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My theory about Rinne Tensei mechanics

Hello, I would like to share my opinion on this topic

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The Rinne Tensei probably is dependent on how long someone has been dead and numbers of dead people you want to ressurect.People who've been dead for awhile would require a large amount of chakra compared to someone who just died, more person you want to revive ,more amount of chakra it cost.
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#1. Kishi didn't make error with Rinne Tensei , I will explain mechanics of Rinne Tensei jutsu's mechanics as I see it.


1. To use full potential of Rinnengan, you have to have Senjuu and Uchiha DNA in one body.(Madara, Obito)
2. These who does'nt have Senjuu and Uchiha DNA in one body can't use full potential of Rinnengan (Nagato)
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Let's assume:

Incomplete Rinnengan user= Transplanted Rinnengan(with Senjuu DNA and Uchiha DNA):

1. Each day passed from your death is equal to 1 point of chakra.
2. Number points of chakra is equal to number of dead people who you ressurect with Rinne Tensei with one day passed from their death.
3. Each person with one day passed from their death equal is 1 chakra point.

Complete Rinnengan user= Orginal user(with Senjuu DNA and Uchiha DNA):

1. Each week passed from your death is equal to 1 point of chakra.
2. Number points of chakra is equal to number of dead people who you ressurect with Rinne Tensei with one day passed from their death.
3. Each person with week passed from their death equal is 1 chakra point.

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Rinnengan power is based on:

- power
- usage(comming with expierience)
- versality

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Mastery over limited Rinnengan jutsu arsenal with great versality

Avaliable for: Transplanted users(Nagato, Obito) and orginal users(Madara,SOSP)

- Full Potential of Rinnengan power and unlimited Rinnengan jutsu arsenal

Avaliable for: only orginal users(Madara,SOSP)

In other words, although Nagato has great mastery over Rinnengan jutsu, power of these techniques was limited as well as amount of Rinnengan jutsu. Nagato has a lot of expierience with using Rinnengan jutsu, but he was still limited, because these weren;t his orginal eyes, same with Obito , but he lacks expierience extra(that why he is worse at using Rinnengan, ), but thanks to Madara, his power of more limited than Nagato's Rinnengan jutsu arsenal are greater thank power of Nagato.

Example: Obito Outer path> Nagato outer path

Madara lack expierience with usage of Rinnengan, but as original user he has potential to use ulimited amount of Rinnegan jutsu's, as well as power of his jutsu would be at maximum power, so Madara has little knowledge about Rinnegan jutsu(outer path and Preta path only ), but still his jutsu so on entiere new level

Sage of six paths- original user with great amount of expierence = The best Rinnengan user, simple

Remember: Rinnengan allows one to use any jutsu he wants , then why Nagato didn't use any jutsu, Plot no jutsu to not kill Naruto then, maybe but I am more than sure only orginal wielder of Rinnengan can unlock full potential of Rinnegan power and versality of jutsu(arsenal) .

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Formuła of Rinne Tensei: RT= T*N

RT- Rinne Tensei
T- Time passed from death(1 point of chakra=1 day)
N- number of dead people

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Let's Analyze then situation of Nagato

For example Full power Nagato has 300 points of chakra. After using his chakra in fight against Konoha, then Sage mode Naruto, Kyuubi possesed Naruto Nagato was left with around 25 points of chakra.

Now if from everyone's deaths who died, in Konoha passed below than one day.(Let's assume it was 6 hours) ,(6 hours of 24 hours=1 day).


Result is 25 points of chakra costed Nagato to ressurect 100 konoha shinobi with six hours passed from their death.

But because Nagato has 25 chakra points, he died.

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Now let's discuss about Revival of Madara

Let's say Current full power Obito has 200 chakra points, but thanks to Senjuu DNA and Uchiha DNA in one body.

Each dead person with one week passed from their death cost - 1 chakra point. Remember Uchiha clan has powerfull spiritual energy so maybe one point of their chakra is equal to 7 points of normal ninja's chakra .

If from Madara's death passed 20 years., then RT = 1*4*14*20*1= 1120 chakra points

Conclusion: Obito doesn't have enough chakra to Revive Madara...

Madara may have 400 chakra points, but it could be still not enough.

Gyuuki(Hachibi) coul have 400 chakra points at full power, so with Killer Bee(100 chakra points), 400+100=500 chakra points

Let's assume Kurama has 800 chakra points at full power, and current Naruto in Bijuu mode has 600 chakra points(400 half of kurama's + 200 Naruto's), so it still could be not enough to work.


Naruto Bijuu mode max potential power has potential to get (800+200 =1000 chakra points), still could be not enough


That's when Juubi come handy

Juubi first form - 800 chakra point

Juubi second form - 1200 chakra points

Juubi last form - infinite chakra points

Obito connected to Juubi could ressurect Madara and probably lives on, but maybe one of mechanic of Rinne Tensei is that you have to have more than enough amount chakra to survive without dying. In other words, Obito could ressurect Madara with external source of chakra(Juubi) but his own ammount of chakra couldn't be enough so he would die after process.

Obito + Juubi second form= 1400 points

Remember that Madara's revival could cost 1120 chakra points to work, so Obito with Juubi second form will have more than enough

1400>1120 (Madara ressurection will work) 200<1120(user of Rinne Tensi will die after process)

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Summary: Number of dead people you want to revive and time passed from death depend on your amount chakra, making revival possible when it is enough and impossible when it is not enough

I hope you get what I tried to explain
I know I used many assumptions, but I tried my best to explain my theory about working of Rinne Tensei.

Nevertheles it could go agree with:

1. Konan's statment in manga about Nagato's amount of chakra not be enough to ressurect them and live on.

2. Nagato's statment that there is still time to ressurect people in Konoha.

3. Madara statment that he could be ressurected with Rinne Tensei.

Do you agree with my theory or not ?

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My thoughts:

- Sage of six paths in his prime before Juubi could have 800 chakra points

- Obito or Madara as Jyuubi perfect form jinchurki could ressurect even Sage of six paths(due to Juubi's infinite amount of chakra )

- About Yahiko, it could be tha Nagato wanted to follow his own way to reach peace, or due to Six paths of pain, he modified body of Yahiko, so he couldn't ressurect him even if he has enough amount of chakra.

Let's imagine Sage of six paths COAT + Rinne Tensei= Total ressurection of any number of people

Creation of all things(create you new body), Rinne Tensei(ressurect you to your new body created by COAT)

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