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Old 09-07-2012, 11:31 AM   #301
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I think it is more then obvious that sasuke will have to give naruto his eyes to reunite the two halves of the sage to fight the juubi's Jink...

and once that happens naruto will have the juubi's quality of chakra and remember what tobito said...

"AN incomplete version of the juubi is OK, it's chakra is no less potent, even a piece..."

So with the RG which is the power of eyes and body, which is the power of the sage, which obviously came from the yin/yang chakra of the juubi...

Naruto will have a piece of that potent chakra as well... and when it combines with the chakra all the other 6 bijuu gave him plus the kyuubi... he will have the power to take on whoever becomes the jink of the juubi...
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Yeah, well I prefer the narrative that Naruto blames the Sage of the Six Paths for all the evil and pain in the ninja world and does away both with eye techniques and the bijuu, leaving only the goodness of Talk no Jutsu.
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Yeah, well I prefer the narrative that Naruto blames the Sage of the Six Paths for all the evil and pain in the ninja world and does away both with eye techniques and the bijuu, leaving only the goodness of Talk no Jutsu.
That is actually the most likely scenario IMO... and what I have been thinking about for a long time since the idea of uchiha, senju and uzumaki's powers originating with the juubi as well as every other special power (elemental ninjutsu, KKGS ,ect) it is just like the actual ninja legend that ninja's are descendants of tengu... which is why they have other worldly powers...

And once the progenitor is taken out (the juubi), all those powers will go with it ending the era of the ninja and bringing in the age of the samurai... (and gai and lee will be the strongest with gates technique lol)

Bow before the bushy brow kings...

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Also, because the Uzumaki and senju are so different... I still do not understand how they could be brother clans, both directly coming from the younger so of the sage...

Tobito said that the senju and uchiha are the two direct descendants of the sage's two sons... Then I guess the Uzumaki could be a direct descendants of the sage himself... as his actual clan... But there is still the question of how the uzumaki could have such powerful life energy, physical energy and red hair that changes to white when chakra is over used which is similar to an uchiha's eyes...
What is the possibility that the Uzumaki were an ancient clan that worshiped the juubi as a god and thus were granted some of it's power... That could explain how the uzumaki clan are related to the senju... they are both clans that have some the juubi's powers passed down through their bloodlines...

I know it is far fetched, but if the uzumaki are not a direct descendant of the younger son too (because thier should only be one)... I am not sure how the Uzumaki could have power that is similar to both the senju and uchiha clans...
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On your first point, it is very very likely that the complete right half of Obito's body is courtesy white zetsu. Take a look at his battle with Fu and Torune (Danzo's root guards). His cut off hand is white gooey stuff where there should be blood and muscles. So the facial scars may have nothing to do with the boulder.

On point two, my understanding is that Rinnegan is just sharingan level 4. Sage himself might have just been born with normal eyes and with time he unlocked the levels. Maybe nobody except madara and nagato were able to upgrade their sharingan to rinnegan levels, not even sage's son. But where are you going with your two diff rinnegan theory?

Also, i read mentions of this golden byakugan theory. where is it? can someone pls post a link? google didnt seem to get me very satisfactory page on that.
1) Maybe its just me but this looks like a pattern and not something a boulder or Zetsu goo would cause.
http://www.likenaruto.com/manga/Naruto/599/15/

2) Well all I'm saying is that accroding to Tobi's story, there was a time when 2 pairs of rinnegan's existed at the same time, the Sage's and his Elder Son who inherited his father's eyes. We've all seen the pictures and the dojutsu his son had, did not look like the rinnegan but it was DESCRIBED as being the same as his father's.

So where I'm going with this is that what if the rinnegan Madara awakened was the Eldest Son's and not the Sage's original? What if the Tablet was written by the Eldest Son and not the Sage?

Basically, I'm just asking questions and throwing a lil theory out there. That's all
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2) Well all I'm saying is that accroding to Tobi's story, there was a time when 2 pairs of rinnegan's existed at the same time, the Sage's and his Elder Son who inherited his father's eyes. We've all seen the pictures and the dojutsu his son had, did not look like the rinnegan but it was DESCRIBED as being the same as his father's.
Just a little correction there, the First Son's eyes weren't described as being the same as his father's, what was said is that the First Son inherited the RS' "eye" power. In other words, the First Son had access to Doujutsu as his father was, but not to the same Doujutsu. Hopefully that'll clear things up.
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Just a little correction there, the First Son's eyes weren't described as being the same as his father's, what was said is that the First Son inherited the RS' "eye" power. In other words, the First Son had access to Doujutsu as his father was, but not to the same Doujutsu. Hopefully that'll clear things up.
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-31099-1...apter-462.html

Well I don't know if this translation is the most accurate but it does say unambiguiously, that he was born with the Sage's eyes, as oppose to what you are saying.

It confusing though and I am not insisting I'm right or you are wrong, but this particular translation is what I'm basing my theory on
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Well I don't know if this translation is the most accurate but it does say unambiguiously, that he was born with the Sage's eyes, as oppose to what you are saying.
It says "eyes", not simply eyes. There's an euphemism there, denoting the eyes aren't the same as we can see in the picture that accompanies the speech bubble.
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It says "eyes", not simply eyes. There's an euphemism there, denoting the eyes aren't the same as we can see in the picture that accompanies the speech bubble.
Bloody hell Num, I had to go in the dictionary just to find out what euphemism means. Thanks though, you taught me a new word. Yeah I see what you mean and it makes sense.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

Ok, but what about Obito's face, do you think its a scar or a pattern? In my opinion it looks remarkably like the pattern design of his masks and kamui in action.
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Ok, but what about Obito's face, do you think its a scar or a pattern? In my opinion it looks remarkably like the pattern design of his masks and kamui in action.
Common sense would say it is the scar from the boulders. But since this is Kishi, my money is on Madara being a bigger pedophile than Orochimaru.


I miss the good ole days of Jiraya's perviness.
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Common sense would say it is the scar from the boulders. But since this is Kishi, my money is on Madara being a bigger pedophile than Orochimaru.


I miss the good ole days of Jiraya's perviness.
Loool I hear you man.

Shouldn't a boulder just squash your face, indent it rather than leave those scars/lines?

I miss Jman too. Itachi is my favorite character and I'm a self confessed Itachi wanker but Jirayai was Kishi's greatest character in terms of depth, likability and perviness.

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Common sense would say it is the scar from the boulders. But since this is Kishi, my money is on Madara being a bigger pedophile than Orochimaru.
How is that common sense when no other mark is anywhere on obito's body much less his right side...? COmmn sense would be, obito's face is messed up in a similar pattern to his kamui vortex and that if it can warp space time then by using kamui so close to that side of his face... it has likely warped it into the ugly you a see.
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Actually read more of the thread just now. People were whining about mods being big meanies who would rather ban some loser like KYF over someone that is actually breaking the lolrules. And how a mod and a mob of angry bullies always pick on people. I'm assuming the mod is suppose to be me.

Goddamn guys, this isn't like most other forums. My different colored name doesn't mean anything in regards to the discussion. I also could ban KYF and the rest of you gallant knights who so valiantly defend his maidenhood right now if I felt like it, and not a single fuck would be given. I wouldn't 'get in any trouble' or anything. No one would care. Literally the only thing stopping me from doing it is me choosing not to do it. I'd rather this place be where people can speak freely, even if it means dumbasses like some of you get to post a bunch of crybaby bullshit.

Which is also the reason I let you guys go off topic. It doesn't really matter most of the time, there isn't much to say other than "And another stupid chapter of naruto, neato" anyway, so whatever. And if you all weren't such huge idiots then it'd all work rather nicely. Talk about what you want to talk about. Don't talk about shit you don't want to talk about. It's that fucking easy. Getting into and continuing an off-topic discussion and then crying about people going off topic is one of the stupidest things I've read this week. And I read the latest naruto chapter this week, so that's pretty fucking bad.

Also, I'd only enforce stupid forum rules on people who want them enforced. So I'd only end up banning the retards, basically. I'm way too much of a benevolent hero to punish people because a few crybabies got their diapers in a bunch.


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Well I don't know if this translation is the most accurate but it does say unambiguiously, that he was born with the Sage's eyes, as oppose to what you are saying.

It confusing though and I am not insisting I'm right or you are wrong, but this particular translation is what I'm basing my theory on
and "the younger son was born with sage's body" ... doesnt mean that there was two bodies of SOSP either,so its just as Num says
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