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Old 12-11-2013, 02:54 PM   #31
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Re: Naruto 658

Well first of all, madara able to use susano when he hasn't got his eyeballs suck, he got hammard by the tails beasts and just stand there like it was nothing lol, then transplants his eye in seconds lol.
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Re: Naruto 658

There is no defending Madara surviving that onslaught.

The chapter itself proves it as complete nonsense. A pebble pelting from Gaara turns him into swiss cheese, yet a 9 bijuu beatdown only cuts his arm off ?

Why was the arm even cut off ? There was no small surface focus onto it he took a pounding from tails that dwarfed his ass. There should be nothing but a stain after that attack.

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Old 12-11-2013, 04:05 PM   #33
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Re: Naruto 658

I see alot of you have trouble seeing a way for madara to use dojutsu but with a bit of creativity it is easy to find a logical explanation take for instance the possibility of his clones having access to the sharingan what that means he might have summoned a clone to use susanoo for the escape. I know it's a stretch but it is plausible given the fact we know very little about madara's current abilities.

As for the other feats they can be explained with various jutsu. It's logical to assume that madara can use many jutsu that does not require the SG or RG such as a regeneration jutsu or some sort of armoring jutsu. I think its best to wait a bit before jumping to conclusions about madara because we don't really know what madara has in his tool kit outside his dojutsu.
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:15 PM   #34
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"Well, if we make shit up and argue from ignorance just to end it with a thought-terminating cliché, we'll come to a logical conclusion!"

Prez, why you even bother with this crap? It's an asspull, deal with it.
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Sorry but this chapter was bad lol.
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:19 PM   #36
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Re: Naruto 658

Does anyone remember reading a Kish interview from jump festa a few years ago where he said that he thinks of new ideas for the manga whilst relaxing in the bath? Seems like he's been relying too much on the bath salts for inspiration recently. All logic has been aborted, there are too many "how did that happen?" moments in the manga that I fear will never be explained. On the flip side, Madara could always settle for a career as an optician should he lose the will to battle or even lose it outright.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed with how big of a farce this manga has become, since it had so much potential prior to the invasion of Pain arc.

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Whats the purpose of Uchiha's going through all they have to just to achieve MS, let alone EMS, which by asspull becomes Rinnegan, so that later when your blind you can just pull it out at will... even without eyes. Susanno is formed from a Doujutsu, with freaking eyes, its not possible to just 'pass over' this bullshit. Its wrong by every single mechanic of jutsu created by Kishi himself, period. His shit's broken, and can never be put back together.
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We are talking about a being of madara+Sage hashirama... how can you not understand? The strength of both plus the external healing abilities of hashirama allow madara to take such attacks all day,
Sorry had to quote this since I think it was KYF who said a kunai would be enough to take down Hashirama. LMAO and all that jazz Madara just got shot up with a Tommy Gun and brushed it off as if he was being tickled by drunk college chicks.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:16 PM   #39
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Re: Naruto 658

Durrrrrrrrrrrr maybe cuz Madara is such a kickass motherfucker he only needs a regular eye ballz to summon susano so he used Hashirama's eyes huurrrrrrrrrfffff


I can't help but feel the general mode of disappointment around here and who could be blamed? we all invested a good portion of our lives in this manga enduring a lot of crap hoping to be up for something good in the future chapters, Instead we got this clusterfuck writing which slowly killed it for the entire fanbase all the way up until the manga came to conclusion. Seriously Kishi get it over with already..we need to move on with our lives.

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Durrrrrrrrrrrr maybe cuz Madara is such a kickass motherfucker he only needs a regular eye ballz to summon susano so he used Hashirama's eyes huurrrrrrrrrfffff


I can't help but feel the general mode of disappointment around here and who could be blamed? we all invested a good portion of our lives in this manga enduring a lot of crap hoping to be up for something good in the future chapters, Instead we got this clusterfuck writing which slowly killed it for the entire fanbase all the way up until the manga came to conclusion. Seriously Kishi get it over with already..we need to move on with our lives.
such a kickass motherfucker he only needs a regular eye ballz??? Really? Um maybe you didn't fully read, but Him had NO eyeballs, notice Zetsu gave him something... an eyeball, AFTER he performed everything he did. Additionally absorbing Mokuton/Sage Energy, kept Him alive, that's Captain Obvious, but it doesn't implant missing eyeballs. That's not even intelligent. You're a Sheep, that Kishi sold a bill of goods to, and the bad part is that you're proud of it. Manga is art, Art is critiqued regularly, everyday, by everyone. Read the broken story happily all you want, gots no beef with that. Don't attempt to belittle those that question obvious flaws in the same breathe, eat it up like a happy fool, but don't attempt to chastise when you're wrong.
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Re: Naruto 658

Wow, I really don't know wtf are you babbling about. but You'd be a complete retard if you think that am defending the manga on the grounds of being a good one and/or making fun of the people who are discussing it.
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Re: Naruto 658

I can finally put into words why this pisses me off. Everyone is probably gonna be like: "Duh", but still, gotta say it. It's not that Madara being unbelievably strong offends me, it's just that he's so strong, when he's beaten. It won't be believable.

Zabuza was incredibly strong, and he was a legitimate threat to three genins fresh out of the academy. But, through trickery, stealth, and dumb luck, he was beaten in a believable way. Madara just got gang banged by 9 super powered Godzillas, who are feared because they are suppose to rain down unstoppable death and destruction upon the world, and he brushed it off like no biggie. They teach you how to avoid this in writing 101.
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I can finally put into words why this pisses me off. Everyone is probably gonna be like: "Duh", but still, gotta say it. It's not that Madara being unbelievably strong offends me, it's just that he's so strong, when he's beaten. It won't be believable.

Zabuza was incredibly strong, and he was a legitimate threat to three genins fresh out of the academy. But, through trickery, stealth, and dumb luck, he was beaten in a believable way. Madara just got gang banged by 9 super powered Godzillas, who are feared because they are suppose to rain down unstoppable death and destruction upon the world, and he brushed it off like no biggie. They teach you how to avoid this in writing 101.
This is what happens when you let a story about super-powered beings go on for too long. Same problem happened with Dragon Ball Z.



The enemies with every chapter just get stronger and stronger until all strategic approach to fighting them goes out the window. It basically becomes a battle of who can dish out the strongest blows.

All the elements that are associated with "ninjas" have been eliminated.
Stealth, Cunning, strategy don't exist anymore like they did earlier in this manga.

In my opinion, Kishi should of figured out how to end this manga after the defeat of Nagato/Pain and then have a final battle between naruto and sasuke.

Sasuke saw his fucking family and his entire clan die for the sake of the village. He should of hated Konoha down to his bones. That type of shit should of made him the final villain in this story; Sasuke has much more reason to hate Konoha and the ninja system then Madara. How kishi managed to make him transition into some type of good-guy hero type was lame as fuck.

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Sometimes I forget this shit shounen...
Waste of my already minimal expectations.

I expected shit but got shit squared, how the fuck do you do that Shitimoto?

Kishi's logic
ET Hashirama>ET Rinnegan Madara
Alive Madara minus Rinnegan>ET Hashirama
Shinobi Alliance, 1 arm Minato, 2nd Hokage, EMS Sasuke, Sage-Fox Naruto>Sage of Six Paths Obito
Shinobi Alliance, Tailed Beasts, Kazekage, ET Hashirama, Sasuke, Naruto vs Alive Madara minus Rinnegan = 1 Lost Arm for Madara

I failed College Algebra, but shit...

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I expect Madara to become the Erza of Naruto(minus the tits). Once he gets his lolpowerup he'll be pulling powers out of his ass that will shit all over the rules Kishi set for the Nardoverse.
Yeah... but wouldn't it be better if he had tits?

What?

Ah, go to hell, you were all thinking it. Perverts.
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