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Obito tells kakashi he's doing this because kakashi allowed rin to die...

How would he know she's dead obviously this kid was buried under rubble completely fucked should have died an yet he lives and knows rin is dead.

If he was saved by madara or whatever why not just go back to konoha this kid was pure like naruto was same mentality and all.. Yet somehow madara got to him. Y not escape back to konoha how can he know rin is dead if he himself was fucked beyond repair that his body parts basically consist of zetsu type goo..

We know he's fused with hashiramas cells maybe thats what kept him alive??

Could he perhaps be mind controlled by madara or some type of mind jutsu placed in him its been done before on kabuto and yurra by sasori..

I'm not trying to see obito in a "goodie" light just makes no sense that he knows rin is dead if he had time to spy on them maybe he was never in konohas side maye this whole thig was set up for him to disappear... Madara could possibly be his great great grandfather..

stubborn_d0nkey

More altered than controlled, same way as his powerup

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Myth

That could be true too kakashi did say the only uchiha with enough power to summon and control the kyuubi was madara so its not something "any" uchiha cAn do..

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After Obito's explaination, nobody better call Sasuke EMO anymore, Obito Tops All Uchihas in that department IMHO. To be so 'smart, and knowledgeble' he sounded younger and dumber than both Naruto and Sasuke combined. 'You let Rin die'.... lol, Obito's still what he's always been in my mind, a FUCKING CLOWN.

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I really dont see obito being controlled by genjutsu, maybe it was just like obito and sasuke relationship (or orochimaru and sasuke). Found him, healed him, trained him, maybe he just gained trust in madara. Have a feeling obito thought of him as a teacher after sometime together, who knows? I just wonder how rin died, cause i would have guessed that she was still alive, till this chapter.

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At this point, only one expert to ask this question to:

Is Obito being controlled?

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ninjalostboy95

My sources say no.

Konnaha_yellow_flash

I am more inclined to believe someone is using a zetsu version of obito's body the same way Nagato was using Yahiko for deva realm...

this situation is just too similar...

Nagato lost Yahiko, so he used Yahiko's body, went by the name of pain, but was actually nagato...

"????????" loses Obito, so he uses obito's body, but because of the age and damage to it... Obito is grown like the way hashirama was (his body is put into the plant like yamato's which gives the zetsu clones their power...) it would be a zetsu body with the strength of a real body though, which is why obito's body is not shit weak...
SO loses obito, makes a new obito, goes by another name "tobi", but actually is "????????" who is remote controlling the body from somewhere (the kamui dimension if I had to guess)...

I am more inclined to believe that over mind controlling obito to act just like nagato...

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royalmage

But we haven't seen any chakra rods or any other transmitter. It could've been the mask but it was destroyed. And tobi did the six paths himself to the jinks. Hard for me to believe XXX -> Tobi -> 6 jinks.

k-lai

I don't he's being controlled rather brainwashed. Remember the guy was dumb as a kid who easily cries. Put someone like Madara in front of him and he'd shit in his pants. Madara didn't even have to try and the rin issue was just a catalyst to the whole procedure

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

Nagato used chakra rods, but as a zetsu body Obito should be able to be remote controlled like the others...

It has already been established that hashirama is actually not dead, but his body is still alive grown from the tissue taken from the fight with him and madara... So then obito could still be alive for the same reason... he was grown from tissue of his and implanted with a SG which became his own... It could explain...

:WHy obito is still alive, having survived being crushed by boulders yet showing no scars or trauma from being completely crushed...

:Why obito is made of zetsu material and can use zetsu material to heal himself...

: Why obito is so strong... If obito was grown with his tissue using the zetsu material then some of hashirama's cells were mixed with his own... and as an uchiha he would mix well and become a more "complete" shinobi as tobi said... having the power of the elder son; the power uchiha and some of the younger son from hashirama...

: And what I find most interesting is the possibility of the zetsu obito actually being controlled by someone else, in the kamui dimension...

Here are some panels to show the things I have been claiming...

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And what makes me believe someone is in the kamui dimension, thus likely controlling tobito body... is the fact that tobito sucked up Fuu and torune while sasuke and karin were still in the kamui dimension after tobito sucked them up at the kage meeting, but never let them out until tobito came in the dimension himself after sucking up fuu and torune, let sasuke and karin out, then sat and watched danzou v sasuke battle...

However, tobito claimed that he put fuu and torune in a genjutsu the moment he sucked them up (also tied their hands up because they are)...

Contractions...

: sasuke and karin were already in there when fuu and torune were sucked up yet they (fuu and torune) were not there... only sasuke and karin as opposed to both karin and sasuke along with both torune and fuu...
So where were they considering they were sucked up just like sasuke and karin thus put in the same dimension where all four should have been waiting for tobito when he came to release sasuke and karin to fight danzou ...

Although, tobito could have sucked them up and transporting them to a location where the tobito controller was, able to put fuu and torune in a genjutsu once they arrived then tied them up... However, I doubt it... I think tobito has to use his kamui dimension to short cut to anywhere in the naruto world...

: Tobito never went into kamui to put fuu and torune into an illusion to make them vegetables while also tying their hands up... He went and got sasuke/karin right after he sucked up fuu and torune to battle danzou... then sat and watched the fight, then sucked up danzou's dead body, then went with it to his uchiha lab to extract shisui's eye,
then went to replace his arm and change cloths and finally came back to help sasuke against naruto, sakura and kakashi, then sucked himself and sasuke up; transporting them to the bone hideout to transplant itachi's eyes into sasuke, then went and fetched the RG from konan, ect ect...
there might of been a small window of time for torune and fuu to be put in genjutsu and tied up while tobito was changing his cloths and getting a new arm, but it's unlikely...

: Tobito is known for his powerful ninjutsu... almost no genjutsu at all, just one except any MS user could do the same... He, tobito, has time space ninjutsu, katon ninjutsu, barrier ninjutsu, seals ninjutsu, ect ect... The only time a version of short haired tobi used a genjutsu was on the kyuubi, but the MS is known for it's power to control the kyuubi though so that is not saying much... Basically saying the MS performed it's most basic ability (Kyuubi taming and control)...

So tobito could not of put fuu and torune under genjutsu and tied their hands up right when he captured them, as he said... and tobito is not known for any genjutsu abilities so there must be someone else in the kamui dimension in (some other part of the dimension) that is controlling the zestu tobito body because he, whoever he is... is the only one who could of put fuu and torune under a genjutsu then tied them up eight when they were captured...

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Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
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emachina

I had to stop, give me a decent answer I'll continue reading. But, how can you suspect Hashirama is alive after Orochimaru summoned his soul back to fight Sarutobi, who then sealed his soul in the death god? Are you saying that Tobito or Kabuto have living Hashirama cells? Please clarify. Cause I think that's what you mean, but not quite sure.

Encon Uchiha

Its the curse of the Uchiha. Hatred.

Ultimately this curse overtakes the Uchihas mind and controls their actions.

Madara has the hatred for his clan for betraying him and for Senju for defeating him

Itachi has the hatred against war,he hates the blood and violence and he'd do anything to stop it...(kill his whole clan and brainwash his younger brother to become a savior)

Obito has the hatred against the world for letting him live in a world where his loved has died.

Sasuke has the hatred against his brother for killing his clan and then Konoha for putting his brother through so much pain.

The Curse of the Uchiha.

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What about Izuna?

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