Konnaha_yellow_flash

Simply using a 5 element seal over narutos jink seal left him unable to access the kyuubis power and unbalanced his own chakra as well. With KB's Jink seal not even being as good as narutos, I think a single placement of the 5 element seal would be enough to stop KBs transformations since KB has shown no real skill in seals himself. So, breaking the seal Jman puts is very very unlikely.

And a KB can be in base mode or Beast mode. I don't think it matters when the seal is placed. It just becomes harder to place the seal when KBs already in beast mode due to its power.

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kael03

Except the 5 element seal was used by Orochimaru, not Jiraiya.

Dagoro

Why is this still going on ?

No amount of lulz seals and frogs will save Jiraya from an opponent who is faster than him, and can nuke shit at will.

Bijuu bomb ends this.

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Bijuu bomb, speed, intellect, and awesomeness end this. Old man doesn't stand a chance. SM takes time, frogs take time, barrier takes time, and finding out what kind of opponent KB is takes battle time he can't afford with him specifically.

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Vengeance

Ok I already said this but I'll repeat it. Naruto's seal is that of a Konoha jutsu just as 5 element seal is also a Konoha jutsu. However Kirabi is not from Konoha while his bijuu was sealed by Cloud ninja. Meaning they would have used an entirely different sealing method than the one used on Naruto. Without prior information on Kirabi's seal it's highly doubtful that Jiraiya would even be able to suppress Kirabi's chakra using that same seal. Jiraiya wouldn't actually be severing a chakra connection like Kabuto did to Naruto but rather would be interrupting the current seal since he has prior knowledge of how it works.

What are you even basing this information on?

Problem is 5 element seal is used specifically for Narutos type of seal. Had it had the ability to stop any Bijuu the other countries so called trumps would be completely useless against Konoha.

Huuu? How is Jiraiya going to actually place a so called seal to begin with when Sasuke who has a sharingan couldn't even keep up with Kirabi's base movements? Don't forget that Kirabi can basically go into any mode at any given time while Jiraiya takes a shit load of time to charge up. Given Jiraiya's obvious reputation he isn't someone Kirabi would simply underestimate.

Again huuu??? how is the seal even going to be placed & why do you even think such a thing would even work to begin with?

Jiraiya would have an almost impossible time placing it when Kirabi is in base form let alone actually using the Hachibi chakra which he does in pretty much every fight. Face facts Jiraiya is outclassed here.


Edit: I almost forgot about that keal however Jiraiya had clear knowledge of the seals that were placed on Naruto indicating that he would have potential to do it. Anyway my above points stand there's no real reason why that would actually work on Kirabi to begin with.

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kael03

As much as it pains me to say this, veng, but KYF is right about Bee's seal not being as good as Naruto's. Bee even said so before Naruto started his training to control the Kyuubi chakra.

Vengeance

My point still stands though Orochimaru used a 5 element seal to disrupt the chakra flow of a 4 element seal. Kirabi's seal however is completely different since it's an iron seal. It may not work as well when suppressing the chakra of the Hachibi however that doesn't change the fact that it's a completely different seal from the one Konoha uses.

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wait now you guys give Oro credit but not to J-man.. they both are Sennin and you have to take into consideration that J-man wasn't prepared for Naruto to go 4 tails and he would have held back in his suppression not wanting to injure his student and all. Now with Killer Bee ther is no such love there and he wouldn't hold back.. J-man has fought Oro Pain Hanzo and countless others I'm sure he could go toe to toe with Killer Bee

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Ummm yeah I actually said that J-Man could probably use that same seal. However what I'm saying is it wouldn't fucking work because Kirabi's seal is an iron seal while Naruto's is a 4 Element seal. 5 Element seal is specifically designed to manipulate the 4 Element Seal but that doesn't mean that same seal would work on a completely different one.

Let me dumb it down for anyone still confused. I have a key that works for one type of lock however that doesn't mean that same key would work for a different type of lock.

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It would if it were a master key.




















































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Lmao .

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Tmoore

not saying jman would win but ur forgetting swamp of the underworld which is almost instant that would give him enough time to go sage mode, his hair defense jutsu would help against taijutsu and the man is pretty skilled with rasengan jman only lost to pain cuz he was walking away thinkin he was dead and lost an arm in the process and even after that was able to buy time take out a path and get a message off

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As much as I like J-man, even I can't see him beating KillerBee. That's not to say it would be an easy fight though. J-man has a nice variety of jutsu, including frog stomach which even Itachi and Kisame couldn't escape without using Amaterasu. Plus J-man has rasengan for offense and his hair needle defense, so I'm going to say he could match KB up close at base. If KB goes tailed mode he has the advantage though. Even more so if he goes version 2.

Full Hachibi would rip open frog stomach jutsu like a wet paper bag, stomp over J-mans needle hair armor like a old pine-cone, and wouldn't even get a tickle from rasengan. Only if J-man has enough time to go SM (and that's a big IF) would he stand a chance. I could see his giant rasengan being a match for Bijuu bomb. The only problem is he can't throw it, so it would still blow up in his face anyway. His needle hair barrage might work, but KB will likely dodge most of them in human form, and won't be significantly damaged in Bijuu mode, doing basically nothing to him.

The only things that really works against KB are the toad oil since it makes the ground slippery, thus hampering his movements and making his sword combat impossible. Plus it can be lit on fire which Amaterasu has shown will work. In truth the sage toads will do most of the work against KB. Ma toads tongue can sniff out anybody and capture them with blazing speed and strength. Even Pain was all like "TOO FAST!!!", which is a significant speed feat. Pa toads tongue can slice them in half once they are captured. And lets not forget the frog song which is instawin if they can pull it off. LMAO, if KB got KO'd by a song that would so fucking ironic.


Bottom line KB can be beat. Not by J-man, but by his frog summons, which he most likely won't have time to summon before KB stomps the life out of him.

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Seals are seals. They are used as even or odd. Putting the odd over then even of narutos Jink seal completely screwed up the seal. However, putting and even over the even would only serve to strengthen the seal though. Either way Jman will be effecting KB's ability to use his bijuus power since KB has no real seal skills.

KB isn't that good..... Kisame stomped his ass and Kisame wasn;t even trying to kill him. Yet, kisame shit his pants and knew he couldn;t defeat Jman by his own admittance. (Itachis comment about not beating Jman though was clearly because he didn't want to fight his comrade which kisame wasn't).

Jman has too much for bee. Even if Bee goes tailed beast, Kage bushins would allow Jman time to get into SM and even use frog song.
Jman can summon KB to toad stomach...
Jman can leave KB stuck in a giant mud lake, easy for an attack.
ect ect....

Kb with his just 8 sword BS that only hit sasuke because was holding back while still injured, but still let himself get caught off balance. No matter of he could see the attack, he was off balance and couldn't manuever out of the way.
However though, Jman doesn't fight head on. He uses clones so close combat won't work on him.
I just don't see KB beating Jman with his limited Hulk smash tactics that failed against kisame. The guy who was pretty sure he could'nt beat Jman for a reason.

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Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA

Tmoore

like i posted earlier if kb goes hachibi jman would instant swamp of the underworld to stop him dead in his tracks leaving him open for a ultimate rasengan to the face

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