obito again? i honestly cant remember
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:46 PM   #2
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

Clearly he planned this all out and wasnt going blindly

he fit the kakashi gaiden in just before series 2 where tobi was a big part

people thought kakashi gaiden was to do with kakashi and only fan service because we all wanted to see how he got his eye. but now we see it had another purpose. Yes obito got crushed, but this is a ninja world, ive seen lots of things that should have killed sasuke and naruto. Shisui is supposedly dead too and a lot of you are so sure tobi isnt him (im not saying he is) im just saying, just because itachi states hes dead doesnt mean hes actually dead, only time will tell.

other clues in series 2 include the hair, the eye, the name (but those arent really holding much water)

then there was the fact that every time tobi met with people from the leaf, kakashi is there, kakashi is the one to spot his normal sharingan eye first. after danzo fight, kakashi is there and tobi says his eye technique is useless vs him.

kakashi is there with naruto against show down vs tobi.

i said this in a thread a month ago that if tobi is to be unmasked in this fight there is no way that none of the people seeing the face will not know him, imagine it 'er whos he kakashi' 'dont know , do you know naruto? 'nope? you bee' 'NAAHH' how boring lol
the only person we know that knows an uchiha that might fight the description is kakashi

but my thread got battered by anti tobi theorists.

fine i get it, there are plot holes, you can come up with endless reasons why each one of those hints do not suggest he is, but when you put them all together how can you deny?
1 hint may be a coincidence, but this many? kishi is slapping you blind in the face the tobi had something to do with obito to begin with.

But it could be another twist by kishi, all the hints may only suggest that its only his eye tobi has and not obito himself or his body, kishi thinking at this point everyone thinks its obito then BAM another twist.

but come on guys, get realistic, there are plotholes no doubt, but can you not even admit that kishi was clearly leading you to think it?
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:03 PM   #3
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

Pull out the firearm, set it under your chin, proceed to squeeze the trigger for opening this thread. Mind blowingly silly sh*t.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:06 PM   #4
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

^ why?

I want to know what are these plot holes that obito/obitos body cant be tobi.

I simply dont remember everything in the manga?
im just asking people to remind me
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

This thread is a remake?
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

I don't see how you can understand any logic when you see it necessary to create a thread with the same dumb question as to a thread that was created only a few hours ago...
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

Its logical that you created this, that means you understand that from Obito's crushing to the Kyuubi invasion was only 2 to 3 years, and he became such the ninja that he gave that much drama to Minato, and Kushina as well, and didn't speak as if he knew his own Sensei during the whole battle. Yeah that sensical.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:19 AM   #8
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

your so stupid dude....its a shame your a Sasuke fan.

How did he give Nagato Rinnegan and force Yahiko to start Akatsuki when he wasnt even born yet?? GTFOH
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

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Obito's crushing to the Kyuubi invasion was only 2 to 3 years
It was actually less than 1 year. Obito was killed when Kakashi was 13, 13 years before the story began. Naruto was 12 when the story began, meaning ~1 year passed between Obito dying, and Tobi's attack.
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

I'm sick of this. Ok, so he is fucking Obito or Shisui or who the fuck you want. So what? Does anyone gain something from this? I noticed that the Obito retards have emerged these days. They were hidden waiting for the proper moment to strike. Come on guys! Let's stop this idiotic argument: we have given so many arguments why it's fucking stupid to make Tobi=Obito, but their thick skull cannot accept that idea.
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

Attention whore much? Why hasn't this thread been closed yet there's another one exactly like it http://www.fandom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203046
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

This was, in your opinion, a thread that needed repeating?

Hey Mods, will I get perma-banned for starting a topic titled "Why it's good to bitch slap down Tobi=Obito, and the people who start unnecessary threads"? Cause I think that's a topic worth discussing.
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

this isnt about complaining that others are complaining tobi isnt obito, it isnt the same thread.

I asked why it cant be because many claim these plot holes and I dont remember them
i want to know these plot holes.


Ok some of you say how he gave the nagato the rinnegan, how can he compete with minato

well ive said numerous times that it is probably only obito's body, and not him consciously.
Whoever this tobi is, knew madara personally and planned this whole thing, but surely anyone who knew madara cannot be alive by conventional means.

Thats why i dont think its obito consciously but someone who keeps switching bodies to stay alive, like ORO did.

so in that scenario, when tobi gave nagato the rinnegan, he was in another body!


let me get the perfectly straight. I dont think it's obito consciously at all! i think hes dead
the only thing the is similar is just his body and his eye!

Again, I want to know what the other plot holes are making you guys so sure that it's not obitos body
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

OK - if it is just Obito's body and not Obito's skill or brain... then how the fuck can it actually be Obito? Your argument basically is nothing. It is his eye, the manga has pretty well established that. If it is a body snatching Tobi, then just as when Orochimaru took over a person, that person ceased to be and became Orochimaru.

Therefore, by your own argument of body switching, Tobi is NOT Obito.

Try again?
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Re: Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?

@freedom07 the title of your thread is "Why is it bad writing that tobi=obito?" while Lama's thread is "Tobi = Obito = Shitty writing?". Both titles are basically saying the same thing. If you really want to discuss it then post in Lama's thread instead of attention whoring by making a new one. Someone close this please.

PS: I already explained why it's shitty writing in a different thread. Not going to repeat myself in here.
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