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Old 09-02-2012, 04:37 PM   #1
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Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

It was revealed that Tobi is Obito... Despite the many holes in this outcome that makes it so unbelievable... However, Tobi is only obito's body with someone remotely controlling it from the kamui dimension...

With someone else living through an obito zetsu body, its not wonder he wants no identity... he is not who he should be and is merely using the body to realize his goals...
IMO, the person in the kamui dimension controlling the obito zetsu body has to be someone that is close to obito, knows him and wanted to live through him the same way nagato wanted to live through yahiko to keep his goals and dreams alive...

IMO, it is between three people...

1). Obito's possible brother Shisui... They look very similar are only a couple years apart seemingly and are the only two uchiha to awaken a MS that surpasses the regular, but only offers one jutsu in both eyes instead of one jutsu per eye... Obito has two Kamui eyes and shisui had two Kotoamatsukami... One brother a ninjutsu type with the ultimate MS ninjutsu and one brother a genjutsu type with the ultimate genjutsu...

2). It could actually be Rin... She supposedly died somehow, but we do not know how so its plausible she might not actually be dead... She could have became disillusioned by obito's death and how he truly felt then something else that happened later which made her join akatsuki, use zetsu to touch what was left of obito's dead body then create a full sized clone for Rin to use while implanting a SG in it which became MS after some training thus kamui...

3). Obito's father??? This one is much more less plausible, but I think it is somewhat likely IMO...

This will explain everything...






Granted this has been talked about allot, but I felt the need to actually prove some of the theories and claims....
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:30 PM   #2
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Re: Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

Hold on, one sec. Let me dig this up.....okay.
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Emachina, a zetsu clone has hashirama chakra, but can't harden to take a sword to the arm or rasengan to the back from minato. They cannot regenerate... , zetsu cannot... zetsu are weak and are able to take the form of anyone they touch by copying chakra... tobi cannot.

Evidence however that shisui=tobi....
Okay. That was chapter 580, what changed so it's now a Zetsu clone?
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:24 PM   #3
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everything is "proof" to you. maybe I'll photoshop some of your theories for you sometime, make your dreams come true.
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Old 09-02-2012, 08:57 PM   #4
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Hold on, one sec. Let me dig this up.....okay.


Okay. That was chapter 580, what changed so it's now a Zetsu clone?
I am aware what I wrote, but now that tobi of part two is confirmed to be obito's (body) now... Clearly the only other answer would be for obito to be a form of zetsu clone which I showed in the compilation of photos up above...

Then again it is possible that obito wa injected with hashirama's cells to become what he is, but I am not sure just any uchiha can do such a thing which is why madara was the one to actually do it apparently...

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I can "prove" obito's body could be a zetsu clone...

The panels I posted do show the body of obito is a form of zetsu seeing as how it can use the hashirama plant material (which zetsu's body is made out of) to replace limbs which only a form of zetsu should be able to do IMO...

And the reason the limbs return to zetsu-like form after they are removed could be because it is what happens when the jutsu ends thus returning to normal... Just as it did with the kisame zetsu clone...
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:44 PM   #5
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Re: Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

So...we've had to stretch to Shisui being Obitos' brother who is controlling his once not possible to be a Zetsu clone body? Are you M. Night Shamalan researching a live action Naruto flick? :-|
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So...we've had to stretch to Shisui being Obitos' brother who is controlling his once not possible to be a Zetsu clone body? Are you M. Night Shamalan researching a live action Naruto flick? :-|
As new info presents itself... things change... Tobi is confirmed obito (in body right now, have yet to learn anything else till next week). So him being shisui is kind of out the window... and allot of other people are talking about the same thing I brought up in this thread which is why I made it... I just put the panels together to support the argument of obito being a form of zetsu clone that someone else is controlling... it is not a theory of mine, just a discussion thread...
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:30 PM   #7
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Re: Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

This is such a stupid fucking thread. We knew he had a Zetsu body after the Minato fight.

No idea why people even respond to this idiot.
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Re: Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

Lol, hearing that from you just tickles...

And "We" do not know nothing captain delusional... we only "think" until confirmed....

and while its is most likely obito is a zetsu clone of some sort... he could still just turn out to be obito himself who was injected with hashirama's cell... Even though less unlikely then the other... still likely until confirmed otherwise by the author...

And the whole point of this thread to actually give credibility to the theory that obito is a zetsu clone which is not just proved by Obito's body being zetsu-like... But someone has to be remote controlling the body from somewhere and I took care of that too witht he situation kishi created by having Fuu and torune sucked into kamui dimension while sasuke and karin was in there yet they were not there when tobi went in to get sasuke and karin out to battle danzou...

and tobi said he put fuu and torune under a genjutsu (and had their hands tied) the moment he captured them despite him not going back into the dimension until after danzou was killed by sasuke... So someone else must be in there not only controlling the obito body, but capable of casting genjutsu and tieing up the enemy...
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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Old 09-03-2012, 12:27 AM   #9
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And "We" do not know nothing captain delusional... we only "think" until confirmed....
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Re: Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

Obito is shown with both Zetsu parts & human parts when his arm was revealed. Obito's hand/wrist & upper shoulder area were human while his elbow area was made of Zetsu flesh. Meaning part of his body is still human. Meaning Obito isn't a Zetsu clone.
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Re: Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

it must be obito. then wtf the whole 599 chapter flashback about obito.
it must be a reason why this damn chapter referring to obito.
he love rin so much and he go crazy.
it is confirm tobi is obito, but he using zetsu to live
maybe half obito and half zetsu.. is call tobi
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KYF you're a stupid motherfucker you know that? He could be Rin? Wtf, where does that come from?
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Just noticed the hand situation.
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And "We" do not know nothing captain delusional... we only "think" until confirmed....
This is funny, coming from you.
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Re: Proof Obito's body=zetsu clone and there is someone else...

If you notice his face as well, the markings on his face people are mistaking for damage from the rocks crushing him but the lines are almost identical to the lines on Zetsu and other Harashima related things.
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