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Old 09-17-2006, 02:32 AM   #76
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I don't think his new Jutsu would look anything like Rasengan. Remeber after Naruto combines these two manpulations he will develop a brand new Jutsu. He would use this completed Jutsu and recreate it in his own way. So the 100% Rasengan, would just be used as a basis to create his own orginal new jutsu.

My Idea on how his New Jutsu would look like:
But I do kinda think that it would resemble a tornado like others have said. Naruto summons a large hurricane that is the color blue(like Rasengan), he thrusts the attack forward and the enemy attempts to get out of the way but it spearates into mini tornados that raps and circles the enemy imediately, then Naruto uses his chakra to pull them closer to the target. The attack would be so massive and fast, that it would be impossible to counter or evade. The fast winds would cut the opponent into shreads and the power of Rasengan would burn the enemy, or damage them according to how strong Naruto makes the winds. While the enemy is getting sliced and diced, Naruto unleashes a massive wind attack that shatters everthing in his path. Remeber Naruto did master that move, when he was cutting the Waterfall.

If it looked like that, then that would be a Jutsu that is impossible to get free from. But I can's wait to see how Naruto's New Jutsu would turn out. The suspense is just to much.
Well it kinda sounds like piccolo's Hellzone Grenade.
And wow so much power......but if the jutsu does end up like you said, it will consume a hell lot of chakra.
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

Yeah, the move will probably be horrible on sucking up chakra. Usually the greater the power, the more power it takes to use. I don't believe it's a move Naruto would be able to use over and over again in battle. Maybe 1-3 times in battle, 3 may be even stretching it. 1 is probably too low, I'll say 2. Never know though.

Here's a thought, though. This could be way off base, but I believe there may be a chance Kishi had Naruto learn the Rasengan the way he did- not just for an easier way of having him do it- but maybe because it would be the only way for him combine the nature and the mold of chakra as one?

As if Kishi was thinking WAY ahead. That could be completely wrong, but it may come to be truth.
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

the move will use a very huge amount of chakra, but i think naruto will handle it with his chakra and kyuubi's. I wonder if this move is more destructive than the ball of chakra of naruto's fourth tail transformation...
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the move will use a very huge amount of chakra, but i think naruto will handle it with his chakra and kyuubi's. I wonder if this move is more destructive than the ball of chakra of naruto's fourth tail transformation...
He made a promise that he won't use kyubii's chakra, remember?
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

right, sorry about that, but mastering this move it's turning a little difficult to naruto, don't know why he lose control...
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However according to Kakashi once hes done he could become stronger than Kakashi.

Discuss.
And according to the translation from Shannaro, he would surpass Kakashi in a way of speaking.

Fortunately, there is a huge difference. Naruto surpassing Kakashi with one jutsu would ruin Naruto forever.
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:56 AM   #82
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And according to the translation from Shannaro, he would surpass Kakashi in a way of speaking.

Fortunately, there is a huge difference. Naruto surpassing Kakashi with one jutsu would ruin Naruto forever.
It is not just one Jutsu. He is learning how to master his natured chakra(Wind) and combining the highest form manipulation (Rasengan) with his natured chakra. This will push Naruto pass his limits. he will greatly improve in strength, and all around attributes, people normally can't combine these two manipulations as a whole, But Naruto is being train to combine the strongest Form manipulation with Nature manipulation, that could only mean that his power would sky rocket.

Also since this training involved Naruto using the shadow clones, he has greatly improve his strength in a brief amont of time. After the training is finished, Naruto won't just have a brand New Ninjutsu, he would have multiplied in pure strength determining how many shadow clones he used. Besides, Naruto is being train to control wind, so Naruto will have become a masterful Wind Ninja.

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Old 09-17-2006, 10:35 AM   #83
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It is not just one Jutsu. He is learning how to master his natured chakra(Wind) and combining the highest form manipulation (Rasengan) with his natured chakra. This will push Naruto pass his limits. he will greatly improve in strength, and all around attributes, people normally can't combine these two manipulations as a whole, But Naruto is being train to combine the strongest Form manipulation with Nature manipulation, that could only mean that is power would sky rocket.

Also since this training involved Naruto using the shadow clones, he has greatly improve his strength in a brief amont of time. After the training is finished, Naruto won't just have a brand New Ninjutsu, he would have multiplied in pure strength determining how many shadow clones he used. Besides, Naruto is being train to control wind, so Naruto will have become a masterful Wind Ninja.
Yea. This training will not only give him a powerful new jutsu, it will also improve his chakra skills and ninjutsus. His jutsus will be stronger than before. And who knows....naruto may unleash all his chakra and gain a new appearence. Just like how chouji's appearence changed when he took the red pill.
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It is not just one Jutsu. He is learning how to master his natured chakra(Wind) and combining the highest form manipulation (Rasengan) with his natured chakra. This will push Naruto pass his limits. he will greatly improve in strength, and all around attributes, people normally can't combine these two manipulations as a whole, But Naruto is being train to combine the strongest Form manipulation with Nature manipulation, that could only mean that his power would sky rocket.

Also since this training involved Naruto using the shadow clones, he has greatly improve his strength in a brief amont of time. After the training is finished, Naruto won't just have a brand New Ninjutsu, he would have multiplied in pure strength determining how many shadow clones he used. Besides, Naruto is being train to control wind, so Naruto will have become a masterful Wind Ninja.

Thank you. I'm not the only one he realizes that. lol
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Old 09-17-2006, 12:40 PM   #85
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

Kakashi will still pwn him badly.
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Kakashi will still pwn him badly.
If Naruto completes his training I don't know how Kakashi would match Naruto. With out Kyuubi's chakra Naruto already has 2x as much chakra as Kakashi. If Yamato can keep the Kyuubi's chakra in check till the training ends, Naruto's chakra level could sky rocket to 100x more. That is a hell of alot of chakra. Naruto already has Kakashi beat in terms of level of Chakra, Naruto has a stamina level that is unhuman, somthing Kakashi don't have.

The only thing Naruto lacks is his IQ level. I think this training will improve on that also. He won't be a total genious, but he will be smart enough to come up with more devasting moves, actually he has Kakashi beat in terms of suprise attacks. Kakashi is also more talented than Naruto, but after the training is done, Naruto will surpass Kakashi. Kakashi himself even said that, he also said that Naruto could surpass the 4th Hokage. Kakashi would not have said that it if was not true. Naruto is not a child anymore. it is time for him to be treated like a full blown ninja. Kakashi would not lie just to make Naruto feel better.

You act like the student can't pass the teacher. Gaara could destroy his sensi if he wanted to. But that is another story, and Gaara has changed.

Belive it or not, but Sasuke might well be stronger than Kakashi. Actually I think he is. If Sasuke is on par with Oro than Kakashi has nothing on Sasuke. If Naruto wants to beat Sasuke, he must train and become stronger than Sasuke. That is the only way, no draws this time. He must risk losing a friend, or maybe not truely destroy him, but at least break a limb or two. That will set Sasuke straight.

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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

While it would take 10 seconds for Kakashi to destroy Sasuke, it would take 1 sec for Orochimaru to do it. Please get real.

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While it would take 10 seconds for Kakashi to destroy Sasuke, it would take 1 sec for Orochimaru. Please get real.
Are you serious? Kakashi is good an all, but he can't take Orochimaru. That is stuff Kakashi should not meddle with, it could mean the destruction of Kakashi. In overall terms of secret moves and Kinjutsu, poor Kakashi would have been made into a bloody pulp. Even Kakashi knows that..

Well Kakashi might be able to beat Sasuke, maybe. They both have fully developed Sharingan, but Sasuke has 2. Although Kakashi's eye has developed something new. It would be a close match, but Sasuke also has alot of chakra, not as much as Naruto, but I think he could get the job done. Sasuke is very fast, and his advaced skills might be alittle to much for Kakashi in my opinion.
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Re: Naruto's new jutsu: Adding wind element to rasengan.

I'm afraid this is a misunderstanding. Orochimaru is superior to Kakashi. Altho he might have caught up a bit during the timeskip.
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Yeah, the move will probably be horrible on sucking up chakra. Usually the greater the power, the more power it takes to use. I don't believe it's a move Naruto would be able to use over and over again in battle. Maybe 1-3 times in battle, 3 may be even stretching it. 1 is probably too low, I'll say 2. Never know though.

Here's a thought, though. This could be way off base, but I believe there may be a chance Kishi had Naruto learn the Rasengan the way he did- not just for an easier way of having him do it- but maybe because it would be the only way for him combine the nature and the mold of chakra as one?

As if Kishi was thinking WAY ahead. That could be completely wrong, but it may come to be truth.
speaking of kishi thinking way ahead, in maga chapter#4,there is a picture with naruto on a frog,sasuke on a snake,and sakura on a snail,so i think kishimoto really has it planned out!
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