VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!] - Page 642

stubborn_d0nkey · 03-21-2011, 12:34 PM

^unless itachi used tsukuyomi to travel back in the past and give the past itachi ms before shisuis death

goldengod · 03-21-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_d0nkey

^unless itachi used tsukuyomi to travel back in the past and give the past itachi ms before shisuis death

It's the only logical theory

Amuro · 03-21-2011, 02:15 PM

Madara vs Goku...

Vengeance · 03-21-2011, 02:16 PM

Kakashi was 14 at the time of the Kyuubi attack which means he's had about one year of experience with the sharingan.

NeoKakarott023 · 03-21-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_d0nkey

^unless itachi used tsukuyomi to travel back in the past and give the past itachi ms before shisuis death

This is in jest correct, Tsukyomi is a genjutsu that warps the victims imagination, the user isn't actually doing any time space stuff. Right?

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Originally Posted by Amuro

Madara vs Goku...

Saiyans aren't discussed here, what would be the point? Son Goku at SS1 vs. Frieza is more than every Naruto character combined and doubled. He blew the little fuck and his jutsu, through the front part of our solar system into the sun. If you can name anybody that could withstand that in THIS manga, shoot away, otherwise try coming up with battles that are possible, and plausible to track, script, and or plan. Theres zero planning against ANY Saiyan, nothing in Naruto would even slow them down. Krillin would rape most of Konoha.

Amuro · 03-21-2011, 02:55 PM

plz madara can "phase" through attacks and suck you in his eye. Im not even trolling. IMHO whos going to hit him. He can stay intangable for minutes. I cant remember how many, No DBZ character would know.

I figured they werent discussed. I just thought it would be interesting a lil. Better than kakashi (random age) vs itachi (random age)

NeoKakarott023 · 03-21-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amuro

plz madara can "phase" through attacks and suck you in his eye. Im not even trolling. IMHO whos going to hit him. He can stay intangable for minutes. I cant remember how many, No DBZ character would know.

I figured they werent discussed. I just thought it would be interesting a lil. Better than kakashi (random age) vs itachi (random age)

Okay DBZ character destroys the Earth, gets in a spaceship from Capsule Corp, and go to another planet, like Namek, or something else. Where's all of this T/S warping gonna take Madara? Sorry as far as I know the shinobi in Naruto still need air, I've seen Goku running through space (faster than Madara, I'd add). Believe what you will, but the Kyuubi couldn't even bee Gohans pet back then, he woulda got raeped, the sheer destruction levels are obivously different, Saiyans overhwelmingly more than most manga characters created. DB & DBZ was part of the genesis of manga, therefore to actually try to surpass those guys would take an attempt by an manga artist, not many have attempted, people have acutally scaled back a lot, to make it more believable. That was one of the problems with Dragon ball, the power levels were so high, they ran out of planets to destroy, notice planet, not Chuunin Exams, be serious... Madara, roflmao.

Amuro · 03-21-2011, 03:21 PM

lol i see what your saying.

Dnt they mention something about Goku not being able to breathe in space? (on namek freezia vs goku.)

I see what your saying tho. I think on earth Goku would get sucked in the eye. After he misses his first punch.
Goku wouldnt destroy the earth. You know that..

ask me anything · 03-21-2011, 05:36 PM

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I think on earth Goku would get sucked in the eye. After he misses his first punch.

Apparently you've forgotten that Goku can use Instant Transmission to go anywhere he wants. He used it to go from the earth, to King Kai's planet, which is in otherworld. I believe otherworld is considered an alternate dimension (plane of existence, or whatever you want to call it). So yeah, Goku can dimensional shift his ass out of Madara's eye dimension thingy as much as he wants, and it uses almost no power to do so. What's Fagdara gonna do then?

superninja · 03-21-2011, 05:41 PM

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Madara vs Goku...

Madara can avoid dmg for 5 minutes and after that he would have to use Izanagi or teleport away. Goku's movement is much faster than Madara and he could probably constantly attack him for 5 minutes or more and win that way. However Goku might have pauses between his attacks wondering why he is not damaging Madara or using super powerful moves for nothing. If Madara can use his warping ability to transport Goku to black dimension, it would still make no difference since Goku can use instant transmition to teleport back. The only way I can think of for Madara to win is that Madara uses his warping jutsu to warp just a part of Goku's body and that way he breaks Goku in half.

Anyway I have a kewl vs:

Kakashi, Rock Lee, Chouji, Kiba and Akamaru, Juugo vs 6 paths of Pein

Kakashi and co have all the knowledge so they don't waste their precious specials. And the important thing - all of them (except for Kakashi) have power up modes. Rock Lee goes 5 gates, Chouji goes butterfly mode (gay), Kiba does fusion with Akamaru to transform into a giant two headed dog, Juugo goes CS2. How many Peins will they kill?

ask me anything · 03-21-2011, 06:10 PM

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Anyway I have a kewl vs:

Kakashi, Rock Lee, Chouji, Kiba and Akamaru, Juugo vs 6 paths of Pein

Kakashi and co have all the knowledge so they don't waste their precious specials. And the important thing - all of them (except for Kakashi) have power up modes. Rock Lee goes 5 gates, Chouji goes butterfly mode (gay), Kiba does fusion with Akamaru to transform into a giant two headed dog, Juugo goes CS2.

Pein wins this by a land slide. For one thing, you got to many physical powerhouses on the team and not enough specialists. All of those you mention besides kakashi depend on nothing more then physical attacks to take out opponents. This is dangerous since Deva could just use ST to blast everyone backwards in an instant. This might not knock then all out, but it would definitely hurt them. Kakashi and Choji's fight with Pein in the manga is proof of this.

The way all the Boss Frogs got pwned by ST is also proof that larger creatures are especially damaged by that technique. So if Kiba and Akamaru are fused together, they've get fucked over hardcore. Same thing applies for Choji if he's in giant mode.

Now lets give the guys the benefit of the doubt that they can survive the initial blast. You know the other Paths are going to already be in motion to deliver a follow up attack. Animal realms summons are way to much for Kiba&Akamaru to handle. I mean a 2 headed dog Vs. a 9 headed dog that can split apart, and attack in unison. C'mon, that too much for them to handle right there, even without any of the other half dozen Summons interfering.

Human path would be a problem for everybody, except kakashi. How would these guys punch or kick the guy without him touching them. Cause you know as soon as he touches them, they get their souls ripped out. Not to mention Human path was hyped up to be incredibly fast. Maybe not as fast as Lee at 5 gates, but fast enough that I doubt Lee would run circles around the guy.

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How many Peins will they kill?

Zero

If you had more variety in the team that would be different. Kakashi was the only guy worth a damn. Lee is ok, but Gai is better. Chouji, Kiba, and Juugo are just, LOL.

NeoKakarott023 · 03-21-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by superninja

Madara can avoid dmg for 5 minutes and after that he would have to use Izanagi or teleport away. Goku's movement is much faster than Madara and he could probably constantly attack him for 5 minutes or more and win that way. However Goku might have pauses between his attacks wondering why he is not damaging Madara or using super powerful moves for nothing. If Madara can use his warping ability to transport Goku to black dimension, it would still make no difference since Goku can use instant transmition to teleport back. The only way I can think of for Madara to win is that Madara uses his warping jutsu to warp just a part of Goku's body and that way he breaks Goku in half.

Anyway I have a kewl vs:

Kakashi, Rock Lee, Chouji, Kiba and Akamaru, Juugo vs 6 paths of Pein

Kakashi and co have all the knowledge so they don't waste their precious specials. And the important thing - all of them (except for Kakashi) have power up modes. Rock Lee goes 5 gates, Chouji goes butterfly mode (gay), Kiba does fusion with Akamaru to transform into a giant two headed dog, Juugo goes CS2. How many Peins will they kill?

I personally don't think that Madara could last 5 minutes with Goku, if anything I could see Vegeta jumping in and not even attempting but ending Madara for attempting to come against a Saiyan, he was just as prideful as Sasuke, maybe more.

For your other fight, the group would matter in a battle vs. 5 paths of Pein, God Mode wipes them all out with the jutsu that sucked up the Kyuubi at 8 tails, none of them are stopping that, not even Kamui from Kakashi.

superninja · 03-21-2011, 07:01 PM

Ok, but my idea was that Lee with 5 gates can blitz instantly some of the Peins, Kiba/Akamaru fusion does a whirlwind attack that probably can only be stopped with shinra tensei, CS 2 Juugo (imo) is also stronger than most Peins except for God realm because he can tank damage and create those air guns out of his flesh, Chouji on the pill can dish some damage (he could destroy big summons with his punches except for the dog that multiplies). The point is while all of them are dishing out the big attacks Kakashi goes behind for the silent kills.

Numinous · 03-21-2011, 07:16 PM

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Ok, but my idea was that Lee with 5 gates can blitz instantly some of the Peins

Except Deva Realm could be set on defense of the other paths, now it depends if 5-gates Lee has enough juice to surpass the first couple of Shinra Tensei.

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Kiba/Akamaru fusion does a whirlwind attack that probably can only be stopped with shinra tensei

Or with a resistant enough summon, like Ukon and Sakon did. And what does Pain have? Of course, Animal Path!

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CS 2 Juugo (imo) is also stronger than most Peins except for God realm because he can tank damage

Except he doesn't. Raikage sent him flying like a rubber ball with his ball.

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and create those air guns out of his flesh

And Preta Path would suck them right away.

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Chouji on the pill can dish some damage (he could destroy big summons with his punches except for the dog that multiplies).

And that exception is why Chouji would ultimately fail: he has to defeat Animal Path in order to get rid of the dog, but with Deva Realm on defense, he'd fall flat.

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The point is while all of them are dishing out the big attacks Kakashi goes behind for the silent kills.

And exactly how he'd "silent kill" the 3 paths I still didn't mention (Human, Asura and Naraka)? I guess he'd probably take care of Asura with some help, but the other 2 together are too dangerous for most shinobi.

AOTKorby · 03-21-2011, 07:49 PM

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are you claiming the manga doesnt state half a year after becoming a chuunin he had the mission that got him into anbu

I'm claiming that that translation is so bad that it manages to contradict the DB and fuck up Itachi's catchphrase so it has no goddamn business being used.

Oh hey, both of those conditions are true! So yeah, that translation can go suck a cock, it's wrong.

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Amuro Genin Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 189 Thanks: 44 Thanked 56 Times in 40 Posts	Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!] plz madara can "phase" through attacks and suck you in his eye. Im not even trolling. IMHO whos going to hit him. He can stay intangable for minutes. I cant remember how many, No DBZ character would know. I figured they werent discussed. I just thought it would be interesting a lil. Better than kakashi (random age) vs itachi (random age)

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Amuro Genin Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 189 Thanks: 44 Thanked 56 Times in 40 Posts	Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!] lol i see what your saying. Dnt they mention something about Goku not being able to breathe in space? (on namek freezia vs goku.) I see what your saying tho. I think on earth Goku would get sucked in the eye. After he misses his first punch. Goku wouldnt destroy the earth. You know that.. Last edited by Amuro; 03-21-2011 at 03:25 PM.

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superninja ANBU Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,841 Thanks: 190 Thanked 691 Times in 554 Posts	Re: VS Thread [With Manga Spoilers!] Ok, but my idea was that Lee with 5 gates can blitz instantly some of the Peins, Kiba/Akamaru fusion does a whirlwind attack that probably can only be stopped with shinra tensei, CS 2 Juugo (imo) is also stronger than most Peins except for God realm because he can tank damage and create those air guns out of his flesh, Chouji on the pill can dish some damage (he could destroy big summons with his punches except for the dog that multiplies). The point is while all of them are dishing out the big attacks Kakashi goes behind for the silent kills. __________________ The great off panel war has begun...also called the war of one panel because most fights started and ended in one panel. Also Kin and Gin as substitute for kyuubi chakra (the greatest amount of chakra in Naruto world) is something Kishi pulled out of his ass. I lost major respect. It would be like near the end of LOTR there happens to be another slightly weaker ring and Sauron is like "that will do". It kind of shits on everything established up to that point. It kind of insults my intelligence.

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