Sensei-Q

Can this old man use Shinra Tensei? For real, the only other person I've seen floating was Deva Pain. And that wasn't even for longer than 3sec. Tsuchi Kage can probably reflect all kinds of stuff. This is just speculation based on his floating.

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Gakure

This old man has battled Madara b4 so he knows alot abt the SG and their techs. But that shd be enough to take sasuke head on. But am giving sasuke the better advantage cos he's got long range tech in susano and amaterasu which we havent seen tsuchi used

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Sensei-Q

The long range weapon of Susano`o is a big advantage. How can this be achieved?? The moment you get MS you start thinking like a bowman? WTF! The bow is a big advantage. It shouldn't be so easy to get like that. In theory, one could get a bow, a sealing sword, and 2 side arm guns in a back holster. And 4 wings on the back if you're taking your time thinking. Imagination is haxxed. Yin is haxxed.

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-SassyLady-

Okay this suffering of waiting for another vs fight is killing me so let's pick a new one shall we?

How about Pain vs Madara?

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Sensei-Q

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Your question is too general. If by "Pain" you mean one of the six bodies, then no. They all fail individually against most opponents. If you mean Nagato on his own;

He would slaughter the swirl mask Tobi. Can't say the same about the new and improved Shenanigan Tobi though. Prime Madara would defeat Nagato with some damage taken.

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ninjalostboy95

Sassy came back <3 I say Pain because he would mop the floor with Madara if he's only intangible for 5 minutes.

Vengeance

Since Konan actually came close to killing Madara for obvious reasons the 6 Paths of Pain would dominate Madara in battle. I don't think this is even up for debate...

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Gakure

Warping is the only thing we have seen madara do offensively + genjutsu on konan.

There are six bodies of pain so genjutsu is out of the matter. And since madara has to be solid to warp, one path will just be made a trap for him.

But the tables will turn if Madara could find the nagato with his GPS. He can then warp him and it is over.

Over all a draw

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superninja

Tobi vs 6 Peins

Imo it's 50 - 50 chances for either Tobi or Pein to win. Tobi is much faster than Pein is and he transports stuff into his dimension faster than Pein attacks imo. Konan was using constant explosions for 5 min to keep Tobi from warping away and imo Pein wouldn't reproduce that lvl of constant attacks. On the other hand Pein has 6 bodies and when Tobi attacks one body, the other 5 have an opening to strike him.

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Vengeance

Madara needs to maintain a physical form in order to warp anything away while Pain has 6 bodies. If Madara even attempts to create a vortex on one path another Path could simply attack him. Take that into account with the premise that Madara can only maintain an incorporeal form for 5 minutes & it's pretty much clear what will happen if they fought. Basically Madara will run around for 5 minutes, be forced into a physical form, get knocked by Pain causing him to use Izunagi, & basically run around somewhere before he goes blind.

Pain wins this 10-0

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superninja

I know, but Madara needs less than a second to warp something (he warped the explosion) so he might attack faster than Pein can react if you know what I mean. It would depend on how Peins are distributed through the area and what attack would Pein use to outspeed Tobi's warp? (Tobi warps behind one Pein body and Pein sees that since he has an all around vision, but Pein won't react in time).

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Sensei-Q

Masked man's victory is not assured, as the 6 people are all 1 being with a shared field of vision and can take him out easily. Madara's left eye would have to be used immediately. And that would be his last chance to escape death before leaving the scene like a coward.

@superninja: Shinra Tensei > anything similar to Kamui.

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Vengeance

No I don't. Deva Path can toss Madara like a rag doll the moment Madara tries to warp anything making Madara loss sight of his target. Meaning his warp would miss. Demon Path can shoot off a ton of projectiles at Madara if Madara tries to attack or warp anything. Hungrey Ghost can eat chakra which should nullify Madara's incorporeal form.

How about a barrage of summons attacking in every direction while Demon Blast the area with missiles & laser beams?

& Madara does what exactly? Madara can't attack unless he's in a physical form. So what if Madara takes one body the moment he tries that another body would simply kill him. That's the point you seem to fail at understanding.

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AOTKorby

The "faster than Pain can react" argument would work if Madara could outspeed Pain's perception. Madara is not like Minato or Naruto(Sage Mode did it in 430) in this respect. He needs the T/S tech to outspeed the vision of the Rinnegan. The very same technique that makes him vulnerable. In other words, there is no way that he can "dupe" Pain without getting owned. Madara doesn't have the means to overcome Pain's shared vision and as a result, there is no opening for him to do anything.

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ninjalostboy95

You know Madara can only be intangible for five minutes. There's another disadvantage. Pain would destroy Madara.