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Old 09-07-2012, 01:11 AM   #271
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All I can think is GAME OVER. Nothing the good guys got can stop either Obito, or Madara. They're summons alone make them the Tag Team Champ Chumps of the Narutoverse. Nobody please speak on the Toilet Paper Kages, Madara just finshed and flushed. Yahhh he even put the seat down before joining Obito.
You seem to be forgetting that this is not only Shonen, but really badly written Shonen.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:24 AM   #272
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I didn't say I know the mind. I learned about how people act when getting bullied and we got to the bullying statistics and cyber bullying was a big part of it. Stop acting so superior. I said it so Num doesn't get butthurt over the fact that I pulled it out of my ass. Did I say I know what Num or KYF feel and how they act? No. I just said a statistic that you can learn in a simple Psychology class.
Except anyone that has gone through an introductory psych class would know that statistics aren't the end-all-be-all of human behavior. The concept of "correlation =/= causation" is beaten into a psych student's skulls from day one. All statistics show us is there is a correlative relationship between the response to bullying and bullying itself. It doesn't definitively say "this behavior occurred because of bullying". Instead, we're taught to read the statistics as "this behavior occurred in the presence of this stimulus while in this setting this many times.".
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:41 AM   #273
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Besides, I wouldn't think cyber bullying that results in people killing themselves is usually referring to someone that posts stupid shit anonymously on a message board and gets made fun of for posting stupid shit. That's probably more like all the kids from a chicks school making fun of her on facebook or some shit.

And I know this might come off as mean, but I don't care and won't feel bad if some retard on here kills himself because I called him a retard. In fact, I'd call his family and friends and whoever retards too for letting him on the internet when he's that mentally unstable.
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Besides, I wouldn't think cyber bullying that results in people killing themselves is usually referring to someone that posts stupid shit anonymously on a message board and gets made fun of for posting stupid shit. That's probably more like all the kids from a chicks school making fun of her on facebook or some shit.

And I know this might come off as mean, but I don't care and won't feel bad if some retard on here kills himself because I called him a retard. In fact, I'd call his family and friends and whoever retards too for letting him on the internet when he's that mentally unstable.
In a brutally pragmatic way, I kinda concur with you...
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Except anyone that has gone through an introductory psych class would know that statistics aren't the end-all-be-all of human behavior. The concept of "correlation =/= causation" is beaten into a psych student's skulls from day one. All statistics show us is there is a correlative relationship between the response to bullying and bullying itself. It doesn't definitively say "this behavior occurred because of bullying". Instead, we're taught to read the statistics as "this behavior occurred in the presence of this stimulus while in this setting this many times.".
This. My Psych teacher from last year told us basically the same.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:04 AM   #276
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This. My Psych teacher from last year told us basically the same.
Try every single class. Especially behavioral studies classes where you need statistics to understand the relationship between stimulus and response (we used correlative studies in my practicum where I worked with autistic kids).
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Try every single class. Especially behavioral studies classes where you need statistics to understand the relationship between stimulus and response (we used correlative studies in my practicum where I worked with autistic kids).
I think that this it's like Pavlov reflex theory only a bit different and applied to the behaviour. If one gets bullyed several times, at a certain point, after several repetitions he will start bully himself. It can be correlated with other factors just as Kael said.
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You're just willing to accept anything, aren't you?
It's not an issue of accepting anything. The writing was on the wall for this shit. Between his defeat by Hashirama until his death, no one was 100% confirmed to have laid eyes on that motherfucker. He came across Nagato, but we don't know if Nagato saw him. Tobi claimed to create Zetsu. Some people thought the him Madara referred to after coming back as an Edo could be Zetsu and not Tobi. Seeing as Nagato wasn't aware any of eye transplants, he wasn't aware of Madara's involvement. Itachi would've noticed the difference in movement and jutsu. Not even getting into Kisame. Two people over 50 years in Zetsu and Tobi. If he kept himself that deeply under wraps, why would he have met the Kages?

Remember what he's said numerous times now: With Hashirama dead, you bitches don't stand a chance. They aren't a concern to him. It's like scouts ants as a danger to you. The more puzzling issue is why he didn't go Godzilla across the Narutoverse sooner.

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If it only concerns yourself, why are you so adamant on trying to convince people that Kishimoto's writing involving Tobi=Obito isn't bad? Yeah, not fooling anyone there, EoJ.
Except I've mocked the whole Rin thing already myself. No matter how many times you keep saying 1+1=3, it's not true.

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In any case, I firmly believe that anyone who wants KYF banned is a fool who doesn't agree with freedom. Don't care if you don't like him, he's every right to do what he does here, just as we have every right to call him on it.
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See rules 2 and 14. He should've been banned on those grounds ages ago.

Cut that bullshit out about freedom. This isn't Braveheart. No one's attempting to murder him or rape his woman over stupid shit said on the internet. Wanting him banned from this place for constant and blatant rule violations isn't an affront to freedom. It's enforcing the rules and basic common sense. Fortunately for him, they just don't seem to care.
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The writing wasn't on the wall for this shit (Tobi=Obito) if kishi had kept madara alive longer than he already was. Granting him the immortality that is the least expected for the boss of villains that includes the two immortal zombies.

Anyway who cares, obito still looks pale in comparison beside Madara now.
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The writing wasn't on the wall for this shit (Tobi=Obito) if kishi had kept madara alive longer than he already was.
With Kishi, I just cannot say anything anymore really. He's lost all sense of relevance, transition, pattern and logic in his plot. It's like the only way to surprise the readers is through shocking them into silence through sheer stupidity.
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And with his abilities to boot. I always perceived the Sharingan and the Uchiha to be disproportionately overpowered, but that doesn't even begin to justify the abnormality that is Madara.
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Something tells me that Obito might not be that far off if he was an Edo-Golem like Madara. The latter's Susano'o is amazing, but Obito hasn't been shown to have any serious repercussions to recurrently using Kamui. And we all know that there is more to him than just that one technique now. His Fire jutsu was pretty badass!
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The writing on the wall remarks were in relation to Madara not knowing the Kages besides Onoki.

However, the Obito thing was pretty damn obvious too. It had been predicted on numerous sites by dozens of people for years for a reason.

Lacking Madara's EMS design after it was shown through flashback in chapter 386, claiming to be Madara while rocking a mask 24/7, Kishi calling him "The Man Who Calls Himself Madara" on a cover, the complete inability to fight worth a damn besides a single MS jutsu, the obvious Kamui connection, and Kishi's writing style (it was always going to be someone we knew) among other reasons.
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@EoJ: your reason for Madara not knowing the kages makes no sense. Sure, he only respected Hashirama but do you honestly believe he chose to be blissful ignorant of the kages and all top tier shinobi's because his nemesis was no more?

He didn't even know who Tsuande was which strikes me as very odd. Surely he would have wanted to know and destroy any descendant of Hashirama. Even when he was trolling the kages, he complimented them on their jutsu's and made remarks about raiton and Mei's kkg.

To claim that he wasn't the slightest bit curious about other ninja's/kages abilities because they were nothreat to him is illogical. Zetsu is the perfect tool to observe others and your saying Madara never once tapped into that source!

How he knew of Nagato is a big mystery but not as big as why he would even give it to Nagato in the first place. Yes, he was an Uzamaki but does that mean that ANY Uzamaki could have being given the rinnegan?

Then there's what Tobi said to Konan when they fought. They were alone, he was about to kill her so there was no reason to lie. Yet if Tobi really is Obito, then everything he said to her was horse shit, the kind of needless lies, even Fox News would not authorise. Personally, I don't think he was lying to Konan but he clearly wasn't telling the whole truth either.

Obito and Kakashi were more or less the same age and Kabuto is probably from Itachi's generation IIRC. If Kakashi called Kabuto a 'brat' it would be out of place because the age gap isn't that big yet when Tobi/Obito said it, it seemed fitting. Kabuto at the time, knew he wasn't Madara but he accepted that brat remark like a child would if an adult called him one.

This shit's confusing and Kishi has done so, on PURPOSE. He created this 'problem' for himself and naturally, already has the solution. Trust me, its gonna be more complicated than what we currently know.

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The writing on the wall remarks were in relation to Madara not knowing the Kages besides Onoki.

However, the Obito thing was pretty damn obvious too. It had been predicted on numerous sites by dozens of people for years for a reason.
Only, it is an ambivalent discrepancy. If Madara was the one who rescued/resuscitated Obito then he obviously was moving around. For him to ensure that he stays hidden from the world, he needs to know whom to avoid. He needs to be aware of the villages to constantly be hiding and ensuring his evasion from the world.

Now if the opposite was true and Madara was truly in hiding and was discovered, then I can understand him not knowing any of the Kages since he had managed to alienate himself from the world for good. However, that doesn't justify him knowing Obito then.
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Tobi being Obito isn't the problem. The fact that the faulty foreshadowing, botched timeline and basic correlation issues lead to the concept sounding utterly foolish and retarded. If it was conducted about in a better manner, then it would be easier to digest, not in this regurgitated mess of an explanation.
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Re: Naruto_600

Here's another question I don't believe we've touched on. Since Tobito is motivated by Rin's death, and since he now knows how to perform the Edo Tensei, why is he continuing this utter stupidity of mind raping everyone into the matrix instead of resurrecting Rin and turning her into his mindless sex toy?

I'm willing to accept "Dude, it's fucking Kishi, have you not been paying attention". But if anyone has any other guesses, I'm all ears.
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Sorry for being so late into the party (well, being after the party is more accurate) but I really have to comment on this nugget:

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There's a big difference between Portugal and the world. (...) Same with how you know the cyber bullying suicide rates in Portugal I know how it is in the world.
This is not the first time a retard tried to put Portugal in outer space in order to prove their point. See, the correlation between suicide and cyber bullying ISN'T fixed, it depends on various factors. That's why I brought up my country, where there are various differences in the culture, language and even income, all of which may influence the decision of committing suicide. So, again, your fatalistic attempt to correlate cyber bullying and suicide is skewed at best and proves that, if you're really in a Psychology course, you're not paying attention.

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LOL. So you're offended by being called suicidal but not offended by getting called an idiot/retard/mother fucker/ bitch/etc? They're all personal if you think about it.
Wow, you're stupid. You really don't know the difference? Hint: the first assumes things the accuser can't possibly know, the latter is based on things the accuser already knows. That's why the first can be filed for law suit and the latter cannot.

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Since Tobito is motivated by Rin's death, and since he now knows how to perform the Edo Tensei, why is he continuing this utter stupidity of mind raping everyone into the matrix instead of resurrecting Rin and turning her into his mindless sex toy?
Well, other than Kishi simply forgot about it, maybe Obito didn't know how to use Edo tensei until Kabuto showed him how.
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