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Old 11-20-2012, 08:23 AM   #1
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:35 AM   #2
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Cool color page at the beginning. It's nice to see Kubo move away from insanely bishi a bit and cough up something more distinguished.

Kuwabara is a healer, didn't see that coming. He pretty much told Unohana to go do some laundry and let the real doctor handle things. The chick with the hands is pretty impressive, she did all that shit from that spot, it speaks volumes about her range.

About the back and forth they had with Soifon, I'm with her. I don't care what their job description entails, if they are so powerful and saw that SS was about to be destroyed wouldn't it make more sense to minimize casualties by helping ? If all forces were to get decimated it would leave them without a line of defense.

Cliff hanger happened and that is it. Ok chapter.
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They also seem unaffected by Yama's supposed death, and isn't interested in Aizen at all. Weird, but funny to see Capts' checked like Vice Capts, or seats.
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Well... at least the title led me to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9TGj2jrJk8
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I knew I recognized this from somewhere.

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Re: Bleach 517

Looks like Kisuke is back (secretly hoping it is Isshin though).

I'm hoping that Isshin is like the son of the King of SS and Masaki is the daughter of Juha Bach or whomever the leader of the Quincies is. Nice little Romeo and Juliet twist there, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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So fatty was Hikifune, my mistake. Also, what the hell is with the female Nnoitora?
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very nice chapter.
I agree with the healing guy, their job is to protect the king not soul society.
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So fatty was Hikifune, my mistake. Also, what the hell is with the female Nnoitora?
Yeah but apparently she's physically changed a lot from what Shinji said. Wonder if we'll get a flashback showing what she use to look like? I also wonder why she changed and if it'll be explained. I want to see Hiyori's reaction to seeing the new Hikifune.
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Re: Bleach 517

Overall I'm liking this arc a lot. I don't think the Zero Squad guy was downplaying Unohana's skill when he said her job isn't to heal anymore, rather that they're going to need her to fight. And I expect she'll be very powerful.
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About the back and forth they had with Soifon, I'm with her. I don't care what their job description entails, if they are so powerful and saw that SS was about to be destroyed wouldn't it make more sense to minimize casualties by helping ? If all forces were to get decimated it would leave them without a line of defense.
I completely disagree with you about this. If there were a riot in Washington D.C., you wouldn't tell the Secret Service officers to leave the presidents side to go help to local cops. If anything that just a bigger reason for them to not leave his side.

What if the Quincy had developed their own way of entering the Kings Palace that nobody new about and only invaded SS as a mean of distracting the Zero Squad so another Quincy Team could kill the King while he's undefended. I'm not saying that's the plan, but people in their positions have to think about all the possibilities, and take cautions against these things.

Also what would happen if the Quincy had stole the powers from Zero Squad? SS (and the rest of the universe) would be completely beyond fucked. Perhaps some counter measure against them will now be developed that will give the Zero Squad (and the rest of SS) an edge in the next battle that they would have lacked had they come in and fought (and horribly died) in the last fight.

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The guy flat out said Byakuya will die if he stays there, and that Unohana couldn't heal those people but he could. The arrogant way in which he was talking to Unohana was clearly meant to be condescending and degrading.
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Re: Bleach 517

I'm wondering about the guy from Zero Division who was not heard from at all this chapter.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v53/c517/3.html

The guy in sunglasses wasn't involved at all in this interaction. And the arm chick and Mayuri seem to have a backstory.
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The guy flat out said Byakuya will die if he stays there, and that Unohana couldn't heal those people but he could. The arrogant way in which he was talking to Unohana was clearly meant to be condescending and degrading.
He's more condescending in the beginning. They appear to have a student/teacher relationship, so it was probably meant to be more playful than insulting. At the end he insists he take care of Byakuya and says "What you're meant to do now... is not healing."

I think she's going to be a major player this arc. Reminder her battle data is higher than Kyoraku and Ukitake's in the databook.

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He's more condescending in the beginning. They appear to have a student/teacher relationship, so it was probably meant to be more playful than insulting. At the end he insists he take care of Byakuya and says "What you're meant to do now... is not healing."

I think she's going to be a major player this arc. Reminder her battle data is higher than Kyoraku and Ukitake's in the databook.
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I completely disagree with you about this. If there were a riot in Washington D.C., you wouldn't tell the Secret Service officers to leave the presidents side to go help to local cops.
If the secret service was full of overpowered super soldiers that could dish out more pain than all of the cops in DC combined and the president was in a location that required special means to gain entrance into I would.

It doesn't make sense that the 0 squad didn't help which is what Soifon was pointing out. If they are more powerful than the 13 squads, which includes Yamamoto the guy that incinerated several of the invaders on his own, had they sent 2-3 people down to SS this crap would be over. Yes, their job is to protect the king, but damn it weren't they watching the fight ?

Several captains survived their battles even with their Bankai being locked due to the circumstances, meaning the enemy wasn't that freaking powerful. From where I'm standing the opportunity for a surprise attack in order to end things was there. As for the king, it has been established that you need a key or some other shit to make it to his realm/palace so he/she/it would not be in immediate danger.

Not only was their inaction a stupid move but it all seems to stem from arrogance.

"You do your job I do mine. Even though had I helped you things would be over by now and there would have been a lot less casualties."

That is just shitty writing in my opinion.

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What if the Quincy had developed their own way of entering the Kings Palace that nobody new about and only invaded SS as a mean of distracting the Zero Squad so another Quincy Team could kill the King while he's undefended. I'm not saying that's the plan, but people in their positions have to think about all the possibilities, and take cautions against these things.

Also what would happen if the Quincy had stole the powers from Zero Squad? SS (and the rest of the universe) would be completely beyond fucked. Perhaps some counter measure against them will now be developed that will give the Zero Squad (and the rest of SS) an edge in the next battle that they would have lacked had they come in and fought (and horribly died) in the last fight.
While these are reasonable, possible scenarios I don't think the events of the manga back it up. Let's be real here, the only worth while person among the Quincy was Juha. Ganking the bastard and ending shit would have been the right move. As for the Quincy possibly having the means to get into the palace, wouldn't it have been a much more effective strategy to go to the palace directly ?

The element of surprise would cause disarray among the royal guard making them too occupied to fetch help from the 13 squads, and should the Quincy be victorious it would leave the King exposed. Engaging the lower troops in this case would be retarded as it would alert the royal guard and give them a chance to observe the Quincy in action.

Edit: Just to add to my comment about Juha being the only threat.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v53/c510/11.html

He was the only one that could steal Yama's Bankai, meaning had he not been there the old man would have cleaned the house. If the 5 can produce even the low figure of twice the Old man's power there was no way Juha would have been able to withstand a group attack since he had to render Yama Bankailess before taking him out.

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