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Despite Shizune having more experience, I'm going with Hinata.

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shizune will win
one breath of her smoke bomb and hinata is done for good

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Pinoy_Shinobi

For the current Shizune and Hinata, I guess Shizune has the advantage. But if their both at their peek, I would go for Hinata.

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MikeyM1979

Shizune would beat Hinata. I'm sorry, but Hinata has shown nothing that would be a threat to someone like Shizune. >.> The only thing she's shown is that she can spot things, and that she can get God stomped by a non-trying Neji.

This should be more interesting, now that we have an idea of what the Pain paths are capable of.

Gaara, Kimimaro, Neji, and Gai vs Pain

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Dagoro

Pein would win.

animal realm alone would give these guys a hell of a time.

The 2nd vs kisame

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MikeyM1979

Sakura OHKO'd a summon, and SM Naruto's two URs were enough to put away two giant summons. I'm sure Gai and Gaara can handle the summonings.

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Dagoro

The centipede summon sure, but the rhino and the dogs i don't think so. It took SM Naruto and 3 elite toads to finish them off.

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MikeyM1979

My point is, if someone like Sakura could handle a summon easily like that, Gaara and Gai can do much more. I'm not saying Gai would stop the Rhino in it's tracks, but he's certainly capable of OHKO'ing it with gates. I'm also confident Gaara's huge sand, crushing attacks would do some real damage against the summons.

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Dagoro

Gaara lost Shukaku to AKA he won't as powerful as he used to be. Sure Gai could inflict a lot of dmg, possibly even KO a summon with his Gates opened but that would be a lot just to bring down a summon. Animal realm has a lot of them i still think they would be overwhelmed not to mention Animal realm can just summon the salamander and become invisible.

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MikeyM1979

Right, I should have specified more. We're using pre-extraction Gaara, since we know nothing about post extraction Gaara.

How would that be a lot? It wasn't a lot for Sakura, and Gai >>>>>>>>>> her.

And once he's invisible, then what? His summons will still be getting OHKO'd and crushed to bits. That'd basically be a waste of Pain's own chakra.

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Dagoro

If they have pre-extraction Gaara than their chances increase greatly.

Gai opening his Gates just to handle a summon would be a lot. He would be fried after his attack was done.

What do you mean Animal realm summon's would get KOed left and right ?? Both jiraya and Naruto brought thier best summons to the table to counter animal realm id like to see those guys produce summons of that caliber.

anyway since conditions for Gaara have changed I think its fair to add another Path. Animal realm and Deva would be more than enough.

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MikeyM1979

I agree.

I don't think he needs to open several gates. The dude is naturally strong, gates would be overkill for some summons. Besides, Gai didn't seem fried at all after using Morning Peacock, which used six gates.

Exactly what I said.

Jiraiya didn't bring his best summons against Pain. o_O Naruto did, even though I don't think he needed them.

You don't need summons to deal with summons. Sakura painfully proved that.

The conditions didn't change, I simply forgot to give more information. Deva, is that God Realm?

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Dagoro

In the Gaara rescue arc after Gai busted fake kisame with morning peacock they had to stop and rest. Opening the gates take a huge toll on the user Gai is no exception.

Gamaken is an elite toad, clumsy but very powerful. He is one of the best

Sakura KOed the centepede, That was a lesser summon. The twin cerberus and rhino are much more powerful, not to mention the other ones animal realm can bring to the party.

Gaara still having the shukaku is a big change regardless if you forgot to mentioned.

Yes Deva is God realm.

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MikeyM1979

Where exactly, in the manga, do you see Gai taking a rest due to that attack? I just read through towards the end of the fight, to where they get to the Akatsuki cave, and I saw no point in which Gai had to rest.

He had self esteem issues, and was only there to buy Jiraiya time. I hardly call him one of the best, and he's hardly shown it.

So you're saying Pain chose to use a weak summon?

They're shown to be much more powerful because they weren't OHKO'd right off the bat the way Sakura did. Naruto quickly disposed of those others also, after they showed what they can do.

IC, he won't use Shinra Tensei unless he's out to prove his justice, or to wreck a village, so he won't be using it against these guys.

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Scarecrow

gara, kimimaro, neji and gai could take four paths down. kimimaro, neji and gai fight close range and that is the only disadvantage for them. i dont think they could beat all six at once.
lets say the four paths they are fighting against are fat pein, summoning pein, robotic pein and the pein that does the reviving. gara, gai, neji and kimimaro are either equal to each of those peins or above them in ability.
gara would be in charge of defense by creating sand shields for himself and his team if needed. he could also attack with it. gara showed how much sand he can control and its impressive.
kimimaro in cs2 would not get hurt by summons, or by anything peins have coz his body is harder than metal.
gai with six gates opened would be too fast for them. in fact gai, when he has six gates opened, is faster than sage naruto.
neji is maybe the most vulnerable coz he doesnt have sand armor or bone armor and he is not as fast as gai. but neji has 360 degree field of vision and there is no surprising him. also neji would win in a taijutsu fight against pein.

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