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Old 07-31-2013, 09:28 PM   #31
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Something just occurred to me. HOW THE FUCK DID THE 2ND HOKAGE DIE IF HE HAD FTG!!!

When he and his team where being chased by those 20 or so bounty hunter guys, he volunteered himself to be the decoy so the others could get away. So why not put one of his seals on Danzo or Hiruzen and FTG to their location once they had got a little distance, and keep fucking living.

Man the plot holes in the manga are deepening.
And how the heck did Hashirama die.
He's holding his own against Edo Madara(Madara with the Rinnegan)
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Something just occurred to me. HOW THE FUCK DID THE 2ND HOKAGE DIE IF HE HAD FTG!!!

When he and his team where being chased by those 20 or so bounty hunter guys, he volunteered himself to be the decoy so the others could get away. So why not put one of his seals on Danzo or Hiruzen and FTG to their location once they had got a little distance, and keep fucking living.

Man the plot holes in the manga are deepening.
Dude A & B already proved that FTG can be beaten when B caught Minato in a stalemate situation. People need to stop acting like FTG is the be all end all of techniques.
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And how the heck did Hashirama die.
He's holding his own against Edo Madara(Madara with the Rinnegan)
If I had to guess, given his past and personality, he either died of a broken heart for not being able to save Madara from the darkness, or he over-exerted himself in a fight.

Knowing Kishi though, he'll take a third option and make his death something stupid.


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Dude A & B already proved that FTG can be beaten when B caught Minato in a stalemate situation. People need to stop acting like FTG is the be all end all of techniques.
Well Kishi has been making it out to be the Jutsu to end all Jutsus, and last I checked, when Tobirama was alive, A and B weren't yet. At that point in time, it probably WAS the be all and end all of techniques, so the question would still stand.

If there were no such thing as chakra limits, which is likely what might have killed him.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:32 PM   #34
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Dude A & B already proved that FTG can be beaten when B caught Minato in a stalemate situation. People need to stop acting like FTG is the be all end all of techniques.
Actually, Bee is in a defensive stance. And technically, Minato could have FTG'ed to another point, nullifying any attack opportunity by Bee... therefore, once again, FTG seems to be the end all of escaping jutsus.
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Dude A & B already proved that FTG can be beaten when B caught Minato in a stalemate situation. People need to stop acting like FTG is the be all end all of techniques.
The difference is Minato was purposely there to fight A & B. Tobirama stated he merely wanted to be a decoy to attract the attention of the bounty hunters, so the rest of his team could get away safely. That's two completely different scenarios.

Besides, your missing the point. No matter how badly his fight went way back in the day, as long as he had FTG, and had a mark placed on somebody far away (like his escaping team), he always had an escape route. There was absolutely no reason he should have died that day. How his that not a plot hole!?
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:52 AM   #36
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It's not that serious.
Hi, I treat all of the idiots as such. Positive punishment and such. Are you new here?
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I thought it was common knowledge by now that the internet is serious business.

I mean hell, the whole time the forum was down I just sat at home all day and played Russian Roulette. Thankfully when I woke up in the ICU I had only suffered minor brain loss. I showed the doctor one of KY's posts. The poor fellow just cried.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:14 AM   #38
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Probably asked for the gun himself.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:35 AM   #39
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FYI the sharingan coming from the byakugan is not canon.
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So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
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Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
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Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
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how do you break it up please
my reply 2
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and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
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then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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That's what I heard in the dub back in part 1, but then, it was the dub, so I dunno. It was only an example anyway XD.
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It's only a rumor in the manga. A throwaway statement made by Kakashi to compare the 2 dojutsu before the Sharingan became the demi-god of eyes.
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Oh I see. Nevermind then. That was a bad example.
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Keep White Knighting your favorite character KY. Only you would defend such horrible writing, and essentially dismiss the premiss of strength through hard work, in favor of a character that is a cum dumpster full of broken techniques. [/QUOTE]

Way to contradict yourself while compaining abotu hard work to become stong then criticizing Minato of all people...

You are bitching about strength through hard work with Minato when he is the damn personification of stength through hard work with no KKG, inherited hidden Jutsu or anything... He is a super Lee and Gai who has become what he is today thanks to his own hard work and abilities...

You must be retarded to bitch about Minato not being what he is through hard work...

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What's your point? That naruto is just as horrible a character as his dad?! If so, then yeah. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
That naruto is the broken character who not only copied Jutsu, but has received power ups and assistance to become what he is now... Not through hard work...
Your complaining about Minato is so Hilarious while ignoring the fact that hashirama would be nothing without his KKG of wood and YANG nature chakra.... While Minato in the same circumstances>hashirama still!!!
He would be Nothing and so would any other kage that relies on their inherited powers... Tobirama being the Only kage that has clearly worked hard like minato not relying on his KKG...
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Dude A & B already proved that FTG can be beaten when B caught Minato in a stalemate situation. People need to stop acting like FTG is the be all end all of techniques.
LMFAMROFL... Killer B proved that if you use the Hiraishin/FTG, then stop right before landing your blitz attack... Then it is not the most effectie technique out there so far, allowing Killer B to get a draw against minato with such circumstances of holding back so much he stops his blitz attack right before landing it, then gives away his position and the element of surprise by telling everyone out loud "I cannot fail"...

By then allowing B to notice minato is behind him LOL... Not before proving if minato has followed through with his blitz FTG and not held back... B would be dead...

Your such an idiot sometimes... You belong at NF....
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Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
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Ah, I kind of missed KYF's Minatardism.

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Way to contradict yourself while compaining abotu hard work to become stong then criticizing Minato of all people...
May I suggest you look up what contradiction actually means? It doesn't mean "whatever I miss the nuance of logic". Obtaining techniques through hard work =/= being a copycat.

I'll be objective and say that Minato actually worked for one of his jutsu: the Rasengan. It as an adapation of another jutsu, but adaptations still require work. HOWEVER, all his other techniques are either copied or the combination of two techniques. Minato isn't exactly riveting of originality, mainly because Kishimoto watered down Minato in favor of Tobirama and a few other characters to a lesser extent.

And, again, being objective, Minato was never pointed out as some paradigm of hard work, that would be a fabrication from your part. He was only denoted as being fearsome due to his abilities, which I think anyone can agree.

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Your complaining about Minato is so Hilarious while ignoring the fact that hashirama would be nothing without his KKG of wood and YANG nature chakra.... While Minato in the same circumstances>hashirama still!!!
Wow, that was a whole lot of stupid. If we remove FTG and Rasengan from Minato, guess what, he's much more useless than Hashirama without his KKG and regenerative skills, considering Minato only has shadow clones and Dead Demon Consuming Seal and Hashirama has chakra sensing, Rashoumon and freaking Sage Mode which can be used without Mokuton (Gate of the Great God being an example).

Please, don't be so obviously biased by stripping out the bulk of a character's arsenal and not do the same to the other characters you're comparing.

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He would be Nothing and so would any other kage that relies on their inherited powers... Tobirama being the Only kage that has clearly worked hard like minato not relying on his KKG...
You are on the fallacious notion that KKG doesn't require work to be used. Sharingan stages, anyone? Or you're telling me that the Uchiha clan you oh-so love so much are also a bunch of lazy bastards and Minato>all of them? I love how you shoot your own foot just for cheap and plain stupid apologetics.
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