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Team gai would Obliterate zabuza and Haku. Like its been sad, the BG can see through anything so the mist wouldnt do anything, the suiton cloes that are crappy 10% clones would be easy to spot with the BG as well so Neji finds zabuza for gai and Gai hands him his ass.

Lee with his weights off could solo Haku in his ice prison if sasuke was able to use his SG to help him catch haku with his level of speed bacl then.

Ten ten can just sit there an be useless.

Team kurenai would win as well. Hinatas BG could help justas nejis did, then kiba with akamaru can sniff out the real posistion of zabuza then shino could use his bugs to drain zabuza. SInce haku showed no genjutsu talent then kurenais genjutsu should own his ass.

Team asuma? Asuma should be able to solo zabuza while shika, ino and choji fight haku in the ice mirrors.

I could see shika cayching haku with his shadow possesion, then chouji using his human bouldar attack to crush haku while hes Immobile.
Theres a chance zabuza could beat asuma, but that would take some time IMO. But once shika, chouji and INo finish with haku they could help asuma.

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They were both hyped. Haku was nothing without that ice mirror technique

yes I do. The other genin teams have shown better teamwork from the beginning, it not like they didn't have skills back then. Even though naruto and sasuke are uber strong now back then they were no better then the other genin.

Not insect globe, but he did know how to use chakra sucking bugs in the chunin exam, which wasn't long after this fight. He should have already been taught his bug jutsu as a kid. So he take his bugs and tells them to swarm all over his enemies. Same thing as insect globe

And U suck!! Use your head for something besides a door prop Chouji should have already known his partial multi-size tech by then. So he enlarges his hands and spins around to create a airflow. There's nothing special about that.

Wow your a moron aren't you. Even a mirror can make a shadow. A mirror reflects on one surface. Haku was using this to reflect his image. But they were outside fighting so the sunlight shining down on the outside of the mirrors would make a shadow on the ground. That's just common sense. Shika can use those shadows to entend the range of his own and make a even larger shadow to catch haku once he leaves the mirrors. If haku gets caught it's game over.

I said she could do it once shika has haku trapped. That's their usual strategy.

Haku has to come out of his mirrors to attack. Neji uses his heavenly spin to hit haku knocking him off his feet. He just has to stop haku from getting back to his mirror

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Zabuza and Haku are to underestimated..
And the other there abilities are overestimated..
Haku had 100's if not 1000's of opportunities to finish Sasuke and Naruto..
He was to gentle against them to kill them and since they are chakra beasts.. they could survive a while..
Would the other genins receive the same luck of Haku being gentle..

No idea if the Byakugan could see through the hidden mist..
But Kakashi's Sharingan couldn't see anything..
He couldn't sniff anything too since Zabuza erased his scent..
I'm sure akamaru couldn't sniff out Zabuza.
Remember that Kakashi needed to have his blood on Zabuza's blade so that his ninja hounds could sniff him out..
I don't think akamaru/kiba was better with smells then the ninja hounds where..
Is it possible to blow away the hidden mist jutsu/Can you look through the hidden mist jutsu with the Byakugan when the sharingan couldn't..
I think those questions are important in this fight

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I'm not underestimating anyone. Zabuza fought with everything he had and got beat. Then he fought a second time knowing kakashi's weakness and still got beat. Kakashi only got a few minor wounds so kakashi>zabuza. The other jounin have there own different skills. It's not unreasonable to assume they could fight on par with zabuza.

I agree with this. Sasuke and naruto were hyped up to be able to survive that fight. It was PnJ that made haku step out of his mirror to allow naruto to hit him at the end. If haku was still in the mirror he could have easily dodged that. But at the same time haku was hyped a little too. His base speed was made out to be super fast when he was really just above average. Sasuke proved he was faster then him and sasuke himself got shat on by lee (with weights on) later on. So speed wise sasuke>haku, Lee>>>haku, Lee without weights>>>>>haku.

Yeah haku held back. He could of finished that fight in a second if he wanted too, but he didn't. He was a merciful person who didn't like to kill. Why would he treat any other konoha team different then team 7? So if he was the same way with the other teams then they have a chance to win. If he got serious then they would all be fucked (team 7 included).

Byakugan can see through solid objects for miles so why wouldn't it see through fog.
Sharingan isn't designed to see through objects like byakugan is. Even so kakashi could see well enough to copy zabuza's water clone technique.
Kiba/akamaru might not be able to track by scent, but shino can still track with bugs. Zabuza can't erase his chakra now can he.
I don't see why a simple mist can't be blown away. It isn't hard. A small amount of wind is all it takes. I don't mean the whole bridge though. I just meant clear the air around them so they can see an attack coming.

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I can see your point.
I've done some research, and it's effective against sharingan..
But the Byakugan can see through it..
Strange idea to think that wind could blow away all the mist but it's a good possibility..
So I'll give team Azuma a point for that too.
Haku got serious against Naruto and Sasuke, but when he did it was to late.
Sasuke got hit, but Naruto whent fox cloak and finished him.
Ino would useless, but Shika might get him with his Shadow possesion,, that's their only chance.
No idea what Choji could do.. except making whirlwinds..

Team Kurenai is a hard on..
Who would fight Haku?
We haven't seen kurenai doing anything but genjutsu either so no idea what she could do..
Shino and Hinata are able to track Zabuza in the mist..
if bugs are locked on, it's over..


So,,

What about Itachi & Kisame (MS & Kisame when he fought Bee ) vs. Naruto and Sasuke ( SM & MS )

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Itachi and Kisame win this, I like them better. That's my argument.
In any case this fight has too many possibilities to just predict it, Kisame can suck the chakra out of lightning shaped jutsus so Sasuke's chidori sword and needles are useless agaisnt Kisame, Kisame can summon a big amount of water, Itachi can create water clones with it, Sasuke and Naruto can create amateratsu/rasenshuriken combo and destroy a lot of space. But in any case Itachi can cancel amateratsu to save Kisame if he gets caught with it. Itachi's planning ability is the best among the four, that could play a part in the fight.

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sasuke now vs itachi healthy?
naruto vs itachi healthy?
jiraya vs itachi healthy?
all the batlle in an open field. eg konoha crater.
you can just list the winners in this three scenarios and why

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sasuke now vs itachi healthy? Itachi wins cos of shield and sword


naruto vs itachi healthy? Itachi wins cos genjutsu and susaano and can control Kyuubi

jiraya vs itachi healthy? Itachi, Sword of totsuka

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Yeah I suppose that when we didn't know of Itachi and Jiraiya's full extent back in P2, when Kisame asked why him and Itachi ran away, it's because if they attempted to fight him, they'd die or at least take him down WHILE dying in the process eh?? Come on with this healthy itachi garbage.

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bracket 1 sasori vs kakuza

3rd hokage vs itachi

bracket 2 orchimaru vs deidara

2nd hokage vs kisame


co main event 4th hokage vs jiraiya

main event 1st hokage vs pain

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healthy itachi vs healthy 3rd? oh wait...THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD !

geez -.- this thread was once good, when vengeance and shrike and few others(not me though) frequently posted here...i liked to read their posts

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How about we ask the mods to delete this thread cause to much fail has been posted in here and its just sad how a once good thread turned to shit so fast.

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But that's just your opinion not everyone's.

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First Fight: Kakuzu vs Killer Bee

Second Fight: (healthy) Kimimaro vs Fourth Raikage

Fight location for both is where hidan & Kakuzu fought Kakashi & Team Asuma, and this isn't a 2 vs 2 fight just 1vs1

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Kakuzu has some nice ability's but I don't see him winning because the move that would help vs the tails mode, his stone skin jutsu(whatever it's called), is trumped by bee's lighting. Killer bee wins this bout in my opinion by his overwhelming amounts of chakra and his lighting.

The second fight i see going to the Raikage. His lighting chakra should give him the ability to pierce Kimaro bone armor as that's what lighting is known for. Raikage lighting armor should also provide him with a solid defense as chidori could just barely pierce it and also make's him extremely hard to catch do to the insane speed he gets. I give this bout to the Raikage.

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