Mooch

theres just a few things wrong with it.

1: I find the fact you made both your own little life thread AND the discussion thread both to be a tad, well, greedy. It's a bit egotistical.

2: Shika told me he didn't want to be in it and that he told you too, but you neglected the idea and basically said "tough luck" but, you're including a person in a fanfic or story that he doesn't want to be a part of. That's illegal. If someone doesn't give concent to use them in anything you create, its a violation of their rights and privacy, and is quite "sueable" in a court of law.

I never read your massive NL-Blog and life vent, but those 2 things bothered me. Since this is the discussion thread, I can say what I want about it, right? And I've done nothing wrong, but based on the fact that we don't like eachother, AND the fact I said something negative about your "hard work" you'll probably bitch at me for it yet again, and tell me to shut up. Go for it. My 2 cents are valid, and you're way too predictable Lily.

Lily229

*smiles really big* I've been waiting for YOU to say something Mooch.

Well as I've carefully explained to Shika, without him there is no story and he hasn't given me a valid reason as to WHY he doesn't want to be in it. Let him sue -.-; it's a fanfic, written by some crazy, egotistical over-stressed over worked under paid teenage girl so and so many miles from him. I'm tellin ya, alls they're going to do is laugh ^^.

As I've said, as long as you have a good reason to hate my story then I don't mind a little crisitm . I just wish you'd people see that yes, the main character is "me" but the story branches out to everyone, I'm working on putting everyone in and making them as fucking cool as can be >.<;. You call me egotisitcal but how is this any different from a autobiography? mines just anime-afied o.o; with horrible grammer mistakes xD

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Shino

Well, Mooch, she can't very well tell the story from any other point of view but her own, besides, she probabally has had the most interesting time here out of all of the members. Also, this story is complete fiction that has some elements of fact in it, besides, I don't think using someones online identity is "sueable"...now if she based his character off of his real life, then yes I could see that, but she isn't.

You don't like it, and thats fine, but no ones forcing you to read it.

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Mooch

anime is animation. a fanfic isnt anime. But, not wanting to be in something is a perfectly valid reason. People aren't forced into something they don't want to do because they don;t have a good reason. People in movies even as people who walk by on the street are paid, because they want to be. Why do you think some peoples faces are blurred on some tv shows? because they didn't give concent to use them in anything, and its their right. So, yes, it is a perfectly good reason.

@shino: exactly! nobody is forcing me too, but like lily said, she wanted critisism. But I can take a hint, 'specially from you. I'm done.

Shino

I don't mind you giving critisism; your right, she asked for it, and you gave her some. It's just the rest of the post didn't agree with me

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Lily229

I deserve it?1 that sounded mean T.T lol XD

I just find one thing funny

even though you guys say you hate my fic, I still catch you guys reading it o.o; If it wasn't written by me, would you like it? ^^ Are you going to read Pure Sin?

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Mooch

I never said I read it, in fact, I said I never read it. Plus, the title is way too over-dramatic for any sort of story, and actually makes the story sound worse than it probably is.

Lily229

It was the only thing I could think of at the time, besides I am currently working making it into a manga. Why? Because I just don't have enough on my plate -.-;;;;;

I like the name NL the Anime, because it's kind of anime-afied (and when i saw that i mean like there's a bunch of fiction crap added to it that just would never happen in real life >.<) and I couldn't call it Narutolounge because then i could get copyrighted for Naruto and Tom and junk @.@;. And NL sounded lame so I added to it. and there! You've learned the creation of the title.

If you've never read it why are replying to the discussion thread/giving me critism?

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Mooch

critisism can be given even if a piece has never been seen. I heard shika's story, obviously, and found the whole concept to be redundant. Thats it. It's not like im saying "so n' so should do this" thats a different kind of criticism.

Also, copywrited isn't a word. You could be viable for copyright infringement. That's the term you were looking for. But, based on the fact you don't have respect for other people's privacy, I didn't think you'd much care for the "illegal" ways. to one's own I guess. (:

dEcCrIx

this could get ugly T.T.... i dont mind getting an infraction for spamming.... i dont want this thread to be closed.... <.<

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Lily229

wow, you always listen to shika for everything huh? It's the 21st centruy sweetie, women can think for themselves now-a-days ya know o.O

So let me get this straight, you're going to take someone else's opinion over anything else just because he's your leg to hum....I mean friend then try to come up here and make a valid statement saying that my story sucks (which you're never read I might add) I'm an idiot, I'm a bitch and yada and don't say you didn't call me all of this because we all know you were thinking it -.-;. And that doesn't even begin to make any sense. Give me critism for something you've never even seen? Now I've said this since day one, I don't mind fucking critism but to hate my work because it was done by me is just fucking ignorant and bitchy. Read my work, then comment on it, but until you do, don't show your face in my threads again because your "critism" doesn't mean shit if you haven't even put any effort into it. I'm doing this for your own good mind you. You want to continue this *points to her IMs* bring it, but don't bring it into my thread where people actually have read my story and give me CONSTRUCTIVE critsim on it.

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Shino

It wont get closed, and if it does, it'll only be for a short time.

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Mooch

relax lily. I never said your story sucks, I said the title makes it sound worse than it probably is, if anything I was half complimenting it, saying it probably isn't as bad as it sounds. I never said anything bad about that.

As for the shika thing, yeah, he tells me a lot because hes a good friend of mine, and just because I agree with his views and try to stick up for him doesn't mean I'm edoing it JUST because it's him. Jesus that's a bit vague, if anyone could understand that it'd be you. Just stop freaking out so much over it, because I never said jack all about your story sucking, I just think it's unfair to shika because from what I can see, he hates you more than I do, and really REALLY doesn't wanna be a part of whatever the heck you're writing, so I'm standing up for his rights because you seriously DONT have a right to include him in anything you do if he doesn't want to, no matter how "good" the story is with him it's not really your choice in the matter. That's all meant by it, stop putting words in my mouth.

Lily229

Well you started out with "protecting" shika's rights, which I don't see what the big deal is i mean it's a fucking fanfic for christ sakes. but then you went into my story sucks mode because shika said it did, but *shrugs* whatever I calls em like I sees em.

I told you (and today I've said this about 7 times now >.<) if you truly hate my story because it honestly does suck, then ok I can accept that but I know why you and Shika hate it and then to come in here and make comments on something I'm trying to make fun for the members because it's something I, someone you both hate, wrote is just fucking wrong on so many levels. Personally, if this is how you both are going to act toward it, don't read it and grow up because I'll continue to write it and in about 5 chapters Shika's character is introduced so he's just going to have to suck it up. I didn't make Sakura's character into a bitch and I won't use my story to bad mouth him either. I'm just trying to do something fun for the members, trying to include everyone. I chose my story because it was really exciting here on NL, you can ask any of the oldies. Would you have liked it better if I had told it from your perpective or someone elses that I didn't have any common knowledge. I've asked about 95% of the people in NLA for permission to use them, I didn't ask you Shika or Corbenk because I knew you guys would just say no and I feel, for the wrong reasons.

Now come on and tell me the truth mooch, if you were the one writing this would you like it if i came in and said "this story's stupid! you can't use me! i've never read it but from someone else's perspective it sucks ass!" wouldn't you be a little ticked?

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Mooch

I NEVER SAID I HATED YOUR STORY. Go ahead and find a quote where I said "I HATE YOUR STORY LILY IT SUCKS!" you wont find one. I have no right to judge whether it sucks or not if I haven't read it. Dear god, where the heck do you keep seeing that?!

I think that was my 3rd time saying that.

And I never said shika said it sucks either, so stop with that crap. He just doesn't want to be in it, and if he's told YOU it sucks then take it up with him. I never quoted him on that one either. And if it were me I STILL would remove them and find a way around it, because of my beliefs. Hell, I'm sticking up for shika's rights so much why wouldn't I respect others? for cryin out loud you aren't making sense.

If you're ticked at an opinion, tough. Not everyone loves you. Grow up and just deal with it, and stop putting words in my mouth.

edit: Also, I DONT want to be in it, seriously. I don't see why I would be. And that's a good enough reason for anyone, because it's my right, not yours.