Dagoro

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/624

Here it is.

__________________

apacolypz

well ...the ultimatum has been given....so Tobirama killed Izuna...and Madara is asking for Tobirama's head in return for peace....interesting....quick but.decent chapter indeed


EDIT: wonder what that move what Tobirama used...something that a sharingan should have picked up? that panel where he was wounded was quite odd..since both brothers should of had MS by then...why wasn't Izuna shown with his sharingan active? So did that move have something to do with Tobirama's T/S technique?

DRAGONBPY

Tobi said Madara went blind and Izuna gave his MS for the clan to Madara and died fighting on the field blind. This shows otherwise. Kishi you are such a champ

apacolypz

well actually we didn't see Izuna die...Madara says that he later died from the wounds Tobirama inflicted...Obito was the one speaking as if Izuna survived and lived on as blind support and died on the field...so far a lot of shit Obito spoke were obvious lies to get Sasuke to trust him and side with the Uchiha's hatred. So honestly this is the first time we actually heard the truth about the back story.

Vishnu

Decent chapter. Guys you're too radical. Apacolypz is right. Not everything that Obito said is cannon and cannot be contested. So far, Kishi hasn't screwed this up.

__________________
When other men blindly follow the truth remember:
Nothing is true!
When other men are limited by morality and law remember:
Everything is permitted!

gizmox

I thought we're going to see a chapter showing only battles when they were young. Good thing the phase is much faster than I expected. Good chapter IMO.

And again, another proof that Senju>Uchiha. So many evidences that Senjus are more superior than Uchihas yet other just can't accept that solid FACT.

Rikudounaruto

I don't like this chapter very much ;/

My First impression, it could be very good while I was reading first and second page.

It was great emotional battle between Senjuu and Uchiha:^_^, Izuna's sword clashing with Tobirama sword was epic:hip, but both fathers trying to kill each other sons, instead of attacking each other was let down for me:-_-. I wanted to see some Butsuma and Tajima fighting actions for 1 or two pages at least:-_-, with them using their nature and all. Izuna and Tobirama fighting actions could be great too. - FAIL


Going further into next pages, It was great idea for young Madara and young Hashirama protect each other younger borthers like bosses:hip. Exchange of dialogs and thoughts between Hashirama and Madara was very good, I could almost feel what they were feeling then.

Young Madara admiting that he is weaker than Hashirama is bullshit:no, he shouldn't know it even if Hahshirama was realy stronger back then. Maybe it was Madara excuse to avoid him fighting Hashirama and their fahters and brothers harming each other, it could pass well as reason.:mono

Young Madara showing Sharingan was great:hip, but it should be three tomoe sharingan and completly mastered:-_-. For damn sake Madara was living in time of unending wars, he should has sharingan awake as younger and now he should have three tomoe sharingan.
Let's remember Itachi awake his sharingan at eight, but Madara is pinacle of Uchiha clan, as prodigy he should be more talented and has sharingan already mastered considering times in which Madara was living:-_-. - FAIL

Next scan shows us short skirmishes between Madara and Hashirama as they were growing up:hip, then Tobirama killing Izuna with his Space Time Ninjutsu was ok, but why for damn sake Kishi didn't show us more Izuna and Tobirama skirmishes, big let down:-_-.
I wonder why Izuna didn't have MS activated while fighting with Tobirama, again BULLSHIT:-_-, they should be more or less equal - FAIL.

Then Madara acquired EMS and attack Hashirama:hip, but fight was offscreen and then Hashirama and Tobirama sitting down on rock are shown unwounded, BULLSHIT:-_-.
At least After battle with Madara EMS, Hashirama should be shown very exhausted, maybe even barerly conscionous. Even if he was unwounded it could mean that he used rest of his chakra to heal yours wounds from battle:mono. Only Tobirama should stand unwounded and ready to kill Madara after battle, Hashirama shouldn't has strength to even move his finger, rising his chakra to scare Tobirama was very badly written idea Kishi:-_- - FAIL

Talking was boring this time, nothing interesting I get from it. Finally Madara suggested great and evil idea to Hashirama:hip.

Chapter's rate: 5/10 (medium)

This chapter sucked a little because we didn't see Madara with tree tomoe sharingan back then as elite Uchiha it would be excepted. Lack of Butsuma and Tajima fighting actions and little to none of Tobirama against Izuna clash sucked a lot. Madara adimiting his inferiority to Hashirama back then was bullshit. Death of Izuna was climatic but sucked a lot, and fact that we didn't see Izuna fighting, showing fire release, sharingan and even better MS powers. Kishi didn't let Madara show his MS powers while fighting Hashirama was big let down for me too:-_-. Madara after gaining EMS should be mush stronger and hashirama shouldn't be fine and have some much power in him:-_-. If it was Madara with his own MS against hashirama then it would be great and understanable. Last scene was good.

Summary: Chapter was rushed by Kishi, because some fans complain how long these flashbacks are so they can't see current event, Shinobi Alliance against Juubi.
It is huge waste from Kishimoto part to listen to them, and rushing flashback to go to current events instead of taking some time more while developing better characters as Izuna for example.

I don't care how long flashback coud last, if they were good as previous chapters, it could even last until 630 chapter but no:-_-. At least I expect return to vote Battle to see great final of battle.

Sorry for my grammar or typing mistakes ;/
Have a good day guys

EDIT: I wonder if I can bring myself to write prediction after this chapter ehh

Numinous

Someone's going to get mad at this chapter... because Tobirama used Hirashingiri, which means "Flying Tunder God's Drill".

Yep, Minato's precious FTG is the same as Tobirama's FTG. Tobirama>Minato, u mad biatches?!

__________________

Aman Shahur

hachirama very similar for me...........hansome, courage fill, lot of strength hidden for the heart, brave.............kichi make me wait to long for this chapter..........

Numinous

Now that I've read this thread, people shouldn't really be surprised by Obito blurring a few truths. Like I said before, what he says is true until stated otherwise and, well, this was the "otherwise" about Izuna.

Also about Madara only awakening the Sharingan now: Kishimoto pretty much stated with Edo Tobirama that Sharingan comes not from talent but by emotional distress, hence why this hilariously dramatic revelation. Dumb as rocks, yes, but crappy canon is still canon.

@rikudounaruto

You can always try the fanfiction thread. At least you're not obliged to follow this chapter.

__________________

Tmoore

im jus sayin tobirama using ftg shows minato pretty much is a shinobi of borrowed justu from the uzumaki and senju

__________________

Rikudounaruto

Great idea , I will think about it Numinous.

Hmm... I have question guys, what do you think if this chapter don't come out, and instead it would go down like that:

This chapter(624): Kishi should focus on Tajima vs Butsuma battle, showing their abilities(Tai, Nin, Gen) then Izuna vs Tobirama with Madara and Hashirama fighting against each other or just watching. Chapter could ends with both Fathers piercing each other or both fathers pierced by enemies' older sons(Madara piercing Butsuma in defence of Izuna and Hashirama piercing Tajima in defence of Tobirama).

Chapter 625 could show Madara and Hashirama leaving along with their brothers with saying that next time they will meet they will be enemies. Then Madara and Izuna with three tomoe fully mastered sharingan fighting against Hashirama and Tobirama(they could be already clans leaders or no). It could ends with Hashirama and Tobirama meet Izuna and Madara after they gained MS.

Chapter 626 could show Madara and Izuna MS powers with Tobirama and Hashirama stand up to them, their counter for MS powers. Some scenes with Uchiha clan clashing with Senjuu clan, showing what average clansmen could do. Maybe we could see Uchiha women and Senjuu women. It could finish with Madara loosing his eyesight slowly as cliffhanger as Hashirama watch him sadly.

Chapter 627 could show Madara and Izuna leaving , then Hashirama and Tobirama talking with each other at Senjuu camp, exchanging their thoughts on Uchiha brothers. Madara with EMS appearing in front of Hashirama and Tobirama in one of Senjuu vs Uchiha battle could be cliffhanger

Chapter 628 could show little skirmish, with Hashirama offering truce, Madara didn't want to accept but under pressure of all clan he agree. Madara thoughts about Izuna death and anger rising. It could end with Madara leaving Konoha.

Chapter 629 could show peacful life in Konoha, until Madara arrives to challenge Hashirama. Madara vs Hashirama battle in vote begining with fastforwarding to their last clash as Madara using Kyuubi cloaked by Sussano against Sage mode Hashirama riding on Buddha with thousand of arms.

Chapter 630 could show result of battle with flashback finally end, then Sasuke would be shown thinking about it. Cliffhanger could be Sasuke asking Minato about Kyuubi attack of Konoha.

etc...

It could be entertaining and epic, but instead we get MS Izuna, MS Madara and three tomoe Izuna still featless, really good writing.

I repeat myself, Kishi wouldn't have to show us hundred of Madara and Hashirama battles, only with sharingan, then MS and it would be enough.

Could it be to slow paced or could it be alright ?

I need it to write my fanfic, it help me to wirtte better if you share your opinion with me

@Numinous, what is your opinion about it ?

kluang

Who needs consistency, right?

__________________

Numinous

@rikudounaruto:

From your chapter samples, I'd fuse those 7 chapters into only 3 (624-625/626-628/629-630) only due to Kishimoto's usual pacing. But their content is fine, so if you want to write it, go ahead.

__________________

Rikudounaruto

Hmm..., I agree with you about Kishi usual pacing. Yeah I will try to write and i hope it won't turn to be crap ;/, it will be my first time to write fanfic.

Anyway thanks for your time and opinion Numinous