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Old 01-11-2007, 09:24 PM   #16
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

hinata wont be better than sakura
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:45 PM   #17
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

Also I do not think Hinata has the drive to be a Medical Ninja. She seam more driven to show her fighting skills as an equal where Sakura was driven to be useful not necessarily a good fighter.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:56 PM   #18
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

ya i agree with chojimullet
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:26 PM   #19
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

Lol? Haven't you guys seen the rasengan? That's precise chakra control if you think about, I mean like almost no one can do it. You also have to learn to control you chakra in a series of phases just to create a ball, then to compress your chakra..blah blah. I think thats enough chakra control to be a monster lol.
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

Yes but it is not in the same realm as the exact control needed to do medical jutsu for instance.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:14 AM   #21
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

Hinata definetly has the drive to be a medic nin because it is one of the most difficult disciplines in ninjutsu and it would help her team immensly. Remember that Tsunade wanted a medic nin on each team and for team Kurenai there is no one better suited to that role.

The Rasengan is a jutsu that requires a lot of concentration due to the form manipulation being at its maximum. Of course one must have good chakra control but it is not at the same level as the likes of Tsunade. Chakra control means using the exact amount of chakra required to perform a jutsu, no more and no less. That is good chakra control. Naruto has a lot of chakra therefore when he uses chakra he is not using it at its optimum. he has so much to spare that he can overuse chakra and still be effective.
If he used the right amount everytime it would mean that he would defeat any enemy.
This will come into play if Naruto fights against skilled opponents one on one. The thing is though for good chakra control Naruto has to be intelligent enough to know how much chakra a jutsu uses.
The author in a plot device to teach the reader\viewer about certain aspects of the story has intentionally made the character of Naruto stupid. He has even gone so far as to have Yamato call him that.
The thing is though it is they are confusing ignorance and stupidity. IN the first part elemental chakra etc did not exist. All it was suiton, katon, doton etc. there was nothing more to it. So now they have added elements and it seems that only now they are important.
Its one thing to make a character naive but to have him ignorant and then insulted by those who keep him ignorant is not cool.

In part II things have not moved as much as they appear to have moved. There is no NaruHina.There is no improvement at all. I mean look at the training with Jiraiya. Other than a secret Jutsu and the Oodama Rasengan there is nothing that has been shown. The new formula seems to be tackle Akatsuki, Fight for a few chapters then defeat one or both of them.

He should shift his focus back to character development.

That went a bit of topic but hey what can you do.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:23 AM   #22
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

i thought that kakashi said that form manipuatlion takes extreme chakra control and that the rasengan was form manipulation taken to the maximum...anywho naruto is getting better with chakra control...or atleast the timing of his jutsus as witnessed during the bell test when he appeared behind kakashi...

if hinata becomes a medical nin...she'll fall out of ths story completely...in part 1 her story was trying to prove she was worthy of the hyuuga title. if she becomes a medical nin, she'll fail at that utterly plus medical nins don't get 'rockin' battles. i want to see what hintata has learned over 2.5 years...i mean the hyuuga house is fixed up a bit now with their internal affairs, so maybe neji has taught her a bit.

also naruto doesn't need chakra control like tsunade or sakura to be amazingly strong...whenever he used kyuubi chakra, his blows got heavier and naruto was a lot faster...if naruto can somehow find a way to make his own chakra flow like kyuubi's then he can amplify his attacks and speed much like the kyuubi.

also chakra control would not do anything for kage bushin becuz the kage bushin splits the user's chakra evenly...if naruto instead used the normal 'bushin no jutsu' then chakra control would be effective.
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

His chakra control is good because he can form the Rasengan but it is not at the same level as Hinata's, Neji's Tsunades etc.

Using the Kyuubi is destructive and it seems that if Naruto is to het stronger he must do so without the help of the Kyuubi. This conflicts with what Jiraiya said when he first appeared. He sort of said Naruto must rely on the other chakra, but it seems that has been conviniently forgotten. So using the Kyuubi's power to make himself stronger is not a good plan in the long run.

Someone please clarify. When Kakashi said Naruto could have a hundred times more chakra if the Kyuubi was surpressed, did he mean that naturally Naruto can have that much chakra or did he mean that when is not out of control he can access the Kyuubi's chakra to increase his overall chakra without damage.

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Hinata wanted to get stronger not to be deemed worthy as the Hyuga succesor but to prove to herself and to Naruto that she could change. At this point she is not in the story so any exposure would be cool.
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

i dont reely think hinata has any feelin of bein a medic nin
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:52 AM   #25
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

Hinata, I think will be a good guy version of Kabuto if she learn medic. She can use Byakugan + chakra scaple and become more dangerous close combat user than Neji and Lee combine.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:28 AM   #26
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

I agree that she would become like Kabuto. Since the Byakugan can damage internal organs it stands to reason that it can heal them as well and she could use it for fast and accurate diagnosis of patients.

In the Konoha Eleven filler, she went with Sakura to examine a dead body and without her they would have not been able to see that the dead person did not have any well developed Chakra coils. She did not flinch and she proved to be more useful than Sakura. Granted fillers are fillers but you get the point.

If Ino knows Medical ninjutsu then it is most likely that Hinata knows some as well. Canonically she made healing medicines showing not only an interest but an actuall understanding of medicine, enough to give to Naruto and maybe even her teammates on missions. Unfortunately in the fillers this was not covered but what was covered was her chakra control.

It is a possible possibility that Hinata is likely a medic nin. Until Kishimoto conviniently throws that aside i will firmly believe that she is one.

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Old 01-12-2007, 02:52 PM   #27
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

oh man so many f*cking asses in the streets and i´m not going to f*ck one

everybody agrees that hinata should learn or that he learned med jutsu
but naruto and precise chakra control isn´t possible though
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

I am not trying to throw the Idea that she is a medical ninja aside. What I am saying is that she already has many great assets so I do not think they will also make her even near equal in med skill to Sakura. I say again every character can't be perfect at everything. Hinata is an amazing character because she is different you do not need her to be Sakura part 2 with amazing top medjutsu just with crazy eyes.
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:42 AM   #29
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

HInata has not been developed enough in the manga so her assests have not been shown. As for Sakura she was useles to begin with and now with Tsunades teaching she is so strong.
If you look clearly Hinata wanted to improve herself not for Naruto but because of him whereas Sakura improved to help in the fight against Sasuke. She is a weak character and HInata is far better. It would be fitting to have a bit of a rivalry between and a Medic Nin one would be great.

The thing is the story is moving off in a way. At least the other teams had some time panel time but the rest have just been thrown aside for now.

Neji is the prodigy of the Hyuga and I don't think Hinata will ever surpass him in the Byakugan arts. So she will need her own path and going by what was shown in the manga I believe she will be a medic nin.

As for Naruto, he will have to gain better chakra control. When the Kyubi rgives him its chakra it overwhelms him and his personality is taken over. The Chakra has been shown to move in one way from the Kyubi. If he learned better control he would not only perform jutsu's well he could also control the flow of chakra from the Kyubi.
The Kyubi wants to escape and only Naruto can stop it so unless there is something else that happens like a reseal then Naruto will need to learn control his chakra well.
Oh and isn't it weird that now he does not want to use the Kyubi chakra but it still leaks out.
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Re: Precise Chakra Control for Naruto and Medical Ninjutsu for Hinata

Having the byakugan doesnt mean that you have are certain to becoame a great medic nin. If that were true then the Hyuga family would be full of Medics. ANd abuot Naruto ya i guess we all alraeady know that about his chakra.
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