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Old 09-15-2009, 08:52 AM   #6766
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I could be wrong but I am pretty sure Chidori > Rasengan, but FRS > Chidori. Why? Rasengan is an incomplete technique that represents complete and perfect shape manipulation but has NO element manipulation. While it has quite destructive capabilities (going through very thick trees with ease), it is weaker than the chidori that can cut lightning. Chidori has shape and element manipulation and is complete. Now if we're talking about FRS versus Chidori, sure FRS pwns it.
No rasengan>chidori this was proven in the manga
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/176/10/

Chidori is complete but that doesn't mean that its stronger... because its not the more destructive jutsu is rasengan.. The chidori is complete and is A RANKED. The rasengan is incomplete and is A RANKED.. what does that tell you...

Chidori needs to be on point to kill rasengan can just hit you and kill you... look at the link i posted imagine that on a human body... what damage it would do to the inside kabuto who can regenerate still collapsed because the damage inside was to much. If it were any other person they'd be dead kabuto is lucky he can regenerate.

Chidori needs to hit a vital point to kill you rasengan does not plain and simple.. not to mention sasuke used a full powered chidori on naruto and he canclled it out with a rasengan THAT WASN'T FULL POWERED.
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No rasengan>chidori this was proven in the manga
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/176/10/

Chidori is complete but that doesn't mean that its stronger... because its not the more destructive jutsu is rasengan.. The chidori is complete and is A RANKED. The rasengan is incomplete and is A RANKED.. what does that tell you...

Chidori needs to be on point to kill rasengan can just hit you and kill you... look at the link i posted imagine that on a human body... what damage it would do to the inside kabuto who can regenerate still collapsed because the damage inside was to much. If it were any other person they'd be dead kabuto is lucky he can regenerate.

Chidori needs to hit a vital point to kill you rasengan does not plain and simple.. not to mention sasuke used a full powered chidori on naruto and he canclled it out with a rasengan THAT WASN'T FULL POWERED.
And yet a fully-powered Rasengan blasts through an oak, and a chidori cuts lightning. Face it, chidori is typically a killing blow. Rasengan was really hyped but it's just a very generic special move. FRS however pwns everything.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:33 PM   #6768
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And yet a fully-powered Rasengan blasts through an oak, and a chidori cuts lightning. Face it, chidori is typically a killing blow. Rasengan was really hyped but it's just a very generic special move. FRS however pwns everything.
chidori was developed for assassination purposes yes but to kill u must be direct one inch off from a vital and ur opponent will fuck u.. A rasengan can hit anywhere and ur opponent is fucked u chose...

yes kakashi was the only man to use chidori to cut a lighting bolt.... and that fully powered chidori from sasuke paled before naruto's regular rasengan.. the manga even pointed out that sasuke used his full power on that chidori....

There's nothing to face manga facts prove rasengan is the more powerful technique... stated by jiraiya and proven by the panels.
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chidori was developed for assassination purposes yes but to kill u must be direct one inch off from a vital and ur opponent will fuck u.. A rasengan can hit anywhere and ur opponent is fucked u chose...

yes kakashi was the only man to use chidori to cut a lighting bolt.... and that fully powered chidori from sasuke paled before naruto's regular rasengan.. the manga even pointed out that sasuke used his full power on that chidori....

There's nothing to face manga facts prove rasengan is the more powerful technique... stated by jiraiya and proven by the panels.
Chidoris a peircing jutsu and rasengan is a wide range destruction jutsu. Each having theyre advantages and disdavantages, but rasengan couldnt beat chidori in the valley of the end so in no way is it more powerful a jutsu.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:00 PM   #6770
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Chidoris a peircing jutsu and rasengan is a wide range destruction jutsu. Each having theyre advantages and disdavantages, but rasengan couldnt beat chidori in the valley of the end so in no way is it more powerful a jutsu.
correction the manga clearly says sasuke used his full powered chidori and naruto's rasengan completely canceled it out i can link u if u'd like dude..

and it says no where that naruto used a full powered rasengan.. meaning kishi wanted us readers to know a full powered chidori equals a regular rasengan..

they're both kick ass jutsu dnt get me wrong one of the best in the series.. the rasengan would just do more damage to the body while chidori as u put it is a piercing jutsu focused on precise attack ..
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:35 PM   #6771
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

the only way chidori and rasengan stood toe to toe THE FIRST TIME in the valley of end is because sasuke drugged himself with the CM but that's not enough to convince some people. chidori could stand a little chance against rasengan only because minato died before it went any further. if he had done something more to it and taught it to jiraiya then taught it to naruto then no one would even argue chidori wouldn't stand a chance against rasengan
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

Chidori is a piercing jutsu, Rasengan has more of a blast radius.

Rasengan has more pure destructive force. Chidori has a small blast radius but slices and pierces like a knife.

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it's not that much of a hack. if it was a truly great hack then in SM naruto would be able to use atleast 3 of them
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

rasengan is stronger...thats not an argument thats a fact. strength means more power, which rasengan has.... that argument is over.

chidori cutting lightning doesnt prove its strength. a lightning bolt focuses its energy on a single point. so does chidori. so chidori cutting lightning shows its penetrating capabilites. also chidori is lightning based so it is able to negate the lightning bolts charge and kind of absorb it.

in the valley of the end, i dont know if rasengan and chidori hit head on, and then they just slipped past each other. having chidori go down and pierce naruto and rasengan go up to scratch the forehead protector. chidori didn't beat rasengan because rasengan was still in effect, otherwise it wouldnt be able to scratch sasukes forehead protector.

so take it as you will.... rasengan stronger... chidori more lethal
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the only way raikage didn't get pierced by the chidori is cuz of his raiton and it absorbed the chidori a bit. with the rasengan it'll just blow the raiton away and there's no escaping FRS if it hits you
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Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!]

I find it as funny that this argument is coming up again now....last time I saw it was....oh...200+ chapters ago?

It has already been wellll established that rasengan has greater destructive potential while chidori/raikiri are more suited for a jab/penetration attack. For example: while the rasengan can blow up your balls (and most of your lower body), the chidori can cleanly cut them off. That being said, each respective attack really does quite well complement it's respective caster.

The real point that I want to make is that every form of the rasengan has more destructive power than the any of the chidori variants. However, the beauty of the chidori is it's versatility.

Rasengan
--->Oodama
--->Rasenrengan
--->Sage Tech Rasengan
--->Fuuton Rasengan
--->FRS

Chidori
--->Raikiri Used by Kakashi for increased penetration ;-)
--->Chidori Nagashi
--->Chidori Needes (senbon)
--->Chidori Infused Katana
--->Chidori Sharp Spear

I just want to point out that each rasengan variant until FRS is really a bigger/more powerful version of the same attack. Until Naruto can throw it, he is essentially using the same thing every time. However, with the Chidori, Sasuke expands his versatility (his options) on the battle field, which really makes him more prepared for whatever situation may arise.
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If the rasengan was more powerful then chidori then it wouldve blown right through it at the valley of the end, but it didnt so enough already. A KN1rasengan couldnt stop a mere C2 chidori so proof enough that they're equal because both times they canceld eachother out.

Manga fact so drop it.
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yes i guess this
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...6/page006.html

must be equal to this
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...6/page010.html
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If the rasengan was more powerful then chidori then it wouldve blown right through it at the valley of the end, but it didnt so enough already. A KN1rasengan couldnt stop a mere C2 chidori so proof enough that they're equal because both times they canceld eachother out.

Manga fact so drop it.
it was a full powered chidori so a regular rasengan just cancelled..

sasuke said he used his full power chidori.. but naruto didn't say anything about making the rasengan EXTRA stronger..

the more more destructive is rasengan proven in the manga.. chidori isn't as destructive thats why it focuses on vital points the rasengan blows shit up like naruto did it that water tank while chidori just crushed it even sasuke knew who's was stronger after he saw the back..


New fight:

Orochimaru Full Health Vs Kakuzu 5 hearts and oro has edo tensei prepared.

Location: the forest where kakashi and co fought hidan and kakuzu.
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New fight:

Orochimaru Full Health Vs Kakuzu 5 hearts and oro has edo tensei prepared.

Location: the forest where kakashi and co fought hidan and kakuzu.
1) Yes - thank you for the support. I did not say the rasengan was specifically BETTER than the chidori, but rather more destructive

2) Nobody ever takes into consideration the third coffin that Oro originally summoned. Can we assume it was Minato? If that were the case, he could ditch the other two Kage's and still win. Whatever, with ED Oro takes this no contest.

Without ED....I'm still going to go with Oro, just because he is even harder to kill than Kakuzu (even taking his 5 hearts into consideration). Additionally, every mortal wound (to the heart) that Kakuzu takes, he becomes weaker (aka loss of an element), wheras Orochimaru doesn't really get weaker every time he has to use oral rebirth, he just takes a chakra hit.
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