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Old 12-04-2013, 04:35 AM   #16
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Re: Naruto 657

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I thought those were sword handles, not chakra rods. When the hell did Madara do that?

Also, they vanished in one panel.
That entire moment was off paneled....Madara got by Sai and Naruto was with his basic speed. His speed was shown when he first entered the fray against the Alliance members. He went through them like a hot knife through butter. Madara knocked Sai and Naruto down and somehow reversed a tech that he could absorb sage chakra from someone who masters collecting it. Also it isn't a lot of sage chakra.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:46 AM   #17
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Re: Naruto 657

Good action, but nonetheless confusing as hell. Things are just happening...because.

Oh, and I have a question for most of the main characters in this damn manga:
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Old 12-04-2013, 08:25 AM   #18
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Read your own words. He wouldn't need to get anything back if he already had it.
Read my post again. People are saying he doesn't have it anymore, which implies he lost it for good. He still has it, but it's temporarily unavailable and needs to recharge.
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Old 12-04-2013, 08:49 AM   #19
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So it takes Sasuke stabbing Madara in the arm in order for Madara to even acknowledge Sasuke's existence? I find it odd that Sasuke doesn't have a single constructive thing to say to Madara. I also find it odd that Sasuke is apparently the only one capable of even fighting a blind man at this point. Did everyone suddenly come down with a case of plot induced stupidity or something? Shit even Kakashi and Minato came down with it. They're right next to Obito and simply allow Madara's will to not only monolog but completely take Obito's body as well. I can't be the only one noticing this right? I would like to rate this chapter higher since its Sasuke heavy however I just can't excuse bad writing and sub-par execution. 2 out of 5.
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Madara is blind and is using sage mode (somehow he filtered SM chakra from Hashi?) to boost his senses. How is Madara doing this?
I really just don't know. How can Madara's body even process the 1st's Sage Chakra so quickly? Was Madara ever a Sage? Did he train his body to cope with natural energy? He should be suffering some negative side effects regardless of what his body is made of.

How is Madara going to take Sasuke's eyes anyway? He can't see where they are, he's just sensing Sasuke's presence which should be enough to know where Sasuke is and what angle of approach he's attacking from, but his response time shouldn't be that good, at least in close quarters. Though I suppose the same could have been said about Kabuto fighting blind to shield himself from genjutsu.

All and all an off the wall type chapter.
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Read my post again. People are saying he doesn't have it anymore, which implies he lost it for good. He still has it, but it's temporarily unavailable and needs to recharge.
See the impression I got from Black Zetsu's lines, and one that would actually make sense, is that not being an Edo anymore means that Madara having given away his actual eyes, the only Rinnegans to just float around people, is now legitimately effecting him. As in, now that he's alive, he needs to get his physical eyes back, which is what BZ is supposed to be accomplishing.
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Re: Naruto 657

You know how crappy the writing is when the only sane character from the "good" side is the very one that was a raging psychopath the day before (in continuity).

How the fuck is Sasuke the only one who isn't glaring at the villains like a drooling moron when they barf exposition at their faces and, again, the only one who came the conclusion every reader (but KYF) came to, that someone has to fucking kill Madara?

I have to say, I've made very clear in the past that I wasn't that interested in Sasuke because of his retarded fanbase, but now he's pretty much the only (relevant) character that I don't want to punch in the face for their idiocy. Go Sasuke, save this trainwreck of a manga!
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:41 PM   #23
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Re: Naruto 657

A few questions question... where did Madara go after he did the fire jutsu and why wasnt sasuke burned by the attack like naruto was? It also seems like madara vanished off of sasukes sword and the harish starts saying that it looked like marada got his powers back
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Re: Naruto 657

Just a pondering question, in the timeline of the manga, hasn't the Itachi/Sasuke fight, Pain destroying Konoha, and this ninja war all taken place in the span of a month?
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:19 AM   #25
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Just a pondering question, in the timeline of the manga, hasn't the Itachi/Sasuke fight, Pain destroying Konoha, and this ninja war all taken place in the span of a month?
I don't think so.....From the Invasion of Konoah(Pain battle), Attack on the Kage Summit, Danzo arc, Skirmish between Team 7, Second Kage meeting with Tsunade present, Announcement of the Alliance and Start of the war, Itachi vs Kabuto and present. The war itself I believe is just over 3 days length. I think from the Pain to the start of the Alliance Party I believe it's been over a month..I could be wrong though.
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Re: Naruto 657

Does the fact that the edo's dont regenerate now mean we have just seen the end of hashi in this fight? i hope not, at least madara is being badass unlike obito
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@ emachina & apocalypz: Considering Kurenai's pregnancy belly and baby, from Jiraiya's death to this war is a span of time that varies from a single month to half an year.

The war itself hasn't reached the third day (considering it started at daylight in the first day), so expect a corny dawn when it ends.
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Why wouldn't Sasuke with his sword impaled through Madara's arm, not get pissed when the Relic 'read' him and use ANY Lightening Jutsu's, or even some version of Enton again, just doesn't seem like Sasuke personally. Just parts of him occasionally.

Additionally, something doesn't make sense, Rinne Tensei brings the person back to life, but if they're eyes are gone they don't return, but if for example the shinobi had lost a limb that comes back intact... odd. I understand uber, but a Blind shinobi, named anything, that isn't an Edo, with the power to...

Take Sasukes eyes,
Reclaim 6 to 7 Bijuu whom don't want it,
Fight the rest of the alliance in Kyuubi cloaks,
Fight 5 Lame assed Kages that just watch a lot,
Deal with Tobirama, Hiruzen, possibly Minato with 1 arm,

He'll take damage, and without Rinnegan till it regens he's gonna take damage and use a lifes supply of chakra. This shit'll prolly look great from animes perspective, with moar explaination.
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Does the fact that the edo's dont regenerate now mean we have just seen the end of hashi in this fight? i hope not, at least madara is being badass unlike obito
Edos can still regenerate. It's only when they get hit with that black shit a fully aware juubito was using that they don't regenerate. Hashirama is still in the fight, albeit a little worse for wear right now.
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Read my post again. People are saying he doesn't have it anymore, which implies he lost it for good. He still has it, but it's temporarily unavailable and needs to recharge.
Actually it seems he meant physically. Think about it, Obito has one of his eyes hence why BZ is trying to get the eye back and zetsu prob has the other one. Since he came back to life, there is no edo tensei to provide him with doujutsu(like how Itachi had his sharingan even though he was blind.) There were only one pair of Rinnegan known to exist, he can't possible recharge a second one out of nowhere so he's getting the two from where they were last placed.

EDIT: just saw AOT's post. <_<

EDIT2: so does that mean BZ was looking at the Sasuke and Madara isn't blind?

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