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Thats not true some kids who play those games gets messed up thoughts

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I heard that one kid was obsessed with Halo and he took 2 pistols and a shotgun from his dad and went to a park and started killing 2 yeard olds and 5 year olds and the ones who survived said that he was screaming "Double Kill,Triple Kill,Running-Riot,And Killing Spree"

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i dont think young kids [5-15] should be encouraged to play violent video games. at that age they're still empressionable so they might think that its the right thing to do or that it's what all kids their age is doing.

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Where are the parents when they play these games? And do older siblings care what's happing to the little ones when they barge in the room and watch you play your violent games?

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i don't play 'violent' games such as Halo 2 and duke Nukem etc oh and F.E.A.R and my sister doesn't give a hoot so.. the closest i've ever come to a 'violent' game is "the bouncer" and all that is is a dulled down and animated ver of mortal combat but with scenes

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Well, I'm 14, but I play Halo, Halo 2, Call of Duty, etc. and I've never thought to bring a gun to school and shoot the anything that moves. All my friends are the same age as me, and we've never thought of that. I mean, we're all warped individuals, but we aren't about to go, "Ok guys, here's the plan: We take this here Brute Shot, go to the Library, and PWN anyone who gets in our way!" It's not that 1-15 year old kids are impressionable, but some have different maturity levels than others. I know a few kids my age who are quite mature, and I know 18 year olds who still laugh at fart and burp jokes. It's all a matter of maturity, not impressionability.

But letting a 5 year old play Halo is just plain stupid. <.<

Rhi

well you get parents that do it coz if the child asks and beggs and crys enough they give in.

i didn't meen that all young teenages shouldn't play them but certainly i wouldn't allow any of my relations to play them but as u said it all depends on a childs maturity level

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Dude, don't use extremes. Simulations CAN affect your perception on reality. In fact, thats a good way to desentasize (sp?) soldiers. It does not make you shoot everybody that does not go your way, but it might lessen the emotional impact of someone killing someone by a gun. Is there any study to prove this? No. But this is definitely more realistic than your extreme scenario.

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Which has nothing to do with violent games and everything to do with the individual playing them. It's not like me playing Halo is going to make me personally think that killing someone is any less wrong, or change my perception about shooting someone in the slightest. If you can't tell the difference between reality and a simulation then there's something wrong there.

It is like LN said, in a way. While it has no effect on me, it might have some effect on some already mentally unstable moron. But those morons aren't going out and killing people because they saw it in a game, they're doing it because they're fricken mentally unstable.

As for young children, that's totally on their parents.

All and all, you can't blame games for anything someone does. I promise there's always either a lack of parental supervision or some severe mental problems that are really to blame.

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Thats not true some kids who play those games gets messed up thoughts
and do crazy things

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Like I said, if you get "messed up thoughts and do crazy things" from playing a freaking videogame then you probably already had some pre-existing mental problems. Mentally stable people can differenciate between fantasy and reality. There's millions upon millions of people who play games and don't get "messed up thoughts" or anything. Wouldn't it be much, much more reasonable to assume that kids that do crazy things from playing games were crazy in the first place?

Unless of course you're referring to little children, which in that case their damn parents should be teaching them right from wrong, monitering what they do and what games they play, ect.

Either way, you can't logically blame videogames because there's always going to be a real reason these dumbasses do stupid things. Videogames, movies, music, ect. are only blamed because either a)people are just plain idiots (Jack Thompson, Hillary Clinton, ect.) or b) irresponsible parents need a scapegoat.

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So you are saying that playing video games has nothing to do with real life? Unfortunately, many kids do not make that distinction. They still get frustrated and become actively involved in the game, have you seen them play these games yet? And again, Drivers Ed and Soldiers use these simulations to train people. You cannot deny it. Simulation is one of the best teaching tool we have, but, as you pointed out, it all depends on how seriously you take them. I do not argue that, I am arguing that when these simulation and the intention is present, it will change your perception. Additionally, it is not as far out as you may believe.

Maybe it is dumb to be actively involved in video games. But the fact is that kids are doing it. However, there is no point on arguing for it or against it as we have no conclusive study.

Besides, try understanding the parent's way of thinking. Its kinda scary to know that pornography and shooting stuff are out there are readily available. It is probably an over-reaction (seeing these hyper-extended comment, its probably the case), but it is not a dumb thing to fight for.

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I get frustrated and actively involved in games too. There's nothing wrong with that. Games test your mental abilities and reflexes, and have a competitive nature to them. It's only natural to get frustrated when you're getting owned, or get into something you enjoy doing.

But I don't go out and rough kids up with a katana after playing Soul Calibur or Guilty Gear, and I don't go shooting people up after playing Halo or Counter-Strike. I know the difference between a simulation and reality, and I'm not a God damn idiot. People who get violent after playing a game are messed up, you can't blame games on that.


There will never be a conclusive study showing that videogames cause mentally stable people to become violent. Probably because common sense alone should tell anyone that they don't. Then you look at the millions of people who play GTA, CS,SC, ect and realize that it's pretty much impossible (and extremely idiotic) to intelligently suggest that games cause people to become violent.


It is dumb, though. How about instead of going on some ridiculous moral crusade against violent games, they just teach their damn kids the difference between right and wrong/reality and fantasy, proper moral values, ect. Also moniter and take interest in what their kids are doing/playing. You know, be freaking responsible in a reasonable, intelligent way.

Just because some people suck at being parents doesn't mean that everyone should be subjected to their idiotic standards.

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I dont think its the kid thats messed up. then again im a kid so i have no place but who cares if they ban m rated games like GTA i will cry to my mommy

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Dude, didn't I say that I specifically was not pointing out this action? This is an over-pronunciation of certain arguments, an attempt to create a straw man if you will. I am saying that when people are very involved in the game, it will change their perspective. Now, this does not necessarily mean that the person will go out and kill everybody out there, the changes are more subtle. It just becomes more acceptable, however slight.

This is all hypothetical of course, but so is yours. You are blinding in your argument. The point is that there ARE kids like this is the problem. If there were no kids attempting suicide or playing around with guns, then guns would be no problem in our society. If kids did not fall into peer pressure to drugs, drugs would not be a major problem. Admittedly, these are known evils and video game has no clear definition on this matter, but I think I can reject your proposition here because of the lack of proof.

I never stated that they would be more violent per say. I said they would be more immune to its affects. There is a difference. And the study can be done within reasonable bounds. There is no need to observe everybody that ever plays CS/GTA/SC etc. because not only is this impossible, it also contains too many lurking variables to provide a good cause-effect relationship. The studies are being attempted, and until then I will stay the middle ground on this route.

Dude, if parents could monitor everything a kid does, we would not have the problem that kids get into. I would hypothesize that you could prevent perhaps 90% of the crime by good parenting. But these crimes exists. I do not know if you are a parent , I think you are not, but its very difficult to watch children. And really, could you watch someone for hours who does nothing but care about the events on his computer screen after a tiring day of work?

Yeah, parents would like to be actively involved (unless socially unaccepted) but seeing as how both have to work nowadays to live healthily, that is difficult. So if they can get the big government to take care of the problems that they have a hard time dealing with, then yeah they will go after them. Video game is a new thing, new things are greatly feared.

Just so you know, I do not support the argument that video game causes violence. However, I do not argue against it either because there is no study that will move it either way. But I do think that the most likely scenario will be like the movies; the populace will accept them and move on.

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