Konnaha_yellow_flash

Sorry for the extra post, but this one deserves its own post lol.

I had not noticed something from before. I thought itachi at 100% found and pwned the real naruto without even trying howeverhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/366/14/

Thats right!!! Naruto was found and easily beaten by not itachi, but one of his karasu bushins lol which means naruto couldnt even beat a clone of itachi with the clone holding back only wanting to talk. I guess SM would actually allow naruto to last a couple seconds against the real itachi.


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Wow come the fuck ON KYF. We already know how Itachi operates when it comes to opponents dude, that one scene isn't shit.

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So now that we know that Itachi admitted to not being able to tell real from fake against kakashi...

and we know that in the manga he didn't find the real naruto he stumbled upon him, in the anime we see itachi stalking naruto which hints to him following the real 1 but doesn't actually show it.. THE MANGA HOWEVER shows no such a thing it just shows itachi popping up outta nowhere...

And I know the lame ass kyf prob keep rambling about how itachi can see itachi can see but the kid is fucking pathetic and a embarrassment to all ppl on this fucking planet when he can't even take simple literature that's written by 1 author saying "no eyes can detect real from fake "...

kyf w/e you're writing give it the fuck up you fucking fail at LIFE the manga states not the sharingan nor the byakugan can see a shadow clone neither can the rinnegan... Itachi already proved himself he cannot tell real from fake... so JUST FUCKING STOPPP

The Special One

? Doesn't matter if he used taijutsu or, not. Naruto caught up to Kakuzu and landed his blow before Kakuzu could react (which suggests that Naruto's body moves well). The shadow clone tactics were efficient which leans towards Naruto being able to move around with shadow clones as well as to effectively execute with his actual body. Kishi wanted to be silly and have Naruto's jutsu collaspe on him. That in my opinion, made Kakuzu's following tactics the next chapter after that kind of annoying. It would have been better if Naruto had ended it like that.

This proves that Naruto was actually getting somewhere. If Naruto was so slow, Pain wouldn't have needed the momentum from the push off of Gamabunta to arrive in front of Naruto. He would have ran and just caught up to Naruto. Naruto's base isn't slow, it's acceptable speed.

Example: Shadow Clone tossing a Naruto with a Rasengan to reach Pain and hit him. Pain used the same logic to arrive in front of Naruto. I can say Pain is slow as shit because he didn't move but, I know that, that's not the case at all is it?

Naruto fakes out his opponents too. That's the premise behind his shinobi tactics.

Water clones aren't nearly as powerful as shadow clones, and Zabuza's were only using 10% chakra usage. They couldn't get too far from the caster either or, they'll disperse. Naruto can make more to counter those if he needed...

You think Orochimaru actually intended on killing Itachi? He more or, less tried his ritual however, he got stopped before executing it. Orochimaru was so wrapped in obtaining the sharingan, that's all he was fixated on (summoning, oral rebirth, and all that just tossed out of the window). Jiraiya would take things seriously from the getgo and summon something big right off the bat (considering he's not after Itachi's body). Again, I'm not saying Jiraiya could win, I'm just saying it wouldn't be over in like 2 seconds. Jiraiya has several interesting tricks like swamp of the underworld, those hair jutsu, and co-op with Gamabunta. He's not weak at all.

Itachi is an expert with Genjutsu while Naruto was still relatively new at the genjutsu breaking thing. You can't expect Naruto to break out of a genjutsu of a person who can specialize in it on the first go. Also, who is to say Naruto's chakra control was as good as it is now? After his Rasen Shuriken training and the learning of Sage Mode, Naruto's chakra control could be a lot higher than it was from before.

Extending the sharingan's insight won't solve anything. Shadow Clone jutsu divides the chakra evenly among the bodies present, that's why the Byakugan couldn't decifer the real Naruto from the shadow clones. If each body has the exact same chakra, finding the real one would be no more than a shot in the dark.

Shadow Clones aren't that weak. It takes a hard blow to destroy them and if the shadow clones were laced by an extremely skilled shinobi (as in Sarutobi's case) they can remain in battle after taking hits. The crow going down its throat isn't a powerful blow to a shadow clone.

Who says? If it becomes Naruto's power, than why not? Natural energy isn't initially Naruto's power however, that can be channelled into a shadow clone and then dispersed in order, to push Naruto into Sage Mode. After all, natural energy is energy from the outside.

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Myth

i told you guys put his ass on the ignore list...

Vengeance

That's actually a really good idea. KY you've been added to my ignore list. Nice knowing you tron.

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i did that too i mean if everyone does it he'd be talking to thin air and we could have normal discussions finally.

Konnaha_yellow_flash

WHich scene?

I guess ur still reading my posts after all.

And ur theory that itachi coincidently knew where the real naruto was, coincidently knew where his two KBs were and Coincidently knew where narutos teamates were is rediculous!!!!!

Itachi could obviously tell the difference otherwise he wouldnt of forced his BIG BLACK KARASU DOWN NARUTOS THROAT because u cant pass on power to a bushins lol.

Say what u want because itachi found naruto out of hundreads not by coincidence, but with the purpose of giving him power to help sasuke if sasuke needed the help after hes dead so get over it. ITACHI SG COULD SOMEHOW TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KBS AND THE REAL NARUTO MAKING IT CANONZ!!!

[QUOTE=The Special One;1775722]?Did u even look at the link I posted? Kakuzu just STOOD THERE while naruto and his KBS attacked him. Kakuzu didnt even try to move lol so how does that prove naruto isnt slow as piss?

Lol, what?? Deva stuck in mid air because gama came to naruto rescue, but dvea chumped him then lept off of gamas back because he was in mid air, not on the ground. And since deva caught naruto in 1 panel after naruto was about 50yrds ahead, its canonz kakashis/devas speed>>base naruto.

Naruto is just slow and has always been so I dont know why of all things ur trying to show narutos not slow.

No realms tossed deva, he lept because he was in mid air yet still caught naruto easily in 1 panel from 50yrds.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/442/16/

See^^^ Devas so completly warnout he cant stand much less dodge like he did before with the henged bushins and FRS so ur comparison is way off. Naruto running at full speed and getting caught in 1 panel from 5yrds by deva>>>Naruto getting thrown by 2KBs at a stationary deva whos so warnout he cant stand much less dodge (in speed feats that is)


Naruto resorts to those tacttcis when he usual overwhelm with powerful head on attacks doesnt work.

I didnt exspect zabuza to use his suiton clones to fight, but merely as decoys and deversions from the real zabuza.


Oro cant use his ritual on anyone without the CS!!! Oro clearly tried to infect itachi with that power, but was raped in the process.

And if that attack wouldve landed even itachi wouldve been killed because add that (CS when first introduced, remember what happen to healthy sasuke) with itachis illness and u have a kick the bucket scenario lol.

ANd Im not saying Jman s weak at all, its just itachi is redicuously strong. His SG eyes could easily read, anticipate and counter any ninjutsu, taijutsu, genjutsu and by his statement with Oro, Kenjutsu as well. So how would Jman last very long with bushins blitzing him while using genjutsu as well?

CHakra control isnt the genjutsu special skill to my knowledge because Jman has great chakra control, but he as well couldnt do anything with genjutsu to save his life.

And naruto twice by bushins got beat by genjutsu. Im sure SM would allow naruto the ability to power out of some of the regular genjutsu, but SG genjutsu is top of the line so IDK.


Shot in the dark? Itachi bushin found naruto out of hundreads so obviously it can be done. Just dont forget itachis bushin couldve just simply used his SG to read narutos reactions (facila reactions, obvious anxiety knowing only the real one would be so anxious) something because itachi found him, knoew exactly where his KBS were without looking and even where narutos team mates were so itachi insight and clarity is awesome.

The genjutsu takes away chakra control which would leave the bushin unstable if it was a bushin then by giving the bushin the power which was so taxing it put naruto on the ground, a bushin wouldve died from such a thing.

NE combines with chakra to become Sage chakra, but another shinobis own chakra isnt5 going to mix with narutos chakra and will only be used when itachi programed the power to be used so it transfering like narutos own energy isnt possible.

I already thought of this before claiming itachi could find the real naruto because if that was possible then itachi couldve easily just found a bushin to talk and give power too.


@Vengence:

IDFC!!!! So u dont want me to tell ur drunk ass replacement jutsu isnt a T/S jutsu or w/e other crap u just want to continue to believe yet post as fact. By ignoring me ur just showing how much u want to be left alone to believe that crap because denial is such pure win I guess.

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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA

platinumrug

The scene where you said Naruto got his ass whooped by a Karasu bunshin or some shit. We all know how Itachi operates when it comes to fights, Itachi could've easily laid out Naruto with that, and we all know Itachi's taijutsu isn't something to scoff at so even IF Naruto got beat by a bunshin it makes sense since Itachi was still able to keep up with Sasuke, given that Sasuke copied Lee's taijutsu which was LEAGUES above Sasuke's at the time.

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Itachi didn't touch Naruto anyway. Naruto was reeling from Itachi's message. I thought the flashback to where Itachi and Naruto had their talk in the genjutsu made that apparent. That's why Naruto asked why Itachi hadn't fought him, or taken him seriously. Itachi responded with "I have other places that need more attention." Or, something along those lines.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/02/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/03/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/08/

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

Well, I was under the Impression that naruto fought the real itachi which I missed obviously. But I was just saying that because why pit naruto against itachi even with SM when naruto could never last more then a few seconds against his bushins. The point I was trying to make I guess.

Also, Im not sure if Lee knows shushin or not? I was under the Impression he was just really fast after removing his weights or w/e. IDK, I could be wrong.

I know the karasu bushin never touched naruto, but genjutsu dont defeat opponents with external force, but with internal. And since naruto was on the ground obviously internally rocked, sweating and panting yet not dispersed he was the real naruto. A KB cant take that kind of punishment. A slap to a KB can kill one of those things so itachis genjutsu wouldve murdered one with overkill lol.


Anyways, lets not beat a dead horse.

How about a match up Ive been meaning to debate again fro a while.

Raikage (starting in supermode) vs pain? In konaha crater and if raikage gets in trouble shi is allowed to assist him.

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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA

The Special One

.....Ok whatever.

-Those Chakra rods won't hurt Raikage (Chidori Charged Katana is blocked by Raiton Armor).

-Hungry Ghost and Human Realm are automatially forfeit.

-Raikage is at disadvantage because he can't summon.

-Pain's disadvantage is if he uses a regular shinra-tensei (time between would allow Raikage ample for violating it).

-Pain wins if he uses full scale Shinra Tensei (I don't think Raikage can cover that much distance.)

Chibaku Tensei would normally seal the deal (though Pain would have to be within proxy range of his original body.)

I say Pain wins with full-scaled Shinra Tensei (the one that leveled Konoha. It would have been a good match though, Raikage lacks summons for supplementary matters.)

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Wait a second. Did you just say genjutsu can kill KB's? Where did you get that idea from. Itachi's used genjutsu on kakashi's shadow clone and made it feel like it was on fire yet it didn't even flinch.

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Couple questions.

1. How is the giant ST going to beat the raikage (super super strong and powerful while also covered in raiton armour) when it couldnt even hurt tsunade, the white anbu guy, shikas dad, inos dad ect. How?? Even with raiton armour on no physical attack is going to hurt rai with or without super strength.

2. Rai is starting off in super mode which means he moves instantly!!! So fast he will be killing realms before they even know theyre dead lol. So fast if pain had 100,000 realms with 200,000 eyes watching rai, they still couldnt track his movements.

Realistic scenario:

Animal realm steps forward to take on rai in super mode. Before animal realm can finish saying summoning Rai blitzes in and back hands animal head off her shoulders sending her body flying with so much force it hits HG realm who cant react in time and is killed on Impact.

With the other realms having no Idea of how rai wasted two realms in an instant they take a defensive stance to try and track rais movemnets. However, Rai easily blitzes in behind all and kills the one furthest in the back which would be hell realm. Now, with 3 down all attack rai while deva uses bansho tenin to take rai off the ground so he cant move, but human and demons chakra rod attack combo fail because theyre rods cant do jack to rais armour.

Now devas powerless for 5 seconds which is ample time for rai to blitz human realm killing him, then demon realm who attempt to use his rocket boots to blitz rai from behind gets intercepted by rai and killed as well.

Now with deva all thats left. Deva STs rai and sends him flying, then jumps up in the air. Then as rai is getting up he looks up and takes a supreme Shinrei tensai point blank. (shit blows up, theres a huge dust cloud and shi is worried) Now devas back on the ground panting from using so much chakra, but when the dust settle rai is standing in the huge crater with his arms protecting his face and is unharmed because not only his super brute strength, but his raiton armour allowed his body to pierce the earth severely softening the blow.

Now with deva powerless for another 2 minutes rai easliy catches deva trying to escape and kills his ass.

Rai wins because pain didnt have a godly ultimate defense like sasanoo which it took to stop rais attacks from instantly wasting sasuke as well or a jutsu like amaterasu that could actually injure rai though his raiton armour. Or at least a fuuton jutsu that would hurt rias raiton armour.

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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA

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The Full Scaled one leveled an entire village and covered so much range. I think everyone covered themselves with Katsuyu and basically Tsunade gave up all of her chakra to protect everyone with the slug's bodies. I think if Naruto was hit with the full scaled Shinra Tensei, Pain would have won (though it might have killed Naruto).

The Fulls scaled Shinra Tensei was seen to be Pain's strongest offensive.

I think the other bodies would be wasted quickly (though the summons will probably block Raikage enough for God Realm to ascend into the air via the forces of its technique.)

Pain would probably end of destroying all of his bodies in the blast though. So, Pain would be exausted and out of power, without any bodies. It would be a doubled edge technique no doubt.

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