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Old 11-05-2007, 06:43 AM   #391
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I think that its needed, cause if kishi is supposed to end the show soon or thats the rumor. Itachi and sasuke are near the battle that i think finally ends that score, pain has sent the others for the last 2 demons if i remember right, or hes getting naruto after the jiraiya fight. So then kishi needs naruto to grow big time cause just raw power from the kyuubi i dont think will work. Unless kishi wants another time skip and have naruto disappear again for training. I think this warehouse, which we know he will go to soon, is the key=no time loss. I would love to see naruto training this time
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:07 AM   #392
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Ha, just imagine what Naruto could accomplish with all of that training besides the jutsu. Multiple shadow clones with multiple toad summonings!
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:42 PM   #393
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Well another week without the manga, holy crap I am getting antsy now. I need to read what is happening....
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:30 AM   #394
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Ha, just imagine what Naruto could accomplish with all of that training besides the jutsu. Multiple shadow clones with multiple toad summonings!
Yeah i think that when he can master his chakra and use it correctly then he could keep up with pain summons.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:02 AM   #395
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Sorry for the long absence. Am I still welcome here?

I think that they might just be transitioning from one arch to the other because their still are tons of small to large threads unanswered.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:16 AM   #396
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There are soo many things unanswered atm, I think leaving Jiraya alone for a episode or two would be great, let us know what else it going on. SOMETHING please Kishi give us something!!!!!!
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:27 AM   #397
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:49 PM   #398
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^Read the first page, you'll understand how it works...

Well how about we talk about Pain vs. Jiraiya? Here are my thoughts.

if Pain loses his bodies, he'll just revive them like earlier, so Naruto would be up against the same odds as Jiraiya whenever he gets there. What I'm worried about is the timing which was talked about here. Naruto still needs to obtain the key from that guardian toad, which is the key to the Kyuubi's chakra so he could master "that jutsu". I don't know if he'll automatically get it under control in such a short time, he may need to go off for some training on the side, but hay its Naruto, he surprised us many a time by completing techniques or getting them at least partially ready before uncertain doom.

What I want to think about most is probably what everyone wants to think about most, and that is, how much damage will Jiraiya inflict on Pain before its all over? Simply taking out bodies won't mean a thing if they keep on resurfacing after defeat. Pain uses some sort of sense share technique that allows him to use all of his bodies with perfect timing and precise accuracy, it may seem like he is all of the bodies at once but that's not possible, at least in my opinion. The Rinnegan which means Transmigration means he can possibly instantaneously move between bodies using some sort of mind transfer, this means the other bodies are observing and taking in everything that's being learned to see better, fight better, and co-op better. But there is only one Pain or Nagato.

But since Pain could Transport into either body in a blink of an eye, this makes him very hard to kill or even hit for that matter, and on top of that, Jiraiya has to fight off other bodies who basically see whatever the original body can, which makes it even more difficult for Jiraiya is the fact that Pain could switch into a body that offers a specific type of ability, which means Pain could decide if he wants to switch to summons, ninjutsu, absorption, etc, and at the same time, Jiraiya has to fight off the other bodies who also uses unqiue abilities. The only way for Jiraiya to even have a chance is to separate and defeat all of them at once, which prevents Pain from escaping and bodies to be revived. It has to be quick and instant death for each and every body. Again the shadow clone jutsu will be the key in my opinion.

Jiraiya has to always be on top of his game, he can't be overwhelmed if he wants to get the lead at least for a little. I think this fight might actually be shorter that what we expected. I'd say the fight could go on for a few more chapters at the least. Jiraiya needs to do something and quick we see he already lost his left arm, like a few have said in the predictions, its a possibility that he may be able to get another one through his blood contract with the toads but the fact that he lost his arm so quickly means that Pain won't hesistate to turn him into ramen noodles. This may sound stupid, but I give it three chapters with the possibility of if going over two or so chapters, bringing it to five chapters at the most. Anyway each shadow clone must isolate each body and use different techniques to defeat the bodies.

Any ideas of how Jiriaya may try to separate these guys? One jutsu came to mind, and that was the Toad Mouth Binding, but in my opinion, I think there could be more, just something I wanted to get off my chest.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:26 PM   #399
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Good point and I think that you are right that shadow clone is the only way to go. However I think that Pain calls him self god because he is actually not in any of the bodies but controlling them with his eyes from above. I think it is clear that they are some sort of animated corpse, but at this point in the fight I am not sure what he has got left in him.

Jiriaya has some of the highest chakara in the show but I am not sure at this point he can go 6 on 6. I also think Pain can nullify that with summons. Plus we can assume that he has no idea the powers of at least 2 of the bodies. That is if the final body is indeed the body of his other student.

I think you are right that this will go on for another few chapters I think the next one will be him testing to learn the one power of the other bodies.

I would not put it past him however to do the sacrifice jutsu in the end with 6 clones to try and take him out.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:45 PM   #400
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However I think that Pain calls him self god because he is actually not in any of the bodies but controlling them with his eyes from above. I think it is clear that they are some sort of animated corpse, but at this point in the fight I am not sure what he has got left in him.
I agree, I made a prediction about how he has so many bodies. In the 380 predictions you can find it on the second page, quite the read though. Normally, Nagato had darker hair, but neither of the bodies looked how he use to, which brings me to the conclusion that his real body is the God that you mentioned.

Jiraiya said as a child Nagato possessed six different nature manipulations and used them equally well. Normally is not possible for any shinobi to be that skilled, but through the Rinnegan it was possible. I believe with his excellent nature manipulations he manged to create human dolls from the earth, a true act of a god. Of course these beings were not human, but they had a body and were controlled by Nagato.

Using the gifts of the Rinnegan, he was able to split his abilities and techniques across these created bodies and each body had a unique technique that was originally part of Nagato. Using the Rinnegan, Nagato would use a share sense technique and mentally become either of the bodies until needing to switch out accordingly. In the meantime, his real body would be in a safe location and if his bodies are not holding up to the challenge, he could absorb their powers becoming his all powerful self and using the powerful techniques that was slit into six...

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Jiriaya has some of the highest chakara in the show but I am not sure at this point he can go 6 on 6. I also think Pain can nullify that with summons. Plus we can assume that he has no idea the powers of at least 2 of the bodies. That is if the final body is indeed the body of his other student.
Yeah, Jiraiya has to act fast, although he could use shadow clones to gain information on the other bodies before charing in. While Jiraiya is in Hermit Mode, he appears to have much more chakra than usual, so he should be able to hold of the shadow clone jutsu a bit longer.

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That would be be really sweet if he could pull of a jutsu with instant death. Maybe it could be some mystery toad kinjutsu. But that would be messed up if he killed himself with all of the bodies just for the real Nagato to appear from the shadows.lol
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Some more good points however I think those bodies were not made by him out of earth because that would be too puppet like I think he is more into bring things back from the dead.

Also if you combine your point about his control of the 6 jutsus with the facts we know about his power from before. The fact that he can transfer peoples powers from one body to another. He showed this with Itachi, but interestingly it looks like his get full use of his eye powers while Itachi did not.
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Hmm, a while back I also made a prediction about those bodies being the deceased ancestors of the Rinnegan, although I change up my ideas fairly quickly, good idea by the way. If you are saying he used bodies of actual living people to bring back his ancestors, that's how he could have activated the Rinnegan through the corpses. That means he could have used a kinjutsu similar to that of Orochimaru's to bring back the bodies of the deceased. In my latest prediction, I ruled out the possibility that his bodies were actually people at one time, so I made a jump and said he could have slaughtered his beings then used that kinjutsu to bring them back. Since they were not regular humans, he could summon them instantaneously and with out sacrifices. But I'll take both ideas into consideration.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:09 AM   #403
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Well it looks like the J-man is down for the count... thoughts?
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Yeah I think he dies here and so does the other frog. I think he takes pein final secret to the grave.
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Its a good chance that he does die. I mean first his left arm gets blown off, than he gets pierced through his right forearm through his shoulder, which causes him to loose more blood, than when things could not get any worse, his throat gets squashed... He has a lot of injuries, I don't know what else he has to give...
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