blake

what r u talking about, im sure gai and kakashi are fast in water too, as well as the first and second hokage from what i remember. it doesnt even matter even more.

Tsukuyomi

no the question is what are you talking about., thats a very nice assumption but no proof to back it up.,really cause i never saw the first and second fight on water or is that one of your mistakes again.makes no sense at all.

katonha

All the Akatsuki members we have seen fight, fought at least once before showing thier true talents and skills. I agree that he probably only will do Suiton jutsus, but if that is all, that will kind of dissappoint me considering he is an Akatsuki and Itachi's partner.

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Tsukuyomi

really itachi disagrees highley he fought 3 times opps 4 times without showing any sots of his true abilities.. thx you lost when you admitted that., all sasori uses is pupets all deidara used was bombs once again you fail to realize that if it works it doesn't matter what you do.

katonha

The failing thing you say is not needed. I didn't lose when i said that Kisame probably only cando Suiton jutsus because there are all sorts of suiton jutsus that he did show and possibly didn't. Sasori and Deidara used smaller types and weaker types of their jutsus before they brought out the bigger and stronger bombs and Puppets, it could be the same with Kisame's Suiton, weaker before stronger.

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Tsukuyomi

and yet you have nothing on itachi.

blake

ok yeah i was wrong there about the hokages. i was looking at the anime and u cant really trust it

katonha

In Itachi's first fight of the series, yeah he used the MS, but did he use Ameterasu or even the possible Susanoo(probably has or probably doesn't). The fact is that Itachi only used his Genjutsu release againist Kurenai, a clone and exploding clone, a suiton jutsu, and Tsukuyomi in his first fight. After that fight we saw more of him and his jutsus againist Jiraiya's toad mouth jutsu and in part 2. He had showed more after his first fight like all the other Akatsuki members we have seen fight. There is your Itachi proof.

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Tsukuyomi

and yet you fail that is not him at 100% and we have yet to see what he can do face it kisame has nothig more then what mikey posted.

katonha

I never said that he fought at 100%. I just said that Itachi, like every member of Akatsuki that we have seen fight so far, showed little in their first fight and then more afterward. Whether it is 100% or not. You are assuming just like you assume that there is no possibility that Kisame could have more.

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eaterpie

Kisame has to be more powerful than he let on to be
He is one of the seven swordsman
He hasn't died yet and if he were that weak Itachi would have offed him early
as far as Itachi goes no knows what he can truly do with them eyes but my opion is that he is getting progressively weaker

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Tsukuyomi

so was zabuza that didn't help him much.

katonha

We didn't see a 30% Zabuza take on team Gai and force Gai to use 6 of his Gates though. But he was still sorta strong, just not againist Kakashi.

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Tsukuyomi

i agree 100% i am just showing him by being a swordsman thatmeans nothing.

katonha

Yeah, but as swordsman, they are obviously not equals in power. But, being a swordsman also putts them at a degree to be classified as strong or what not. Being a swordsman an an Akatsuki only refines his status as strong even more.

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