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Old 09-01-2006, 11:44 PM   #16
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

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I believe once Naruto learns how to combine the wind element with the Resengan, he will not only get a new ultimate jutsu, he will gain, basically, complete control of his chakra like never before. It won't be Naruto with a new jutsu, it will be a NEW Naruto all together.

To me, that says that a ninja's overall power will explode in all aspects once he is able to do this. Kishi would not have added that Naruto could surpass Kakashi with this training if it wasn't going to happen.

This training doesn't JUST give him a new jutsu, but drastically improves him in all areas of fighting - in my opinion. Remember, this is something Kakashi and the 4th couldn't figure out how to do (and the 4th argubably being the greatest ninja of all and Kakashi with a genius IQ). To be able to do that, he will have to surpass them in the ability to create jutsu's. He WILL have to improve in most areas - this isn't something that can be done out of shear determination or power. This is something that has to be done with skill and, honestly, it will actually force Naruto to use his brain (something he does need to improve upon). This excercise to me will just improve Naruto all around.

I think you nailed it with this one
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:51 PM   #17
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

What I think is when he masters how to control both nature manipulation and shape manipulation he will be advanced to the Jonin level. Kakashi said that very few people are able to combine both, and combining both is one of the marks of a jonin (the other I believe was having two elemental chakras.)
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:55 AM   #18
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

I may be kinda new to this but I think there were a few things said earlier that sound pretty good. I definetely think that when Naruto figures out how to use nature manipulation and shape manipulation, that will enable Naruto to perform just about any jutsu out there.
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Old 09-02-2006, 07:58 AM   #19
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

Naruto already mastered form manipulation, it is called Rasengan and it is the highest form manipulation ever. Naruto also mastered his natured chakra manipulation(Wind). The trick is for Naruto to combine these two manipulations to create a brand new attack. Something that is not the Rasengan, something much stronger. A complete powerful Justu that is way more powerful than that half jutsu Rasengan. An S-ranked or S-ranked+ Ninjutsu attack.

When Naruto combines these two elements he will surpass Kakashi and The Fourth Hokage no doubt. The best Ninja from the leaf village who created the highest form of shape manipulation (Rasengan) was The Fourth Hokage and he could not put his natured chakra(wind) into Rasengan. Kakashi who is also a great Ninja could not put his natured chakra(lightning) into it as well..

It takes a special talent, something that Naruto has. The completion of this difficult task would lead to many great things I belive. Not only would Naruto gain an awsome attack, he will also improve greatly as a Ninja all around. He will most likely develop a new jutsu following after he combines these two manipulations. The Naruto we use to know will change for the better. And with the Mass Shadow Clone Jutsu at his will, he will learn to combine these two manipulations rather quickly and he will benefit from it a thousand times, if that many shadow clones are used, which is likely to happen because at the end of the manga, it looks like Naruto is about to do the Mass Shadow Clone Jutsu..

Also earlier in Naruto's training, Kakashi said that it is good to have a thousand shadow clones with him because he could learn something that would take 20 years, in just 6 weeks.. Or how long it takes for Naruto to combine these manipulations with 1000 shadow clones..

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Old 09-03-2006, 01:54 AM   #20
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

ye maybe but i am thinking it's just part of his training and then he might learn a new technique
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Old 09-03-2006, 02:54 AM   #21
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

for everyone here saying naruto isnt gonna surpass kakashi....
didnt kakashi state that with this traing naruto will surpass him...

now as for the wind and rasengan..hrmmm all i can say is damn that will be one destructive force
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

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for everyone here saying naruto isnt gonna surpass kakashi....
didnt kakashi state that with this traing naruto will surpass him...
yep he did say that!
i think what most people here are forgetting is the fact that to surpass doesn't equal to be stronger^^.
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:54 PM   #24
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

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talk about being agressive , if ur not completely beyond zero iq, a jutsu does not maker u more powerful than others unless u use them, its not like the second he learns the new jutsu he is able to beat kakashi dead beat! even if u had the most powerful jutsu in the world, but u were slow and stupid, u couldnt win a single fight, cept vs a rock
in the fights naruto tricked many genius and more stronger opponents like kakashi, zabuto, kiba, negi and how knows someday he might trick akusaki leader?
don't forget that naruto is no.1 ninja in surprising his opponents.
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:24 PM   #25
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Something even Yondaime couldnt do. Its a lil disappointing that it isnt a totally new jutsu. However according to Kakashi once hes done he could become stronger than Kakashi.

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not stronger than Kakashi
he will just be able to do something Kakashi can't
how could he defeat Kakashi with a rasengan? : S That's ridiculous
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not stronger than Kakashi
he will just be able to do something Kakashi can't
how could he defeat Kakashi with a rasengan? : S That's ridiculous
I agree. How could one jutsu possibly make him any stronger than Kakashi? One that can be dodged as easily as a punch.
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

It's not just about learning the move. It's about chakra control. He already was stated as having 2 times more chakra than Kakashi, and said he could get up to 100 times more with this training. Seriously go back to 315, As long as yamato keeps the nine-tails in check, it could be 100 times more. Of course he's gonna be stronger than kakashi. He's gonna be alot better all around after this. Plus he has a new way of training with the clones. His potential for growth far exceeds any ninja around. I don't get it cause they say all of this in the manga. His new jutsu is gonna be a crazy ass move and i doubt the sharingan will be able to copy. Naruto is the man, and is strong as hell without the fox. This new move is gonna take everyone by surprise i think.

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Did you see how when he added the wind element all the clones flew away.
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

I think thats how the final move will be.
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It's not just about learning the move. It's about chakra control. He already was stated as having 2 times more chakra than Kakashi, and said he could get up to 100 times more with this training. Seriously go back to 315, As long as yamato keeps the nine-tails in check, it could be 100 times more. Of course he's gonna be stronger than kakashi. He's gonna be alot better all around after this. Plus he has a new way of training with the clones. His potential for growth far exceeds any ninja around. I don't get it cause they say all of this in the manga. His new jutsu is gonna be a crazy ass move and i doubt the sharingan will be able to copy. Naruto is the man, and is strong as hell without the fox. This new move is gonna take everyone by surprise i think.
I agree. When Naruto learns that move, it dosen't mean he'll beat everyone with that move only. Naruto learning that jutsu also proves that his chakra controling abilities have increased. So he'll be able to use other jutsus with more power. So he'll be stronger that Kakashi or maybe even the 4th.
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